feasibility study=doubleneck firebird

SiriusAbbott · 04-13-2009, 11:37 PM

I really want a doubleneck,I also like Firebirds...
so,after seeing a Jackson doubleneck Firebird I spent a little time playing around in PaintShopPro and came up with this.....

is a neck-thru doubleneck truly a feasible project?
what about wood types? a desire to keep it "somewhat light" would seem logical

And what about the 12 string necks headstock?how to keep it in the Firebird "ballpark" instead of the usual open book headstock?
well,what do you think?

RjC Guitar · 04-14-2009, 12:24 AM

I think that's really cool looking and very "doable"!

I would make the 2 necks and the center thru piece all one piece and glue the "wings" on. Definitley Mahogany!!

Good work!!

alexn1018 · 04-14-2009, 12:31 AM

I can't say much about how feasible it is but I feel like its not too far fetched. The neck-thru adds a challenge but with the right amount of planning and designing why couldn't it be done? As far as the design of the guitar...I think it looks very cool, rivals the awesomeness of the 1275 in my opinion.

bfcg · 04-14-2009, 12:47 AM

Would be awsome. I would add a little more spread between the necks though, a little more "V" than what you have there. It's hard to play with your wrist bent so sharply, especially a 12 string.

GreaseBox · 07-26-2009, 06:31 PM

Dude, wow,

!!!

You must build this! Hey, I will look for a pic of an example, but do you remember the Jackson King V double neck??? On the 12 string, it had 6 tuners behind the bridge. Then the headstock could stay the same!

SiriusAbbott · 07-26-2009, 06:34 PM

I got a set of prints for an ES-1275 as a basis to sort the logistical side of the build out,though I was still thinking both necks should be "neck through" as the original 'birds were.....

dennistruckdriver · 07-26-2009, 06:50 PM

It's a shame that 1275 is already taken as a name; that thing would weight 1275 pounds!

SiriusAbbott · 07-26-2009, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dennistruckdriver

It's a shame that 1275 is already taken as a name; that thing would weight 1275 pounds!

ahhhhh,but thats what "chambering" is for!!!

dennistruckdriver · 07-26-2009, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SiriusAbbott

ahhhhh,but thats what "chambering" is for!!!

Gotcha....

GreaseBox · 07-26-2009, 07:00 PM

I can go with the neck through but I say don't try to do both out of one piece, too much to control, too much to risk. Just my opinion.

ojedad23 · 07-26-2009, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SiriusAbbott

I got a set of prints for an ES-1275 as a basis to sort the logistical side of the build out,though I was still thinking both necks should be "neck through" as the original 'birds were.....

hey can you please give a link to the es-1275 plan, I've always dreamed of owning a double neck,so it might just be my second build.

GreaseBox · 07-26-2009, 07:03 PM

Something like this ???

I'm just saying to keep the headstocks the same and the firebird shape!

SiriusAbbott · 07-26-2009, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreaseBox

I can go with the neck through but I say don't try to do both out of one piece, too much to control, too much to risk. Just my opinion.

I tend to agree with you there dude!!
I have had this blog on my favorites list for a while,the dude builds a hell of a bird.

I think the necks should be laminated like the original birds,and attached to a mahogany center block and wings.....I would do a 1/4" flamed or quilted maple cap over it but doubt I can find one that big

...but this is all still in the theory stage....big axe=big $$$ and that'll take a while

and,I am not so sure about a cutout in a bird body,maybe banjo tuners thru-body?

Oj,I didnt DL this,I bought this print on Amazon,PM me

ojedad23 · 07-26-2009, 07:09 PM

are those grovers on the bottom of that guitar?

GreaseBox · 07-26-2009, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ojedad23

are those grovers on the bottom of that guitar?

At the tail yes. Jackson and Dean King V double necks.

GreaseBox · 07-26-2009, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SiriusAbbott

I am not so sure about a cutout in a bird body,maybe banjo tuners thru-body?

Yeah, now that I take a second look at your pic, those would have to be some long strings to make it to the tail. Scratch that idea...

FF_Pedals · 07-26-2009, 08:22 PM

That looks so cool!

Are SG and firebird style bodies 2 piece? I was looking at some drawings and it seems like that's the only way to get the wire run route in there. If so, are the 'top' and back pieces the same thickness?

Nathan

landsharkey · 07-27-2009, 01:23 PM

Quote:

hey can you please give a link to the es-1275 plan

Full Scale Plans for the Gibson Eds1275 Double Neck Electric Guitar

J-Man123 · 07-27-2009, 01:31 PM

Cool design!

J-Man123

Loserface300 · 07-30-2009, 11:51 PM

.....just thinking........ wpuldnt th wood break maybe becuase it suppoting over 18 strings on one large peice of wood?

Sinmastah · 07-31-2009, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Loserface300

.....just thinking........ wpuldnt th wood break maybe becuase it suppoting over 18 strings on one large peice of wood?

Nah man, you would have to look at individual necks, not the piece of wood. I'm pretty sure one neck could support 18 strings too.

04-13-2009, 11:37 PM	#1 (permalink)
SiriusAbbott Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Livin on Tulsa time Posts: 1,011 Thanks: 36 Thanked 8 Times in 3 Posts	feasibility study=doubleneck firebird I really want a doubleneck,I also like Firebirds... so,after seeing a Jackson doubleneck Firebird I spent a little time playing around in PaintShopPro and came up with this..... is a neck-thru doubleneck truly a feasible project? what about wood types? a desire to keep it "somewhat light" would seem logical And what about the 12 string necks headstock?how to keep it in the Firebird "ballpark" instead of the usual open book headstock? well,what do you think? __________________ *holy crap...things are truly suck right now*

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RjC Guitar Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Minnesota, USA Posts: 68 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: feasibility study=doubleneck firebird I think that's really cool looking and very "doable"! I would make the 2 necks and the center thru piece all one piece and glue the "wings" on. Definitley Mahogany!! Good work!!

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alexn1018 Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 90 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: feasibility study=doubleneck firebird I can't say much about how feasible it is but I feel like its not too far fetched. The neck-thru adds a challenge but with the right amount of planning and designing why couldn't it be done? As far as the design of the guitar...I think it looks very cool, rivals the awesomeness of the 1275 in my opinion. __________________ myspace.com/kimmyandalex - check out my music

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bfcg Under shop arrest Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Mountains Posts: 2,036 Thanks: 4 Thanked 8 Times in 3 Posts	Re: feasibility study=doubleneck firebird Would be awsome. I would add a little more spread between the necks though, a little more "V" than what you have there. It's hard to play with your wrist bent so sharply, especially a 12 string.

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GreaseBox V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Home of the COLTS Posts: 2,550 Thanks: 19 Thanked 25 Times in 8 Posts	Re: feasibility study=doubleneck firebird Dude, wow, !!! You must build this! Hey, I will look for a pic of an example, but do you remember the Jackson King V double neck??? On the 12 string, it had 6 tuners behind the bridge. Then the headstock could stay the same! __________________ "...I've eaten the sun so my tongue has burned of the taste..."

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SiriusAbbott Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Livin on Tulsa time Posts: 1,011 Thanks: 36 Thanked 8 Times in 3 Posts	Re: feasibility study=doubleneck firebird I got a set of prints for an ES-1275 as a basis to sort the logistical side of the build out,though I was still thinking both necks should be "neck through" as the original 'birds were..... __________________ *holy crap...things are truly suck right now*

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GreaseBox V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Home of the COLTS Posts: 2,550 Thanks: 19 Thanked 25 Times in 8 Posts	Re: feasibility study=doubleneck firebird I can go with the neck through but I say don't try to do both out of one piece, too much to control, too much to risk. Just my opinion. __________________ "...I've eaten the sun so my tongue has burned of the taste..."

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GreaseBox V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Home of the COLTS Posts: 2,550 Thanks: 19 Thanked 25 Times in 8 Posts	Re: feasibility study=doubleneck firebird Something like this ??? I'm just saying to keep the headstocks the same and the firebird shape! __________________ "...I've eaten the sun so my tongue has burned of the taste..."

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ojedad23 the oj guy Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: in Mlp headquarters,drinking orange juice Posts: 5,432 Thanks: 23 Thanked 92 Times in 71 Posts	Re: feasibility study=doubleneck firebird are those grovers on the bottom of that guitar? __________________

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FF_Pedals Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 722 Thanks: 7 Thanked 7 Times in 4 Posts	Re: feasibility study=doubleneck firebird That looks so cool! Are SG and firebird style bodies 2 piece? I was looking at some drawings and it seems like that's the only way to get the wire run route in there. If so, are the 'top' and back pieces the same thickness? Nathan

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J-Man123 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: On my computer...where else? Posts: 1,926 Thanks: 181 Thanked 28 Times in 8 Posts	Re: feasibility study=doubleneck firebird Cool design! J-Man123 __________________ Do I listen to pop music because I'm miserable or am I miserable because listen to pop music?- John Cusak Long Live Rock!

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Loserface300 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 1,373 Thanks: 28 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: feasibility study=doubleneck firebird .....just thinking........ wpuldnt th wood break maybe becuase it suppoting over 18 strings on one large peice of wood? __________________

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