build #3 56 Goldtop - Page 3

monsterwalley · 06-20-2010, 11:54 PM

Thanks guys! As sick as this is going to sound...... It was kinda fun

I also know that next time I drill an input jack hole too big, I will be able to fix
it even better.

beuford23 · 06-21-2010, 01:20 AM

My grandfather taught me that if you make a mistake then make sure the "fix" looks like it was an intentional part of the design: aesthetics or function. Either way, I think it turned out great.

gtr-tek · 06-21-2010, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by monsterwalley

Thanks. Where are you located in Kansas?

About 65 miles west of KC. The storms have been moving around a lot!

Nice save on the jack hole!

Pennstate913 · 08-17-2010, 10:57 AM

So are there any update pics, or have you finished this awesome project?

SG Lou · 08-17-2010, 11:10 AM

Damn, Nice save on the jack hole resize !

Now i just hope my "patch" job comes out just as well. Only problem is I won't have a jack plate to cover my screw up !

Can you see the screw up in the cut away?
Yup, I forgot that the binding channel get cut AFTER the top is contoured !

Thank god it dawned on me before i did the entire cutaway

monsterwalley · 08-17-2010, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pennstate913

So are there any update pics, or have you finished this awesome project?

I've gotten a little further. I've gotten the neck roughed out, the inlays in the braz and am finishing up the binding. On this one I am going after the "refretted" look, so I'll do the frets over the binding.

I also got commissioned to build a guitar for a friends daughters. So unfortunately mine will go on the back burner for now. It would be nice to be able to spray both at the same time. We'll see.

monsterwalley · 08-17-2010, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SG Lou

Damn, Nice save on the jack hole resize !

Now i just hope my "patch" job comes out just as well. Only problem is I won't have a jack plate to cover my screw up !

Can you see the screw up in the cut away?
Yup, I forgot that the binding channel get cut AFTER the top is contoured !

Thank god it dawned on me before i did the entire cutaway

Thanks! Complacency after a couple successful builds is trying to get me around every corner

And when I do get some time to work on a guitar, I have to try and keep myself from racing through procedures.

Good thing you caught the binding route before you got all the way through,
shouldn't be quite as bad. I'm sure you'll sneak out of it successfully

I have followed your sg builds with great envy, I would love to build one for myself someday. It's on the list, ha-ha........ thanks for checking the thread out.

RAHAZ · 09-01-2010, 12:01 PM

Any update to this Goldtop?

SG Lou · 09-01-2010, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monsterwalley

Here are a couple of pictures of where I am at currently....

First time attempting the angle route in the control cavity. Very frightening for me to pull the trigger on the router

I think it turned out ok for my
first time.

Looks great to me........whats the chances of sharing a drawing of that template you used ?

monsterwalley · 09-01-2010, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SG Lou

Looks great to me........whats the chances of sharing a drawing of that template you used ?

Sure, no problem. I'll get some photo's and post them tonight.

monsterwalley · 09-01-2010, 06:56 PM

Here you go Lou.....

These two pictures show the template I used. I started with around 7 degrees if I remember correctly. I ended up "tweaking it" and I'm not sure off hand
what I ended up with. I made it to use with a 3/4" bushing and 1/2" bit.

I drilled 1/16" holes where the pots go. Then used tooth picks to figure my depth and angle. I used the carpenters and regular pencil to help center up my jig and double check my cutting depth. I messed around lining it up and second guessing myself for a day before I got brave enough to pull the trigger on the router.

This is the bit I ended up using with a 3/4" bushing. Fletch helped me find it.

I think Preeb's thread pretty much sums it up though.

1959 Les Paul Build - Page 11 - Telecaster Guitar Forum

PoorMan · 09-04-2010, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monsterwalley

The top I got from Tom...

Tom sells plaintops?

Awesome build BTW. I subscribed.

Pennstate913 · 10-12-2010, 11:00 AM

any updates?

rockappalla · 10-12-2010, 05:35 PM

yeah updates?

monsterwalley · 10-12-2010, 07:08 PM

I wish I had some updates. Sorry I don't. It's on the back burner currently.
A friend of mine commissioned me, well, he's paying for the parts anyway, to build a guitar for his daughters. He had enough confidence in my other builds to go for it.

It is chambered with the normal Les Paul stuff. No aging though. Bright shiny nickel, and a nice cherry burst. Haven't come up with the name on the headstock yet, something that ties in with his girls. If he likes it,
hopefully I get a modest donation for the guitar building fund

topo1983 · 10-12-2010, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monsterwalley

This is the bit I ended up using with a 3/4" bushing. Fletch helped me find it.

great job

where I live is not got that type of router bits
you think if I use this bit?

would have to change the tip to make a neat cut

I think it can work

MRJ5 · 10-12-2010, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by topo1983

where I live is not got that type of router bits
you think if I use this bit?

would have to change the tip to make a neat cut

I think it can work

That will not work.

That is a drill bit and not made to cut with it's sides and will burn up quickly.

Additionally the router speed is much faster than a drill and the bit is not designed for that speed. If the bit is not EXACTLY the same size as the collet, it could fly out and cause injury.

Use the proper router bit please!

monsterwalley · 10-12-2010, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by topo1983

great job

where I live is not got that type of router bits
you think if I use this bit?

would have to change the tip to make a neat cut

I think it can work

Thanks for the compliment

As for the bit, as MRJ5 said, bad idea. Those twist drill bits don't have the tolerance for the rpm of a router. I'm afraid it would sail out and do some serious damage to your guitar and possibly even you. If it did stay in the collet, you probably wouldn't see what you are doing through all the smoldering wood.

ievans · 10-12-2010, 10:52 PM

Seriously.

Don't put anything but a router bit in a router! 20,000 RPMs are no joke.

I'm certain you can get a router bit in Argentina somewhere.

topo1983 · 10-13-2010, 02:34 PM

ok ok ok
after several attempts, managed to find a company that offers me this kind of tool for CNC

saying this

hardy to 25.000rpm

monsterwalley · 10-13-2010, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by topo1983

ok ok ok
after several attempts, managed to find a company that offers me this kind of tool for CNC

saying this

hardy to 25.000rpm

Much better (safer) idea.

dougk · 10-14-2010, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by topo1983

ok ok ok
after several attempts, managed to find a company that offers me this kind of tool for CNC

saying this

hardy to 25.000rpm

That will work, any ROUTER bit will work or even good aluminum end mill bits.

This is what I use: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...12433198791469 its sweeeeeeet

i am wet · 10-14-2010, 09:08 PM

looking good!

RAHAZ · 06-08-2011, 06:59 PM

Hey Monster... Did this build die?

monsterwalley · 06-08-2011, 07:05 PM

Nope, I just got done doing a build for a good friends daughters

Then had to finish up a few other wifely duties and am getting back on it.
I was going to revive this thread in the next week or two ironically

RAHAZ · 06-08-2011, 07:15 PM

Great googily moogily.

Lucky kid! I hope she plays the hell out of it.

fatdaddypreacher · 06-08-2011, 07:16 PM

what an excellant diversion. bet that's one happy little lady.
great job!

monsterwalley · 06-08-2011, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatdaddypreacher

what an excellant diversion. bet that's one happy little lady.
great job!

It was actually for both his daughters. I hope they start
arguing over it enough that I am forced to build another.

Reverend D · 06-08-2011, 10:45 PM

I know even though I love em I'd have to beat my brother senseless to gain control of that guitar... hehe... (He's 64 now, I think I can take him.. haha).

Regards,

Don

Drew224 · 06-09-2011, 01:45 AM

You're really good, man.

06-20-2010, 11:54 PM	#61 (permalink)
monsterwalley Bartlett Retrospec Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: kansas Posts: 1,820 Thanks: 73 Thanked 21 Times in 9 Posts	Re: build #3 56 Goldtop Thanks guys! As sick as this is going to sound...... It was kinda fun I also know that next time I drill an input jack hole too big, I will be able to fix it even better. __________________ ______________________________________________

06-21-2010, 01:20 AM	#62 (permalink)
beuford23 Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Middle Earth: AKA CFB Gagetown, Oromocto New Brunswick Posts: 877 Thanks: 15 Thanked 22 Times in 9 Posts	Re: build #3 56 Goldtop My grandfather taught me that if you make a mistake then make sure the "fix" looks like it was an intentional part of the design: aesthetics or function. Either way, I think it turned out great.

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Pennstate913 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 259 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: build #3 56 Goldtop So are there any update pics, or have you finished this awesome project?

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SG Lou Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Fords NJ Posts: 2,374 Thanks: 143 Thanked 311 Times in 41 Posts	Re: build #3 56 Goldtop Damn, Nice save on the jack hole resize ! Now i just hope my "patch" job comes out just as well. Only problem is I won't have a jack plate to cover my screw up ! Can you see the screw up in the cut away? Yup, I forgot that the binding channel get cut AFTER the top is contoured ! Thank god it dawned on me before i did the entire cutaway __________________ "It's all Iommi's fault. I blame him entirely" A.L.S. aka Lou Gehrig's disease Sux. Lets rid the world of this dreaded disease I CAN'T SEE OR POST PICS,PHOTOBUCKET IS BLOCKED ON WORK PC'S Moritz Guitars stmoritzguitars@hotmail.com Guitars: 64 SG Special Custom Shop Iommi Sig. SG Epi Iommi SG Jaydee "Old Boy" SG Custom Built "Old Boy" SG replica 63 RI Strat Amps: Laney GL50 head w/4x12 Laney Cab. Laney LC15R, Line6 Spyder

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09-01-2010, 06:56 PM	#71 (permalink)
monsterwalley Bartlett Retrospec Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: kansas Posts: 1,820 Thanks: 73 Thanked 21 Times in 9 Posts	Re: build #3 56 Goldtop Here you go Lou..... These two pictures show the template I used. I started with around 7 degrees if I remember correctly. I ended up "tweaking it" and I'm not sure off hand what I ended up with. I made it to use with a 3/4" bushing and 1/2" bit. I drilled 1/16" holes where the pots go. Then used tooth picks to figure my depth and angle. I used the carpenters and regular pencil to help center up my jig and double check my cutting depth. I messed around lining it up and second guessing myself for a day before I got brave enough to pull the trigger on the router. This is the bit I ended up using with a 3/4" bushing. Fletch helped me find it. I think Preeb's thread pretty much sums it up though. 1959 Les Paul Build - Page 11 - Telecaster Guitar Forum __________________ ______________________________________________

10-12-2010, 11:00 AM	#73 (permalink)
Pennstate913 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 259 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: build #3 56 Goldtop any updates?

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10-12-2010, 07:08 PM	#75 (permalink)
monsterwalley Bartlett Retrospec Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: kansas Posts: 1,820 Thanks: 73 Thanked 21 Times in 9 Posts	Re: build #3 56 Goldtop I wish I had some updates. Sorry I don't. It's on the back burner currently. A friend of mine commissioned me, well, he's paying for the parts anyway, to build a guitar for his daughters. He had enough confidence in my other builds to go for it. It is chambered with the normal Les Paul stuff. No aging though. Bright shiny nickel, and a nice cherry burst. Haven't come up with the name on the headstock yet, something that ties in with his girls. If he likes it, hopefully I get a modest donation for the guitar building fund __________________ ______________________________________________

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ievans Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Sucka Free, California Posts: 703 Thanks: 2 Thanked 11 Times in 4 Posts	Re: build #3 56 Goldtop Seriously. Don't put anything but a router bit in a router! 20,000 RPMs are no joke. I'm certain you can get a router bit in Argentina somewhere.

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topo1983 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Agentina Posts: 231 Thanks: 3 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: build #3 56 Goldtop ok ok ok after several attempts, managed to find a company that offers me this kind of tool for CNC saying this hardy to 25.000rpm

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06-08-2011, 06:59 PM	#84 (permalink)
RAHAZ Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Arizona Posts: 453 Thanks: 7 Thanked 8 Times in 5 Posts	Re: build #3 56 Goldtop Hey Monster... Did this build die? __________________ 1932 Gibson L-00 "Stacy" (Needs Restoration) 2003 Epiphone Les Paul Custom Elite "Elly" 2008 Epiphone J-200 "Noel" ???? Tacoma Acoustic-Electric "Ruby" Under Construction 2008 Hilleboe 5-String Bass "Amethyst" 2010 Hilleboe Mjöllnir 2010 Hilleboe Redwood Mjöllnir

06-08-2011, 07:05 PM	#85 (permalink)
monsterwalley Bartlett Retrospec Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: kansas Posts: 1,820 Thanks: 73 Thanked 21 Times in 9 Posts	Re: build #3 56 Goldtop Nope, I just got done doing a build for a good friends daughters Then had to finish up a few other wifely duties and am getting back on it. I was going to revive this thread in the next week or two ironically __________________ ______________________________________________

06-08-2011, 07:15 PM	#86 (permalink)
RAHAZ Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Arizona Posts: 453 Thanks: 7 Thanked 8 Times in 5 Posts	Re: build #3 56 Goldtop Great googily moogily. Lucky kid! I hope she plays the hell out of it. __________________ 1932 Gibson L-00 "Stacy" (Needs Restoration) 2003 Epiphone Les Paul Custom Elite "Elly" 2008 Epiphone J-200 "Noel" ???? Tacoma Acoustic-Electric "Ruby" Under Construction 2008 Hilleboe 5-String Bass "Amethyst" 2010 Hilleboe Mjöllnir 2010 Hilleboe Redwood Mjöllnir

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fatdaddypreacher V.I.P. Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: central louisiana Posts: 2,907 Thanks: 4 Thanked 24 Times in 8 Posts	Re: build #3 56 Goldtop what an excellant diversion. bet that's one happy little lady. great job!

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