good full hollowbodies that jazz and rock....gretsch or ?

st.bede · 09-19-2008, 12:46 AM

I played a Gretsch today and I started to think....hmmm do I need a full hollowbody?

I had a hollowbody for many years but, never really played it....it seemed to take alot of strength but not the (cheap 600$) gretsch I played...

I played an epi joepass about 6 months ago and was not happy....

people who know tell me all your secrets...

River · 09-19-2008, 12:47 AM

ES-335. 'nuff said.

overdriver · 09-19-2008, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by River

ES-335. 'nuff said.

Except its not a full hollow!

Blues Power · 09-19-2008, 12:23 PM

Hamer makes a few nice ones but theyll be more than a gibby

budjet level would be the Artcorts. they sound OK out of the box but with a pup and pot change theyll sound great

renin71 · 09-19-2008, 12:58 PM

es 175. had one it was great. Play it thru a fender tube amp and one is in heaven...

jo07 · 09-19-2008, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by river

es-335. 'nuff said.

+1

Mr. Fuzzy · 09-19-2008, 03:57 PM

They are not cheap but in the Hollower realm, Hamer Newports.
There are supports under the bridge but otherwise they are fully hollow.

I love mine. I got all 3 for only $300 more than I bought my Used R9 for.

River · 09-19-2008, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by overdriver

Except its not a full hollow!

I stand corrected. I was so pumped up because I just played one for the first time - a 9+ condition 60's model. It was sweet!

st.bede · 09-20-2008, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by River

I stand corrected. I was so pumped up because I just played one for the first time - a 9+ condition 60's model. It was sweet!

it is a great guitar and I might buy one....I share your enthusiasm

overdriver · 09-20-2008, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by River

I stand corrected. I was so pumped up because I just played one for the first time - a 9+ condition 60's model. It was sweet!

Yes they are wonderfull things , I like the Hammer things above , nice also , and these are a nice guitar Eastman Guitars the thinlines, they did make them with a full length block , now they are more of a full hollow thing with a block only under the bridge.

overdriver · 09-20-2008, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Fuzzy

They are not cheap but in the Hollower realm, Hamer Newports.
There are supports under the bridge but otherwise they are fully hollow.

I love mine. I got all 3 for only $300 more than I bought my Used R9 for.

Say ya know that custom burst looks outa place there , I can take it off your hands if you like ?!

monroe · 09-20-2008, 04:05 PM

ES-125 TCD. These can still be a great deal.

st.bede · 09-20-2008, 11:21 PM

I am interested in that es-125....How does it play

in the past the hollwbodies I have played or owned were not good for blues...I like a liter gaged string and abilty to bend notes....that is what made the gretsch so enjoyable because I could play nice "jazz" chords and then play a blues run...

monroe · 09-21-2008, 10:48 AM

My '61 (not pictured above) plays really good. I have 10-52's on it and it bends quite easily. 11's would still be OK. Mine has a Bigsby and an ABR-1 archtop bridge in place of the wooden bridge. George Thorogood plays 125's but he uses lots of overdrive.

overdriver · 09-21-2008, 01:30 PM

Full hollow for blues yes they work for the blues, T-bone as well as many others have done so. Ya must be doing something wrong

Ted does well with playing rock on his full hollow byrdland also.

rickym · 09-21-2008, 03:23 PM

Gibson Byrdland, ES-175

Epi Casino.

st.bede · 09-21-2008, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by overdriver

Ya must be doing something wrong

Ted does well with playing rock on his full hollow byrdland also.

my fingers are small and whimpy

....(also carpel tunnel issues) but, I keep coming back to that es335...it can cover so much ground...I would love to give both the PRS simi and full hollowbody a try (I played them both back in 1996 and I liked my stuff better at that time....) and I would really love to check out the hammer stuff

overdriver · 09-22-2008, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by st.bede

my fingers are small and whimpy

....(also carpel tunnel issues) but, I keep coming back to that es335...it can cover so much ground...I would love to give both the PRS simi and full hollowbody a try (I played them both back in 1996 and I liked my stuff better at that time....) and I would really love to check out the hammer stuff

carpal tunnel , I suffered with that for a couple of years , gave in and got them both operated on worked great , if you got it bad IMO go for the op. it will only get worse and permenant!

ES335 or equivilent IMO best jack of all trades guitar ever created

besides a tele

Those Eastman I am telling ya are great. Solid hand carved tops and backs , street price 1400. with case.

But so many guitars out there hard to pick just one EH!

Mr. Fuzzy · 09-22-2008, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by overdriver

Say ya know that custom burst looks outa place there , I can take it off your hands if you like ?!

A friend of mine already called dibbs if I ever decide to let it go.
But, I doubt I will any time soon. It is a fantastic instrument.

overdriver · 09-22-2008, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Fuzzy

A friend of mine already called dibbs if I ever decide to let it go.
But, I doubt I will any time soon. It is a fantastic instrument.

thanks for the reply: I was joking of course but it is a great guitar congrats. I didn't think you would be ever letting that go , I know I wouldn't. I almost got one myself a few years ago , but couldn't come up with the cash before it sold.

guitar_randy · 09-22-2008, 03:14 PM

Gibson 335's are nothing to sneeze at,but I think Gretsch own this category,and are true hollowbodies.They are some mighty fine guitars.White falcon,6120

NeoConMan · 09-22-2008, 03:37 PM

I own a 335, incredible guitar.
Gretsch makes some really nice hollow bodies, I've wanted a Tennessee Rose for years.
I almost bought one, but found a used Guild Starfire III. Look into them.
Around $1,000 in great condition. Get one made in Westerly RI if you can.
Better resale.

Stay away from the Chinese Gretsch stuff (Electromatics) and get the sorta real deal made in Japan.
They are extremely well-made, and the tone is one of a kind.

st.bede · 09-23-2008, 12:13 AM

thanks for hipping me to the eastman...

btw..I have come to the conclusion that I do not like the gretsch electromatic...I played it again through a couple more amps and it did not make the grade (for me at least)

st.bede · 09-23-2008, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by rickym

Epi Casino.

I gave the epi casino a run and I was impressed...

River · 09-23-2008, 11:44 PM

I played one tonight and I was likewise impressed. GOFERIT!

st.bede · 09-24-2008, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by River

I played one tonight and I was likewise impressed. GOFERIT!

well...I played the casino A/Bing it with a 335...still impressed...it just played very well for a 600$ guitar but, one thing that really bothered me was the notes on the casino were not as complex as I feel like they should be...which makes it not usable for critical things...

I want to believe that it is just due to electronics but, I am afraid to make that assumption....

I want to buy it but, it looks like I should get a casino elite (1400$)...or something simular...

blakem · 09-25-2008, 03:37 PM

Agile Cool Cat

ES350 · 09-29-2008, 06:42 PM

There are some Epi versions of full hollowbodies out there with some potential...the Blues Zephyr, etc. Kid Ramos used one after he sold his ES5...it sounded pretty good with some work put in it. Likewise, you can still find full-depth Kay, Silvertones, Harmonys, etc with cutaways that make a nice platform for a blues rig.
You did say hollowbody, right?

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st.bede V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Fresno Ca Posts: 3,427 Thanks: 81 Thanked 35 Times in 20 Posts	Re: good full hollowbodies that jazz and rock....gretsch or ? I am interested in that es-125....How does it play in the past the hollwbodies I have played or owned were not good for blues...I like a liter gaged string and abilty to bend notes....that is what made the gretsch so enjoyable because I could play nice "jazz" chords and then play a blues run... __________________ "to criticize without vision is to be complicitious with dominance" Carolyn Casey "Go easy and, if you can't go easy, go as easy as you can" Jennifer Stone.... (from KPFA Cover to Cover) the wings of inspiration come to each according to their own song-des sad but I have made an ass of myself lately....

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monroe Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,281 Thanks: 5 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: good full hollowbodies that jazz and rock....gretsch or ? My '61 (not pictured above) plays really good. I have 10-52's on it and it bends quite easily. 11's would still be OK. Mine has a Bigsby and an ABR-1 archtop bridge in place of the wooden bridge. George Thorogood plays 125's but he uses lots of overdrive. __________________ Green: the new Red

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st.bede V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Fresno Ca Posts: 3,427 Thanks: 81 Thanked 35 Times in 20 Posts	Re: good full hollowbodies that jazz and rock....gretsch or ? thanks for hipping me to the eastman... btw..I have come to the conclusion that I do not like the gretsch electromatic...I played it again through a couple more amps and it did not make the grade (for me at least) __________________ "to criticize without vision is to be complicitious with dominance" Carolyn Casey "Go easy and, if you can't go easy, go as easy as you can" Jennifer Stone.... (from KPFA Cover to Cover) the wings of inspiration come to each according to their own song-des sad but I have made an ass of myself lately....

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River Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Crestone, Colorado, USA Posts: 12,970 Thanks: 94 Thanked 134 Times in 20 Posts	Re: good full hollowbodies that jazz and rock....gretsch or ? I played one tonight and I was likewise impressed. GOFERIT! __________________ When you don't know where you're going, every road takes you there. And you can't make a wrong turn. Rory Gallagher is "The man who got me back into the blues." - Eric Clapton

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ES350 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 265 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: good full hollowbodies that jazz and rock....gretsch or ? There are some Epi versions of full hollowbodies out there with some potential...the Blues Zephyr, etc. Kid Ramos used one after he sold his ES5...it sounded pretty good with some work put in it. Likewise, you can still find full-depth Kay, Silvertones, Harmonys, etc with cutaways that make a nice platform for a blues rig. You did say hollowbody, right?

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