FS/FT Rare Edwards Navigator Les Paul Special

Frails · 12-01-2009, 04:45 PM

Edwards E-LS-90LT Les Paul Special in blonde (whitish) with Lollar P90 in bridge. Accepting all trade and cash offers. Comes with HSC. All that I see on the internet are the TV Yellow. So this may be a custom or perhaps Artist series because of this and the fact that the TRC is different. Still researching.

PINKBITS · 12-01-2009, 05:02 PM

Nice guitar mate. I'm confused though

As far as I know Edwards are Edwards

Navigators are Navigators.

Big difference between the two.

Frails · 12-01-2009, 05:09 PM

Hey Pinkbits. My understanding is that its a very fuzzy era, the early period. This guitar was purchased while the musician was in Japan. Some early Navigator's only had Edwards on the headstock before the Edwards brand actually took flight. This color is extremely rare. I couldn't even find ONE on the internet to compare to. I'm trying to gather more info now to add to the post. This guitar was acquired in a trade and I am a lefty. Otherwise it would never see the light of day in the Classifieds section.

Edit** This is NOT a Navigator as the title suggests. Sorry for the confusion.

PINKBITS · 12-01-2009, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frails

Hey Pinkbits. My understanding is that its a very fuzzy era, the early period. This guitar was purchased while the musician was in Japan. Some early Navigator's only had Edwards on the headstock before the Edwards brand actually took flight. This color is extremely rare. I couldn't even find ONE on the internet to compare to. I'm trying to gather more info now to add to the post. This guitar was acquired in a trade and I am a lefty. Otherwise it would never see the light of day in the Classifieds section.

Edit** Ok, I am gonna remove the Navigator claim until I can correctly prove it is or isn't. I'm reading something now that really has me guessing whether it is or not. Sorry for the confusion for now...

Certainly not trying to be a dick mate

. It's a lovely guitar either way.

As you would know a Navigator commands a much higher price tag than Edwards. I was just asking the question. Hopefully someone who know's much more about Edwards and Navigator guitars will chime in.

I had an Edwards 98lts a couple of years ago. Great guitars for sure.

I really like this one too. Good luck with the sale mate.

Frails · 12-01-2009, 06:26 PM

Its all good. I didn't take your comments that way at all. Hopefully someone has some more info.

hank · 12-01-2009, 06:35 PM

Edwards are Edwards and Navigators are Navigators. Parent company is ESP.

Nice stuff all around ... both. However, Edwards are NOT Navigators.

Nice Special though. How much?

Frails · 12-01-2009, 06:45 PM

Thanks Hank. It's a make offer of trade or cash situation. I'm a lefty so I can't play it. I traded an amp for her because I thought she has more value. The TRC is different than today's run of Edwards. And I'm finding some very early Nav's with Edwards headstocks....still researching.

Frails · 12-01-2009, 07:51 PM

Here's some good info on Early Edwards...

• View topic - Mystery of Early Edwards

Frails · 12-01-2009, 09:17 PM

Serial Number info
ED0633661
ED = Edwards Prefix
Two Digit Year = 2006???
Week of the Year = 33rd week or Mid of August
Day of the Week - Monday=1, Tuesday=2, Wednesday=3 etc. = Saturday (6)
Number off the line that day = 61st off the line

Minneapolis Slim · 12-01-2009, 09:23 PM

Dang I love that guitar. I don't have any lefty guitars though, being a northpaw myself

What other stuff are you interested in? I've got some nice speakers, cabs, pedals...

Frails · 12-01-2009, 09:24 PM

PM me with your goods please. I dont need guitars per se. So I'm open to offers.

tonebone · 12-02-2009, 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frails

Serial Number info
ED0633661
ED = Edwards Prefix
Two Digit Year = 2006???
Week of the Year = 33rd week or Mid of August
Day of the Week - Monday=1, Tuesday=2, Wednesday=3 etc. = Saturday (6)
Number off the line that day = 61st off the line

Maybe.

All the "insider" info I've seen sez, "don't put much stock in the serial #'s on Edwards."

I have a hunch some numbers are put on older guitars coming outa the Japanese finishing facility.

You can prob at least determine when some Ed's were let loose for general merchandise release.

This looks like a typical killer Edwards. What's it weigh? Resonate like a hummingbird?

Looks like "thin coat" finish. Must be a nice one.

Frails · 12-02-2009, 09:20 AM

Thanks Tonebone. You might be right as late last night I read something similar. I don't actually have it in my hands yet. I traded for it and it is enroute. Just trying to expedite the process since I can't play it (lefty). The previous owner describes it as very light and the best playing Special he's had the opp to play, for what it's worth. Certainly SOMEONE has so gear to trade for her? The color is unique as I've only found two others on the net, one on a French forum and another on YouTube. Here it is for reference. Not the best vid but it goes to WOW at 4:59...killer tone. He mentions putting in a Lollar P90 so hell, maybe this is the same one. Could just be coincidence. Replaced wiring could be the tell tale.

YouTube - Edwards Les Paul Special

SpinWheelz · 12-02-2009, 11:35 AM

Boy, I'd love to take this if I could. I missed out on a couple of TV yellow Gibson Les Paul DC with P90s in the $400 range, and this would be a great alternative! Problem is, the only currency I have is a righty Gibson Melody Maker in a similar color. *sigh*

twoofmany · 12-02-2009, 12:38 PM

Interested in a Fender "evil" twin(not the red knob, the pro-tube)?

Frails · 12-02-2009, 12:41 PM

No thank you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by twoofmany

Interested in a Fender "evil" twin(not the red knob, the pro-tube)?

joebonsai · 12-02-2009, 01:06 PM

Frails is absolute correct with the identification. Edwards started to date their guitar like this in 2004, before there are some handwritten pencil numbers inside the pickup cavity.
Nice guitar

Frails · 12-02-2009, 01:12 PM

How about it Joe? Take it off my hands so I can buy a lefty version? I never even considered a Special until I researched this one. I'm sold and will have one in the stables soon. Looking at a MIJ Tokai in fact.

wrxplayer · 12-02-2009, 03:59 PM

Email sent. Let me know if you don't get it. jimicoltrane@gmail.com

Frails · 12-03-2009, 12:38 AM

Got it thanks.

Frails · 12-03-2009, 03:29 PM

Bump, anyone?

thrashmetl · 12-03-2009, 07:00 PM

Hey, that's my video, I talk too much. I looked at my pictures of the guitar from before I sold it and apparently I never took one of the serial number. That could have have been mine.

If it's mine, both pickups are Lollar Standards and I redid the wiring with a kit from ACME Guitar Works.

Frails · 12-04-2009, 12:38 AM

Cool man! Thanks for posting.

Frails · 12-04-2009, 01:24 PM

Bump

Frails · 12-05-2009, 02:56 PM

Saturday bump

Frails · 12-06-2009, 09:06 PM

This git has been traded. No longer available.

12-01-2009, 04:45 PM	#1 (permalink)
Frails Bartlett Retrospec Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 2,660 Thanks: 43 Thanked 50 Times in 17 Posts Feedback Score: 19 reviews	FS/FT Rare Edwards Navigator Les Paul Special Edwards E-LS-90LT Les Paul Special in blonde (whitish) with Lollar P90 in bridge. Accepting all trade and cash offers. Comes with HSC. All that I see on the internet are the TV Yellow. So this may be a custom or perhaps Artist series because of this and the fact that the TRC is different. Still researching. __________________ Guitars: Gibson \| Fender Amplifiers: Hiwatt \| Orange Pick-ups: WB \| OTPG \| Slider \| EMG \| Fender CS Last edited by Frails; 12-01-2009 at 10:33 PM.

12-01-2009, 05:02 PM	#2 (permalink)
PINKBITS Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: From the Land Down Under Posts: 7,627 Thanks: 250 Thanked 366 Times in 63 Posts Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Re: FS/FT Rare Edwards Navigator Les Paul Special Nice guitar mate. I'm confused though As far as I know Edwards are Edwards Navigators are Navigators. Big difference between the two. __________________

12-01-2009, 05:09 PM	#3 (permalink)
Frails Bartlett Retrospec Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 2,660 Thanks: 43 Thanked 50 Times in 17 Posts Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Re: FS/FT Rare Edwards Navigator Les Paul Special Hey Pinkbits. My understanding is that its a very fuzzy era, the early period. This guitar was purchased while the musician was in Japan. Some early Navigator's only had Edwards on the headstock before the Edwards brand actually took flight. This color is extremely rare. I couldn't even find ONE on the internet to compare to. I'm trying to gather more info now to add to the post. This guitar was acquired in a trade and I am a lefty. Otherwise it would never see the light of day in the Classifieds section. Edit** This is NOT a Navigator as the title suggests. Sorry for the confusion. __________________ Guitars: Gibson \| Fender Amplifiers: Hiwatt \| Orange Pick-ups: WB \| OTPG \| Slider \| EMG \| Fender CS Last edited by Frails; 12-01-2009 at 10:34 PM.

12-01-2009, 06:26 PM	#5 (permalink)
Frails Bartlett Retrospec Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 2,660 Thanks: 43 Thanked 50 Times in 17 Posts Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Re: FS/FT Rare Edwards Navigator Les Paul Special Its all good. I didn't take your comments that way at all. Hopefully someone has some more info. __________________ Guitars: Gibson \| Fender Amplifiers: Hiwatt \| Orange Pick-ups: WB \| OTPG \| Slider \| EMG \| Fender CS

12-01-2009, 06:35 PM	#6 (permalink)
hank Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: East of Mecca, in the Land of Gibson Posts: 801 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Re: FS/FT Rare Edwards Navigator Les Paul Special Edwards are Edwards and Navigators are Navigators. Parent company is ESP. Nice stuff all around ... both. However, Edwards are NOT Navigators. Nice Special though. How much? __________________

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12-01-2009, 06:45 PM	#7 (permalink)
Frails Bartlett Retrospec Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 2,660 Thanks: 43 Thanked 50 Times in 17 Posts Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Re: FS/FT Rare Edwards Navigator Les Paul Special Thanks Hank. It's a make offer of trade or cash situation. I'm a lefty so I can't play it. I traded an amp for her because I thought she has more value. The TRC is different than today's run of Edwards. And I'm finding some very early Nav's with Edwards headstocks....still researching. __________________ Guitars: Gibson \| Fender Amplifiers: Hiwatt \| Orange Pick-ups: WB \| OTPG \| Slider \| EMG \| Fender CS

12-01-2009, 07:51 PM	#8 (permalink)
Frails Bartlett Retrospec Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 2,660 Thanks: 43 Thanked 50 Times in 17 Posts Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Re: FS/FT Rare Edwards Navigator Les Paul Special Here's some good info on Early Edwards... • View topic - Mystery of Early Edwards __________________ Guitars: Gibson \| Fender Amplifiers: Hiwatt \| Orange Pick-ups: WB \| OTPG \| Slider \| EMG \| Fender CS

12-01-2009, 09:17 PM	#9 (permalink)
Frails Bartlett Retrospec Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 2,660 Thanks: 43 Thanked 50 Times in 17 Posts Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Re: FS/FT Rare Edwards Navigator Les Paul Special Serial Number info ED0633661 ED = Edwards Prefix Two Digit Year = 2006??? Week of the Year = 33rd week or Mid of August Day of the Week - Monday=1, Tuesday=2, Wednesday=3 etc. = Saturday (6) Number off the line that day = 61st off the line __________________ Guitars: Gibson \| Fender Amplifiers: Hiwatt \| Orange Pick-ups: WB \| OTPG \| Slider \| EMG \| Fender CS Last edited by Frails; 12-01-2009 at 10:34 PM.

12-01-2009, 09:23 PM	#10 (permalink)
Minneapolis Slim Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 133 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Re: FS/FT Rare Edwards Navigator Les Paul Special Dang I love that guitar. I don't have any lefty guitars though, being a northpaw myself What other stuff are you interested in? I've got some nice speakers, cabs, pedals...

12-01-2009, 09:24 PM	#11 (permalink)
Frails Bartlett Retrospec Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 2,660 Thanks: 43 Thanked 50 Times in 17 Posts Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Re: FS/FT Rare Edwards Navigator Les Paul Special PM me with your goods please. I dont need guitars per se. So I'm open to offers. __________________ Guitars: Gibson \| Fender Amplifiers: Hiwatt \| Orange Pick-ups: WB \| OTPG \| Slider \| EMG \| Fender CS

12-02-2009, 11:35 AM	#14 (permalink)
SpinWheelz Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,879 Thanks: 15 Thanked 65 Times in 28 Posts Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Re: FS/FT Rare Edwards Navigator Les Paul Special Boy, I'd love to take this if I could. I missed out on a couple of TV yellow Gibson Les Paul DC with P90s in the $400 range, and this would be a great alternative! Problem is, the only currency I have is a righty Gibson Melody Maker in a similar color. sigh

12-02-2009, 12:38 PM	#15 (permalink)
twoofmany Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: basements and garages Posts: 117 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Re: FS/FT Rare Edwards Navigator Les Paul Special Interested in a Fender "evil" twin(not the red knob, the pro-tube)?

12-02-2009, 01:06 PM	#17 (permalink)
joebonsai Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Duesseldorf/Germany Posts: 1,634 Thanks: 226 Thanked 164 Times in 41 Posts Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Re: FS/FT Rare Edwards Navigator Les Paul Special Frails is absolute correct with the identification. Edwards started to date their guitar like this in 2004, before there are some handwritten pencil numbers inside the pickup cavity. Nice guitar

12-02-2009, 01:12 PM	#18 (permalink)
Frails Bartlett Retrospec Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 2,660 Thanks: 43 Thanked 50 Times in 17 Posts Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Re: FS/FT Rare Edwards Navigator Les Paul Special How about it Joe? Take it off my hands so I can buy a lefty version? I never even considered a Special until I researched this one. I'm sold and will have one in the stables soon. Looking at a MIJ Tokai in fact. __________________ Guitars: Gibson \| Fender Amplifiers: Hiwatt \| Orange Pick-ups: WB \| OTPG \| Slider \| EMG \| Fender CS

12-02-2009, 03:59 PM	#19 (permalink)
wrxplayer Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 327 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Re: FS/FT Rare Edwards Navigator Les Paul Special Email sent. Let me know if you don't get it. jimicoltrane@gmail.com

12-03-2009, 12:38 AM	#20 (permalink)
Frails Bartlett Retrospec Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 2,660 Thanks: 43 Thanked 50 Times in 17 Posts Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Re: FS/FT Rare Edwards Navigator Les Paul Special Got it thanks. __________________ Guitars: Gibson \| Fender Amplifiers: Hiwatt \| Orange Pick-ups: WB \| OTPG \| Slider \| EMG \| Fender CS

12-03-2009, 03:29 PM	#21 (permalink)
Frails Bartlett Retrospec Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 2,660 Thanks: 43 Thanked 50 Times in 17 Posts Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Re: FS/FT Rare Edwards Navigator Les Paul Special Bump, anyone? __________________ Guitars: Gibson \| Fender Amplifiers: Hiwatt \| Orange Pick-ups: WB \| OTPG \| Slider \| EMG \| Fender CS

12-03-2009, 07:00 PM	#22 (permalink)
thrashmetl Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 94 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 4 Posts Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Re: FS/FT Rare Edwards Navigator Les Paul Special Hey, that's my video, I talk too much. I looked at my pictures of the guitar from before I sold it and apparently I never took one of the serial number. That could have have been mine. If it's mine, both pickups are Lollar Standards and I redid the wiring with a kit from ACME Guitar Works.

12-04-2009, 12:38 AM	#23 (permalink)
Frails Bartlett Retrospec Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 2,660 Thanks: 43 Thanked 50 Times in 17 Posts Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Re: FS/FT Rare Edwards Navigator Les Paul Special Cool man! Thanks for posting. __________________ Guitars: Gibson \| Fender Amplifiers: Hiwatt \| Orange Pick-ups: WB \| OTPG \| Slider \| EMG \| Fender CS

12-04-2009, 01:24 PM	#24 (permalink)
Frails Bartlett Retrospec Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 2,660 Thanks: 43 Thanked 50 Times in 17 Posts Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Re: FS/FT Rare Edwards Navigator Les Paul Special Bump __________________ Guitars: Gibson \| Fender Amplifiers: Hiwatt \| Orange Pick-ups: WB \| OTPG \| Slider \| EMG \| Fender CS

12-05-2009, 02:56 PM	#25 (permalink)
Frails Bartlett Retrospec Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 2,660 Thanks: 43 Thanked 50 Times in 17 Posts Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Re: FS/FT Rare Edwards Navigator Les Paul Special Saturday bump __________________ Guitars: Gibson \| Fender Amplifiers: Hiwatt \| Orange Pick-ups: WB \| OTPG \| Slider \| EMG \| Fender CS

12-06-2009, 09:06 PM	#26 (permalink)
Frails Bartlett Retrospec Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 2,660 Thanks: 43 Thanked 50 Times in 17 Posts Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Re: FS/FT Rare Edwards Navigator Les Paul Special Traded This git has been traded. No longer available. __________________ Guitars: Gibson \| Fender Amplifiers: Hiwatt \| Orange Pick-ups: WB \| OTPG \| Slider \| EMG \| Fender CS Last edited by Frails; 12-07-2009 at 01:49 PM.

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