NGD 1972 Les Paul Deluxe

Smash88 · 01-20-2012, 02:42 PM

Things went well picked her up today. Gonna get the first shake-down through the stacks tonight. Check it out...

acstorfer · 01-20-2012, 02:52 PM

Beautiful guitar!!!

Are you sure it's a 72? Usually they have Gibson embossed pickups. Not always I'm guessing, but usually.

Sky · 01-20-2012, 02:57 PM

Sweet axe! Hope ya enjoy!

Smash88 · 01-20-2012, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by acstorfer

Beautiful guitar!!!

Are you sure it's a 72? Usually they have Gibson embossed pickups. Not always I'm guessing, but usually.

Thanks man! Pretty sure it is. The serial is in the right range and the pots are very early 72. But the pegs were changed to schallers, graph tech saddles put in and the pups seem very hot for minis, so its possible the pups are not original. I don't think all 72's came with embossed pups, but I'm sure someone here can shed some more light on the subject.

sbeng · 01-20-2012, 04:28 PM

Very nice - congrats.

acstorfer · 01-20-2012, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Smash88

Thanks man! Pretty sure it is. The serial is in the right range and the pots are very early 72. But the pegs were changed to schallers, graph tech saddles put in and the pups seem very hot for minis, so its possible the pups are not original. I don't think all 72's came with embossed pups, but I'm sure someone here can shed some more light on the subject.

Like I said, probably not all. It's just usual. Gorgeous guitar nonetheless.

HOT-BRIT · 01-20-2012, 06:27 PM

A true beauty!!!!
Congratulations!!!
Not all 72 had the embossed covers, but most did, post picture of underside of the pups and we can see if they are original.

kmrumedy · 01-21-2012, 05:52 AM

Awesome. I saw your other thread. I am glad the deal worked out. Congrats.

ed1996 · 01-21-2012, 05:56 AM

There just something about norlins that is so rock'n'roll. Congrats

HOT-BRIT · 01-21-2012, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ed1996

there just something about norlins that is so rock'n'roll. Congrats

yes we refer to it as mojo

Ascan · 01-21-2012, 06:40 AM

It's hard to date early 70s deluxes with any certainty. The serial number and the pot codes (provided pots are original) are two bits of evidence that can lead to one being fairly certain of the year. Posters above are correct, not all 72s came with the embossed pickups.

That aside, sweet guitar. Hope you enjoy her for many years to come!

ant_riv · 01-21-2012, 06:42 AM

Congratulations!
Very nice looking guitar and glad it worked out for you.

Looking forward to hearing how you like the sound of it.

I'm definitely not an expert, but if the pots are early '72, it's possible yours is pre-embossed covers. Changes didn't usually occur exactly when the calendar did.

ThinLizzy · 01-21-2012, 06:47 AM

Man, that is SWEET! A Deluxe is on my want list for sure. Congrats!

HOT-BRIT · 01-21-2012, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ascan

it's hard to date early 70s deluxes with any certainty. The serial number and the pot codes (provided pots are original) are two bits of evidence that can lead to one being fairly certain of the year. Posters above are correct, not all 72s came with the embossed pickups.

That aside, sweet guitar. Hope you enjoy her for many years to come!

the date on the pots is the date pots were manufactured and not the date the guitar was manufactured, there is a lag time, which is the difference between the time pots were manufactured and the time Gibson used them in a guitar, this lag time can be any were from two months to over a year, so the date on the pots can not be used to accurately date a Gibson guitar.

HOT-BRIT · 01-21-2012, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by batestamalik

Have a 1962 gibson les paul deluxe is it worth anything?

Laser pointer

they did not make them in 1962 so you can not have one.
troll alert!

Smash88 · 01-21-2012, 01:47 PM

Thanks for all the comments! Yeah she's got a ton of mojo, used her last night at practice, plays and sounds killer! Used a marshall bluesbreaker with a marshall 4X12, a cusack screamer and an old 70's morley wah-volume (yup the huge old chrome colored ones) and the tone sounded like a heavier version of Robbos sound from Live & Dangerous. I always thought Robbo used the black custom on that album but have heard that he used a deluxe on that too..? I haven't even so much as changed the strings. Will deff post some pics of the bottom of the pups when I change the strings. This ones deff a keeper!!!

Midnight Blues · 01-21-2012, 01:50 PM

Congrats Smash and HNGD!

Smash88 · 01-21-2012, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Midnight Blues

Congrats Smash and HNGD!

Thanks man

Csharp · 01-21-2012, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HOT-BRIT

... this lag time can be any were from two months to over a year, so the date on the pots can not be used to accurately date a Gibson guitar.

Really? I seriously doubt that it would ever take a year, or anything close to it.
By your dating methods, this '72 may have left the plant in early '73. BS

Pot codes are 1377211

thing · 01-22-2012, 05:43 AM

Man I wish my '75 was in that condition. Sweeeeet!

Ascan · 01-22-2012, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HOT-BRIT

the date on the pots is the date pots were manufactured and not the date the guitar was manufactured, there is a lag time, which is the difference between the time pots were manufactured and the time Gibson used them in a guitar, this lag time can be any were from two months to over a year, so the date on the pots can not be used to accurately date a Gibson guitar.

That's why I said it was one piece of evidence that could help date the guitar -- never said it was an absolute method. Believe I kicked off my post saying how hard they are to date....

cmh6122 · 01-22-2012, 10:30 AM

Hoorah, enjoy.

Zenzeypher · 01-22-2012, 10:33 AM

Pretty ****ing epic sweet guitar youve got there. HNGD.

HOT-BRIT · 01-22-2012, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csharp

really? I seriously doubt that it would ever take a year, or anything close to it.
By your dating methods, this '72 may have left the plant in early '73. Bs

pot codes are 1377211

the lag time can be any were from 2 months on the low side to over one year on the high side, it is not bs it is fact!

Csharp · 01-22-2012, 04:23 PM

Must be nice to be the only one with the 'facts'. How could you possibly know how many pots were ordered, held in inventory, then installed, or the time frame that it all happened in?

BuzzHaze · 01-22-2012, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Csharp

Must be nice to be the only one with the 'facts'. How could you possibly know how many pots were ordered, held in inventory, then installed, or the time frame that it all happened in?

Well, if you look at the pot codes in my 1980 Standard, they are made on the 27th week of 1979. The original pickups are dated May 1980. There you have it....10-11 months.

HotBrit has a big collection of gibsons and I've found him to be extremely accurate. There are some people you take with a grain, Hot Brit's not one of them when he's talking Gibson.

HOT-BRIT · 01-23-2012, 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Csharp

Must be nice to be the only one with the 'facts'. How could you possibly know how many pots were ordered, held in inventory, then installed, or the time frame that it all happened in?

just sharing with you from my experience, we are all here to share and learn from each other more about the Les Paul's that we love, I have owned a lot of Noirlin era Gibson guitars over the years, so have had the chance to notice some details and gather some knowledge about them, you can accept my comments or disregard them it is entirely up to you, I do not want to force any thing on you, but the information on dating by the pots and the lag time involved is based on fact.

Smash88 · 01-24-2012, 10:52 AM

First off wanna thank everyone for their comments and help. So here's the logic I used to date the guit: the serial is in the the 700000 range combined with the early 72 pot dates led me to believe the guit was a 72, which would make no difference to me if she were a 73.
Here's the update: I was put in touch with the previous owner (not the shop where I bought her) and asked about the pups. He told me that he has the original embossed pups and that he did not like the way they looked so he simply took them out and that he replaced them with early 70's minis (he claims to be the original owner). He is also willing to sell or trade the original pups to me. I luv the sound of the minis that are in her and prob would not change them unless the embossed blew them away,but I do want the originals just to have them. So what are they worth, is there anything I should be looking for? Thanks again....sorry for the long post!

HOT-BRIT · 01-24-2012, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smash88

first off wanna thank everyone for their comments and help. So here's the logic i used to date the guit: The serial is in the the 700000 range combined with the early 72 pot dates led me to believe the guit was a 72, which would make no difference to me if she were a 73.
Here's the update: I was put in touch with the previous owner (not the shop where i bought her) and asked about the pups. He told me that he has the original embossed pups and that he did not like the way they looked so he simply took them out and that he replaced them with early 70's minis (he claims to be the original owner). He is also willing to sell or trade the original pups to me. I luv the sound of the minis that are in her and prob would not change them unless the embossed blew them away,but i do want the originals just to have them. So what are they worth, is there anything i should be looking for? Thanks again....sorry for the long post!

some were around $500

Smash88 · 01-24-2012, 01:29 PM

That's gonna be tough right now. Maybe I can strike up a trade and put on my poker face. I also found these on gbase

1972 Gibson Mini Humbuckers Chrome > Pickups - Rivington Guitars | Gbase.com

Is there anything else different about these pups other than the cover?

01-20-2012, 02:52 PM	#2 (permalink)
acstorfer Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: San Antonio, Florida Posts: 8,989 Thanks: 158 Thanked 209 Times in 58 Posts	Re: NGD 1972 Les Paul Deluxe Beautiful guitar!!! Are you sure it's a 72? Usually they have Gibson embossed pickups. Not always I'm guessing, but usually. __________________ Give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and you just cost him a six pack a day!

01-20-2012, 02:57 PM	#3 (permalink)
Sky Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 4,979 Thanks: 6 Thanked 44 Times in 17 Posts	Re: NGD 1972 Les Paul Deluxe Sweet axe! Hope ya enjoy! HOT-BRIT and Smash88 like this.

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sbeng Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 144 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: NGD 1972 Les Paul Deluxe Very nice - congrats. HOT-BRIT likes this.

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HOT-BRIT V.I.P. Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Miami Beach Posts: 18,916 Thanks: 68 Thanked 280 Times in 52 Posts	Re: NGD 1972 Les Paul Deluxe A true beauty!!!! Congratulations!!! Not all 72 had the embossed covers, but most did, post picture of underside of the pups and we can see if they are original. BuzzHaze and Smash88 like this.

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01-21-2012, 06:40 AM	#11 (permalink)
Ascan Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 140 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: NGD 1972 Les Paul Deluxe It's hard to date early 70s deluxes with any certainty. The serial number and the pot codes (provided pots are original) are two bits of evidence that can lead to one being fairly certain of the year. Posters above are correct, not all 72s came with the embossed pickups. That aside, sweet guitar. Hope you enjoy her for many years to come! Smash88 likes this.

01-21-2012, 06:42 AM	#12 (permalink)
ant_riv Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 491 Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: NGD 1972 Les Paul Deluxe Congratulations! Very nice looking guitar and glad it worked out for you. Looking forward to hearing how you like the sound of it. I'm definitely not an expert, but if the pots are early '72, it's possible yours is pre-embossed covers. Changes didn't usually occur exactly when the calendar did. HOT-BRIT likes this.

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ThinLizzy Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Macomb, MI Posts: 308 Thanks: 10 Thanked 16 Times in 6 Posts	Re: NGD 1972 Les Paul Deluxe Man, that is SWEET! A Deluxe is on my want list for sure. Congrats! HOT-BRIT likes this.

01-21-2012, 01:47 PM	#16 (permalink)
Smash88 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: New York Posts: 415 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Re: NGD 1972 Les Paul Deluxe Thanks for all the comments! Yeah she's got a ton of mojo, used her last night at practice, plays and sounds killer! Used a marshall bluesbreaker with a marshall 4X12, a cusack screamer and an old 70's morley wah-volume (yup the huge old chrome colored ones) and the tone sounded like a heavier version of Robbos sound from Live & Dangerous. I always thought Robbo used the black custom on that album but have heard that he used a deluxe on that too..? I haven't even so much as changed the strings. Will deff post some pics of the bottom of the pups when I change the strings. This ones deff a keeper!!!

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Midnight Blues Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 5,978 Thanks: 201 Thanked 52 Times in 18 Posts	Re: NGD 1972 Les Paul Deluxe Congrats Smash and HNGD! __________________ *Midnight Blues*

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thing Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Sydney, Australia. Posts: 52 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	Re: NGD 1972 Les Paul Deluxe Man I wish my '75 was in that condition. Sweeeeet! HOT-BRIT likes this.

01-22-2012, 10:30 AM	#22 (permalink)
cmh6122 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Kansas Posts: 1,963 Thanks: 50 Thanked 9 Times in 4 Posts	Re: NGD 1972 Les Paul Deluxe Hoorah, enjoy.

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Zenzeypher Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Blighty. Posts: 1,577 Thanks: 29 Thanked 12 Times in 3 Posts	Re: NGD 1972 Les Paul Deluxe Pretty ****ing epic sweet guitar youve got there. HNGD. __________________ "If you get far enough away you'll be on your way back home." - Tom Waits

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Csharp Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: N.STL Co. Posts: 980 Thanks: 11 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Re: NGD 1972 Les Paul Deluxe Must be nice to be the only one with the 'facts'. How could you possibly know how many pots were ordered, held in inventory, then installed, or the time frame that it all happened in? HOT-BRIT likes this. __________________ Charlie (Luddite Standard) '74 LP Standard-tobacco burst, and 8 misc. lesser guitars "It's always cool to be quoted into somebodies signature" - brettk7

01-24-2012, 10:52 AM	#28 (permalink)
Smash88 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: New York Posts: 415 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Re: NGD 1972 Les Paul Deluxe - Update First off wanna thank everyone for their comments and help. So here's the logic I used to date the guit: the serial is in the the 700000 range combined with the early 72 pot dates led me to believe the guit was a 72, which would make no difference to me if she were a 73. Here's the update: I was put in touch with the previous owner (not the shop where I bought her) and asked about the pups. He told me that he has the original embossed pups and that he did not like the way they looked so he simply took them out and that he replaced them with early 70's minis (he claims to be the original owner). He is also willing to sell or trade the original pups to me. I luv the sound of the minis that are in her and prob would not change them unless the embossed blew them away,but I do want the originals just to have them. So what are they worth, is there anything I should be looking for? Thanks again....sorry for the long post! HOT-BRIT likes this.

01-24-2012, 01:29 PM	#30 (permalink)
Smash88 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: New York Posts: 415 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Re: NGD 1972 Les Paul Deluxe That's gonna be tough right now. Maybe I can strike up a trade and put on my poker face. I also found these on gbase 1972 Gibson Mini Humbuckers Chrome > Pickups - Rivington Guitars \| Gbase.com Is there anything else different about these pups other than the cover?

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