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Unread 03-29-2010, 01:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Florentine Les Paul?

I asked this question in the Les Paul area but thought some on there might know as well. Is there anyone on here with a Gibson Les Paul Florentine? The semi-hollow body type with F-Holes. What I'm looking for is the older one made in the 90's like this one:


I am in need of some gut shots, specs and/or measurements if it is possible. I own an Epiphone version of this guitar and love it but I want to try my hand at building one out of real woods vs. plywood.

Specifics: Perimeter and back thickness, What does the bridge support area look like through the control cavity? What do the pickup and control cavities look like on the inside?

If I can get enough information I will create a PDF file to aid anyone else wanting to make one.
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Unread 03-29-2010, 02:16 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Florentine Les Paul?

It's not exactly specs of a Florentine BUT I hope it helps - John Catto made some plans based of the '59 Les Paul and they're available on the net:

http://www.mondocatto.pwp.blueyonder...-ver10full.pdf
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The measurements to go with the template

All measured with the usual digital caliper.

Body binding: height 5.96mm thickness ranged from 1.58mm to 1.91mm (for instance in the cutaway).

Neck binding: height 3.91mm thickness .84mm

Exposed body depth (from bottom of binding to back 42.9mm (1.688")

Headstock thickness top: 15.37mm bottom: (nearest nut) 15.58mm

Neck width: At nut 42.91mm At body Joint 54.82mm at fingerboard end 56.92mm

Gap between heel and guitar back 13.24mm (.52")
Depth of heel from bottom of binding (body top edge) to base 37.56mm (1.478")

One more for all those you wonder about toggle switch placement.
Level with 21st fret and 40.32mm from the edge.


ALSO

50's Humbucker Cavity depths

Bridge PU cavity legs: 1.384" deep
Bridge PU cavity depth: Angled from 1.015-.971(bridge side deepest)

Neck PU cavity legs: 1.463" deep
Neck PU cavity depth: 1.097"
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Re: Florentine Les Paul?

Thanks RAZ59.
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Re: Florentine Les Paul?

maybe its just the binding but what you posted seems too round to be florentine
this is more like what i think of a florentine


i do really like the guitr you posted though. love pauls with f holes. it seems natural
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Re: Florentine Les Paul?

I thought it was called an Elitist or something tho that effect. I am building a Spanish Cedar Cloud 9 LP with DC and thought since its already hollow on the inside to put f-holes on it. The f-holes look really nice on the LP, and its kind of a mesh of my favorite two guitars the ES-335 and the LP.
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Re: Florentine Les Paul?

Try Gibson "Bantam Elite"

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Re: Florentine Les Paul?

Or, try "Florentine"

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Re: Florentine Les Paul?

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i do really like the guitr you posted though. love pauls with f holes. it seems natural
I agree, I love the F-holes on a Les Paul.

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I am building a Spanish Cedar Cloud 9 LP with DC and thought since its already hollow on the inside to put f-holes on it. The f-holes look really nice on the LP, and its kind of a mesh of my favorite two guitars the ES-335 and the LP.
I say do it, that'd be sexy as hell.

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Or, try "Florentine"
Love it!
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Re: Florentine Les Paul?

I just purchased a 2001 custom shop florentine. is there any ref sites to determine color. Prod run etc. mine is a solid color no burst. Honeysuckle I believe. There is just no info I have found. Ser. Cs11204. called gibson direct
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Re: Florentine Les Paul?

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I want to try my hand at building one out of real woods vs. plywood.
I believe you mean solid wood--plywood is real wood--it's particle board & mdf that, while it contains what once was wood, that wouldn't be real wood--or at least pure wood.

But I get the point--sounds like a cool idea.
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I just purchased a 2001 custom shop florentine. is there any ref sites to determine color. Prod run etc. mine is a solid color no burst. Honeysuckle I believe. There is just no info I have found. Ser. Cs11204. called gibson direct
I do not know of any database short of emailing Gibson customer service.

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But I get the point--sounds like a cool idea.
Yeah. I've started on a Semi Hollow build inspired by mt old guitar but it isn't a Les Paul. You can find the link in my signature. It's one of three current builds I am working on.
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