Ex-Nihilo Build 3 -SGLP - Page 3

ex-nihilo · 09-08-2009, 05:33 PM

I began the carve by making some carve templates.

After routing, I did some sanding and achieved this:

Next, I will need to route the neck and pickup angles; and then, binding.

Sincerely, Scott

SG Lou · 09-08-2009, 05:48 PM

duff · 09-08-2009, 06:12 PM

looking fantastic ... 2 p90's in it ? Let me know how much !!

nuance97 · 09-08-2009, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ex-nihilo

I began the carve by making some carve templates.

Next, I will need to route the neck and pickup angles; and then, binding.

Sincerely, Scott

That is really sweet!!

Kate033 · 09-08-2009, 09:15 PM

Looks fantastic! Looking forward to seeing the next steps!

MRJ5 · 09-08-2009, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ex-nihilo

I began the carve by making some carve templates.

Great looking templates Scott. From the looks of it you used two different diameter router bits and took off a couple of mm per template pass to rough out the carve. Am I close?

That carve does closely resemble the LP curve. Nice job!

ex-nihilo · 09-09-2009, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by MRJ5

Great looking templates Scott. From the looks of it you used two different diameter router bits and took off a couple of mm per template pass to rough out the carve. Am I close?

That carve does closely resemble the LP curve. Nice job!

Actually, I just use the templates to draw the lines and then I free hand route them. I start from the inner body and work my way out at 1/16" steps.

I am pretty happy with the carve. I think on subsequent models I will make the back end wider (so the slope is more pronounced). It was a bit of an experiment to match the LP carve onto the SG body. A bit of tweaking is still needed.

Also, I need to sand some more recurve in places. But all in all, I am pretty pleased. It is very cool looking (at least I think so). It should be an awesome guitar when it's done.

Sincerely...

Greco · 09-09-2009, 08:10 AM

Looking very cool Scott!

meka · 09-09-2009, 08:11 AM

Looking at your work it looks so easy.

bfcg · 09-09-2009, 01:09 PM

Always fun to watch these builds.

ex-nihilo · 09-19-2009, 03:53 PM

After sanding the carve to where I liked it, I taped up the body to prepare it for the spray bomb. Black paint will indicate if there are any irregularities in a carve.

Here it is spray bombed. The carve looked really even, so I just had to sand off the black.

Almost done!

With the carve finished, I routed the neck angle plane. I made a new jig which is very accurate and easier to use than the hinge cage. However, as you will see, I still use the hinge jig to rout the pickup plane.

Here is a shot half way through routing the neck angle plane.

And the finished neck angle plane.

Then, I put the body in the hinge cage and routed the pickup plane. You can see that the pickup plane is the angle that exist between the end of the fret board and the bridge.

Perhaps on Monday I will be able to route and apply the binding and route the neck mortise.

Sincerely, Scott

SiriusAbbott · 09-19-2009, 04:10 PM

While I am not a huge fan of SGs,I think this is seriously good looking

MRJ · 09-19-2009, 05:57 PM

I agree completely! I love the carve your doing on this! You do great work, truly great work!

StrangerNY · 09-19-2009, 06:00 PM

Scott, your work just keeps getting better and better.

It makes me wish I had your abilities. That guitar is going to be a knockout, I just know it.

- D

Fletch · 09-19-2009, 07:52 PM

Scott, looks good.

fletch

monsterwalley · 09-19-2009, 08:13 PM

Seriously cool Scott!

How tall is your binding going to be?

ex-nihilo · 09-19-2009, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by monsterwalley

Seriously cool Scott!

How tall is your binding going to be?

The binding will be standard size. Since my mahogany is 1 3/8" rather than 1 3/4", I did not want the maple cap to overkill the tone of the mahogany body (especially with p-90s). So, I went with a 1/2" maple cap rather than a 5/8". However, to preserve the 59 LP carve, I needed to bring the edge down to just under 1/8". The binding will go down an 1/8" into the mahogany. This means there probably won't be much maple show in the horns, but that was the choice I thought best. All in all, I am really happy with the balance of all of the lines.

Sincerely, Scott

Mongrel · 09-20-2009, 12:25 AM

Very nice Scott, beautiful carve.

GreaseBox · 09-20-2009, 12:22 PM

This really looks great Scott!!!

BCRGreg · 09-20-2009, 12:26 PM

GREAT SCOTT, man!

Texas07R8 · 09-20-2009, 04:09 PM

Great thread as usual Scott, your documentary skills are as good as your building skills.

Going back to the beginning on this thread you show and talk about the maple bookmatched top. Can you tell me how you get the joined edges perfectly parallel for gluing? I don't have a jointer or shaper but have a router and working on getting a table for the router. My plan is to use a split fence on a table router to make my edges nice and straight for gluing. Just curious, I'm sure you're doing it yourself but didn't find it in the build thread.

billy · 09-20-2009, 08:40 PM

looks great man.

DGNRepair · 09-20-2009, 10:14 PM

I really dig your neck angle jig. Great build and I am enjoying watching the process.

Dan

pinefd · 09-20-2009, 10:20 PM

Again, WOW Scott! I'm lovin' how this thing's coming out!

Frank

ex-nihilo · 09-21-2009, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Texas07R8

Great thread as usual Scott, your documentary skills are as good as your building skills.

Going back to the beginning on this thread you show and talk about the maple bookmatched top. Can you tell me how you get the joined edges perfectly parallel for gluing? I don't have a jointer or shaper but have a router and working on getting a table for the router. My plan is to use a split fence on a table router to make my edges nice and straight for gluing. Just curious, I'm sure you're doing it yourself but didn't find it in the build thread.

Thanks for the compliment!

To get the edges ready for joining book matched maple, a table saw with feather board works famously.

Sincerely, Scott

mattsblues · 09-21-2009, 03:01 PM

Wow, I love your work!

ex-nihilo · 09-21-2009, 08:55 PM

Today's update: Binding.

Sincerely, Scott

monsterwalley · 09-21-2009, 10:55 PM

Wow! that looks killer!

The pics with the binding and accessories did it for me. Amazing
Scott. You should be very happy with how it's turning out.

How bout a shot of the cutaway's?

iplaythisgame · 09-23-2009, 12:26 PM

I've gotta say, I wasn't a believer at first. I've never been a fan of the SG body shape. But what you have done has really put an elegant spin on that shape. I really like it. Do you know what color burst your going for yet?

SG Lou · 09-23-2009, 01:13 PM

That is going to be one SERIOUSLY looking AWESOME SG !

09-08-2009, 05:33 PM	#61 (permalink)
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ex-nihilo Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 677 Thanks: 3 Thanked 70 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Ex-Nihilo Build 3 -SGLP After sanding the carve to where I liked it, I taped up the body to prepare it for the spray bomb. Black paint will indicate if there are any irregularities in a carve. Here it is spray bombed. The carve looked really even, so I just had to sand off the black. Almost done! With the carve finished, I routed the neck angle plane. I made a new jig which is very accurate and easier to use than the hinge cage. However, as you will see, I still use the hinge jig to rout the pickup plane. Here is a shot half way through routing the neck angle plane. And the finished neck angle plane. Then, I put the body in the hinge cage and routed the pickup plane. You can see that the pickup plane is the angle that exist between the end of the fret board and the bridge. Perhaps on Monday I will be able to route and apply the binding and route the neck mortise. Sincerely, Scott

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MRJ Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: West End, NC Posts: 301 Thanks: 11 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Ex-Nihilo Build 3 -SGLP I agree completely! I love the carve your doing on this! You do great work, truly great work!

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Texas07R8 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 2,220 Thanks: 101 Thanked 70 Times in 16 Posts	Re: Ex-Nihilo Build 3 -SGLP Great thread as usual Scott, your documentary skills are as good as your building skills. Going back to the beginning on this thread you show and talk about the maple bookmatched top. Can you tell me how you get the joined edges perfectly parallel for gluing? I don't have a jointer or shaper but have a router and working on getting a table for the router. My plan is to use a split fence on a table router to make my edges nice and straight for gluing. Just curious, I'm sure you're doing it yourself but didn't find it in the build thread.

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