What we call it

acstorfer · 12-30-2011, 12:08 PM

I think much of the misconception that comes with Norlin era Les Pauls is what even the lovers of them call it.

Recently I have started calling them Norlin era Gibson Les Pauls. People kinda get the idea (or so I've noticed) that these guitars aren't Gibson. So often it kinda seems that people are under the misconception that Norlin is the brand name and not just the owner name. If that's the case, I never hear owners of more modern Les Pauls call their Les Pauls as Henry Les Pauls.

I know it's a little more work, but I'm thinking we should refer to our guitars as either Gibson Les Pauls or even more accurate Norlin era Gibson Les Pauls.

Gemm · 12-30-2011, 12:17 PM

I just call mine Gibson Les Pauls, because that's what they are.

River · 12-30-2011, 12:18 PM

Too many syllables.

Gemm · 12-30-2011, 12:23 PM

Remember it's 'THEM' who want to put our guitars in a different category, not us. It's 'their' problem.

acstorfer · 12-30-2011, 12:55 PM

I've actually seen on here people not knowing because it doesn't say Norlin on their guitars.

Thumpalumpacus · 12-30-2011, 12:59 PM

I don't care what anyone else thinks of my guitars. Mine get called "the Gibby", t"the Epi", "the Tak", and so on. The only people who care are in guitar forums, and their opinion is worth every penny I've paid for it.

HOT-BRIT · 12-30-2011, 01:08 PM

They are Gibson's end of story

cmh6122 · 12-30-2011, 01:21 PM

I never refer to my Les Paul as anything but Gibson. It says it right on the peghead.

acstorfer · 12-30-2011, 01:27 PM

Funny, I see almost daily someone calling Norlin era Les Pauls as Norlin LP's and/or Norlins.

72BlackBeauty · 12-30-2011, 01:35 PM

My girl is a 72 Gibson Les Paul custom,it is what it is

HarleyJohansson · 12-30-2011, 04:43 PM

(Newer) vintage Les Pauls.

End of.

The different eras are pretty made up and mean nothing. If I want a 50's guitar, I will ask for a 50's guitar, same for 60 or 70 or 80 or whatever...........

HarleyJohansson · 12-30-2011, 04:45 PM

And yes, this norlin sub-section on mylespaul is utterly stupid.

Archtop 13 · 12-30-2011, 04:47 PM

Only Geeks know what a Norlin is. Just call is a Les Paul (insert model name) & the year, if you must...

SteveGangi · 12-30-2011, 06:34 PM

I sometimes refer to mine as a Norlin, but only here, where people might know the difference (and it is just a matter of the "time frame" or "era" when it was made). It's no different from referring to a Fender as pre CBS, CBS, and post CBS or a Gretsch as pre Baldwin or Baldwin etc.

Thumpalumpacus · 12-30-2011, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarleyJohansson

And yes, this norlin sub-section on mylespaul is utterly stupid.

We're riding the back of the bus here, bub.

smorgdonkey · 12-30-2011, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gemm

I just call mine Gibson Les Pauls, because that's what they are.

Me too.

Jack's back · 12-30-2011, 07:10 PM

I voted NO. I am against lending even the slightest shred of legitimacy to the cork sniffers. My 71 Deluxe is a GIBSON Les Paul!

riffsmachine · 12-30-2011, 07:30 PM

I call them simply Year-model.(Gibson of course) From 52' to 8 o'clock in the morning current day.

Nobody at that times knew a chickenshit about 56',57',59'....

sbeng · 12-30-2011, 09:03 PM

My 73 was designed, built, and sold by the Gibson Guitar Corporation.

Leumas · 12-30-2011, 09:05 PM

I call mine John.

The Refugee · 12-30-2011, 10:30 PM

NELPoG

Norlin Era Les Paul of Gibson

Rolls off the tongue too.

Edit: Or just NELP for you lazy farks. One syllable.

Progrocker111 · 12-30-2011, 11:47 PM

Many Norlins still must be built by 50s workers who made the most favourite Gibsons.

rockstar232007 · 12-31-2011, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by River

Too many syllables.

Still not as many as "Pre-CBS Fender Stratocaster".

Anyway, a Gibson LP, is a Gibson LP, no matter when it was made. But, IMHO, there's nothing necessarily wrong with calling '70s-early '80s-era Gibson guitars "Norlin-era" guitars, because no matter what, guitars produced during those particular years are very different from the respective pre/post eras. Not that, that's a bad thing?

acstorfer · 12-31-2011, 01:14 AM

My point still is, we AREN'T referring to our guitars as Gibson here. People here say they call their guitars Gibsons, but it just isn't the case. This is why I am saying we call our guitars Gibson. If you want to stop saying Norlin, that is even better. Seriously, I think I can find a post from everyone here where they refer to their guitar as a Norlin, leaving Gibson out entirely.

rockstar232007 · 12-31-2011, 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acstorfer

My point still is, we AREN'T referring to our guitars as Gibson here. People here say they call their guitars Gibsons, but it just isn't the case. This is why I am saying we call our guitars Gibson. If you want to stop saying Norlin, that is even better. Seriously, I think I can find a post from everyone here where they refer to their guitar as a Norlin, leaving Gibson out entirely.

The main problem is not referring to them as "Norlins", but more-so all of the negativity surrounding that particular name/legacy.

dwagar · 12-31-2011, 01:24 AM

But really, how many people on here are confused that they aren't Gibsons?

I'm GLAD we have a Norlin section on here, I think it's the only one on the net. And I think this forum is helping to dispel the negative myths we've lived with for so long.

acstorfer · 12-31-2011, 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwagar

But really, how many people on here are confused that they aren't Gibsons?

I'm thinking quite a few. Hell, there is even a thread titled, Norlin Years vs. Gibson.

Jack's back · 12-31-2011, 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acstorfer

My point still is, we AREN'T referring to our guitars as Gibson here. Seriously, I think I can find a post from everyone here where they refer to their guitar as a Norlin, leaving Gibson out entirely.

That is true, with me anyway. I will endeavor to only call it Gibson from now on.

HarleyJohansson · 12-31-2011, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwagar

But really, how many people on here are confused that they aren't Gibsons?

I'm GLAD we have a Norlin section on here, I think it's the only one on the net. And I think this forum is helping to dispel the negative myths we've lived with for so long.

Yet I'd never heard of those myths before this particular forum... Every guitar shop, every vintage shop, every person I'd talk to, none of them have ever used this term. I've always had 1. Kalamazoo Gibbys 2. Nashville Gibbys ... You can call the Kalamazoo era as vintage, whatever, but it is the ERA for me, no matter if it's 1970's or 1960's... I wonder if in like 10 years time some of the Gibsons made now will be referred to as coming from the Baked Maple Era... or something useless like that.

riffsmachine · 12-31-2011, 07:51 AM

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acstorfer Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: San Antonio, Florida Posts: 8,912 Thanks: 157 Thanked 207 Times in 57 Posts	What we call it I think much of the misconception that comes with Norlin era Les Pauls is what even the lovers of them call it. Recently I have started calling them Norlin era Gibson Les Pauls. People kinda get the idea (or so I've noticed) that these guitars aren't Gibson. So often it kinda seems that people are under the misconception that Norlin is the brand name and not just the owner name. If that's the case, I never hear owners of more modern Les Pauls call their Les Pauls as Henry Les Pauls. I know it's a little more work, but I'm thinking we should refer to our guitars as either Gibson Les Pauls or even more accurate Norlin era Gibson Les Pauls. ant_riv, HOT-BRIT, scottyk and 1 others like this. __________________ Give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and you just cost him a six pack a day!

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acstorfer Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: San Antonio, Florida Posts: 8,912 Thanks: 157 Thanked 207 Times in 57 Posts	Re: What we call it I've actually seen on here people not knowing because it doesn't say Norlin on their guitars. HOT-BRIT likes this. __________________ Give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and you just cost him a six pack a day!

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Thumpalumpacus Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Hill Country Posts: 54,264 Thanks: 1,202 Thanked 687 Times in 79 Posts	Re: What we call it I don't care what anyone else thinks of my guitars. Mine get called "the Gibby", t"the Epi", "the Tak", and so on. The only people who care are in guitar forums, and their opinion is worth every penny I've paid for it. SteveGangi and b3john like this. __________________ _____________________________________________ My Soundcloud

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acstorfer Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: San Antonio, Florida Posts: 8,912 Thanks: 157 Thanked 207 Times in 57 Posts	Re: What we call it Funny, I see almost daily someone calling Norlin era Les Pauls as Norlin LP's and/or Norlins. HOT-BRIT likes this. __________________ Give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and you just cost him a six pack a day!

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HarleyJohansson Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: USA Posts: 281 Thanks: 7 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: What we call it And yes, this norlin sub-section on mylespaul is utterly stupid. Thumpalumpacus and Jack's back like this.

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Jack's back Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Pa, USA Posts: 234 Thanks: 4 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: What we call it I voted NO. I am against lending even the slightest shred of legitimacy to the cork sniffers. My 71 Deluxe is a GIBSON Les Paul! marantz1300 and Thumpalumpacus like this.

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The Refugee Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: NJ Posts: 7,539 Thanks: 131 Thanked 30 Times in 15 Posts	Re: What we call it NELPoG Norlin Era Les Paul of Gibson Rolls off the tongue too. Edit: Or just NELP for you lazy farks. One syllable. __________________ #ForNico

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acstorfer Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: San Antonio, Florida Posts: 8,912 Thanks: 157 Thanked 207 Times in 57 Posts	Re: What we call it My point still is, we AREN'T referring to our guitars as Gibson here. People here say they call their guitars Gibsons, but it just isn't the case. This is why I am saying we call our guitars Gibson. If you want to stop saying Norlin, that is even better. Seriously, I think I can find a post from everyone here where they refer to their guitar as a Norlin, leaving Gibson out entirely. rockstar232007 likes this. __________________ Give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and you just cost him a six pack a day!

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