My Les Paul Forums
Homepage - Sponsors - Perks - Auctions - Advertise - Spy  

Go Back   My Les Paul Forums > The Les Paul > The Custom Shop > Luthier's Corner
2012 MyLesPaul Meet   LIKE MyLesPaul on Facebook   FOLLOW MyLesPaul on Twitter
  


Like Tree3Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-16-2009, 12:05 AM   #1 (permalink)
V.I.P. Member
 
Fletch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: NJ
Posts: 2,613
Thanks: 50
Thanked 108 Times in 16 Posts
Fletch's Six Les Paul Buildup

I hope nobody minds if I do my introduction here. I have lurked around here for a little while and at the other place too. I decided to register here, but the attitude is SUBSTANTIALLY better over here and everybody seems kool, especially in the luthier's corner.

I've been a player for about 25 years now and I've settled on a 71 deluxe gold-top bought from Guitar Center sometime in the 90's for $600 as the "go-to". Second to that is the 74(?) LPC that I have had since a teenager. I've got about a dozen or so other guitars that I've picked up over the years, probably like a lot of other guys on here.

About a year or so ago I picked up a copy of Beauty of the Burst. I had built a guitar as a teenager (with a butter knife!) and always wanted to do one again, naturally a les paul. Inspired by BOTB, I started on a mission to build an absolutely perfect 59 les paul standard.

After tons of planning and research, and purchasing wood and parts, I started cutting wood about 6 weeks ago with a router given to me from my mother-in-law and a bunch of Frued router bits from Sears that were on clearance. I will try to post some photos, right now I'm at about 75% complete but I think I'm doing okay so far.

Right now I'm at the top carve, and stopping the project so I can build a duplicator because once I get that right I aint doing that again! Also, it's cold now in NJ and I'm working in a small shed with a space heater. So since I'm busted waiting for linear bearings and warm weather I thought I would register and say hello.


Fletch
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Parts with BOTB.jpg (98.0 KB, 884 views)
Fletch is offline   Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Les Paul

Beitrag Sponsored Links

__________________
This advertising will not be shown in this way to registered members.
Register your free account today and become a member on My Les Paul Forums
   
Old 01-16-2009, 05:30 AM   #2 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Rhubarb Red's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Bushey, Hertfordshire, UK
Posts: 258
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
re: Fletch's Six Les Paul Buildup

Fletch - welcome to the forum.

If that's the start of your project, I'm impressed! Can't wait to track the guitar's progress.

I'm starting a build myself in the next few weeks and the questions I've posted - sometimes dumb, obvious ones - have always attracted courteous, helpful replies, which I think is a good reflection on the people who contribute to this site, especially here in Luthiers' Corner.

Good luck with the build!
Rhubarb Red is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2009, 07:13 AM   #3 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
sliding tom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Germany
Posts: 1,071
Thanks: 27
Thanked 171 Times in 18 Posts
re: Fletch's Six Les Paul Buildup

Welcome - looking forward to your reports!
sliding tom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2009, 07:40 AM   #4 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
voices's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 1,378
Thanks: 329
Thanked 145 Times in 27 Posts
re: Fletch's Six Les Paul Buildup

welcome Fletch! looking forward to watching your build.
voices is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2009, 08:35 AM   #5 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
69GTLP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: MPLS MN
Posts: 429
Thanks: 2
Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts
re: Fletch's Six Les Paul Buildup

WOW
Welcome
__________________
Chris
Tom Petty Junkie
69GTLP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2009, 06:50 PM   #6 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
rockappalla's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: ITALY
Posts: 423
Thanks: 4
Thanked 5 Times in 2 Posts
re: Fletch's Six Les Paul Buildup

Welcome Fletch! you'll find tons of useful info for your build here!
__________________
rockappalla is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2009, 08:25 PM   #7 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
decoy205's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: The land of concrete shoes
Posts: 6,067
Thanks: 374
Thanked 80 Times in 23 Posts
re: Fletch's Six Les Paul Buildup

WELCOME!
So far so good and remember we need lots and lots of PICS!!
__________________
decoy205 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2009, 08:38 PM   #8 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Vintage_Burster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Australia
Posts: 2,187
Thanks: 5
Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts
re: Fletch's Six Les Paul Buildup

Awesome! Are you using Brazilian Rosewood for the board then?
__________________
"Bursting with a Vintage 07 Standard!"

Vintage_Burster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2009, 09:09 PM   #9 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Lance_S's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: MidWest
Posts: 463
Thanks: 2
Thanked 43 Times in 12 Posts
re: Fletch's Six Les Paul Buildup

Fletch,

Welcome and good form with posting picks on your first post. Your avoidance of massive public humiliation was true genius!!!

You will find a good group of fun and excited enthusiasts here.

Best regards.
__________________
1983 Gibson Spotlight Special #145 of 211
Lance_S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2009, 10:15 PM   #10 (permalink)
V.I.P. Member
 
Fletch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: NJ
Posts: 2,613
Thanks: 50
Thanked 108 Times in 16 Posts
re: Fletch's Six Les Paul Buildup

neck joint, binding channel and cavities so far.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Binding channel.jpg (108.0 KB, 579 views)
File Type: jpg Neck joint 2.jpg (101.4 KB, 505 views)
File Type: jpg Neck joint 3.jpg (100.8 KB, 478 views)
File Type: jpg Original 59 back cover perfect fit.jpg (117.5 KB, 410 views)
File Type: jpg Proper switch cavity detail.jpg (113.8 KB, 392 views)
Fletch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2009, 10:18 PM   #11 (permalink)
V.I.P. Member
 
Fletch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: NJ
Posts: 2,613
Thanks: 50
Thanked 108 Times in 16 Posts
re: Fletch's Six Les Paul Buildup

wire route in body and jack hole...
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Control cavity showing wire channel.jpg (112.9 KB, 341 views)
File Type: jpg Jack hole.jpg (102.0 KB, 288 views)
Fletch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2009, 10:44 PM   #12 (permalink)
V.I.P. Member
 
Fletch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: NJ
Posts: 2,613
Thanks: 50
Thanked 108 Times in 16 Posts
re: Fletch's Six Les Paul Buildup

Here is where I'm at now, I did the carve by laying it out and doing the stair-steps, then with a pneumatic die grinder with 2" spiral lock sanding discs I smoothed it all out. I'm using pictures of Gold-tops for reference as they seem to reflect the light and show the shape much better in photos. It still has quite a ways to go.

Right now I could really use goocart's 3d top carve blank...
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Top carve 2.jpg (99.8 KB, 523 views)
File Type: jpg top carve 3.jpg (107.4 KB, 760 views)
Fletch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2009, 11:49 PM   #13 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Lance_S's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: MidWest
Posts: 463
Thanks: 2
Thanked 43 Times in 12 Posts
re: Fletch's Six Les Paul Buildup

The quilting looks HOT!!! Fantastic job.
__________________
1983 Gibson Spotlight Special #145 of 211
Lance_S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2009, 11:54 PM   #14 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Skynyrdpicker's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Montreal
Posts: 3,861
Thanks: 79
Thanked 24 Times in 12 Posts
re: Fletch's Six Les Paul Buildup

Welcome, and keep us posted on your build! I love watching these progress, and finally turn into amazing guitars!
Skynyrdpicker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2009, 10:24 AM   #15 (permalink)
V.I.P. Member
 
Fletch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: NJ
Posts: 2,613
Thanks: 50
Thanked 108 Times in 16 Posts
re: Fletch's Six Les Paul Buildup

Yeah, the top is pretty nice. Actually that is about $10 worth of wood. I bought a billet and a nice flamey pair of boards on ebay and those boards were a $9.95 buy-it-now that ended right after I won the boards I bought. At the last minute I decided to use them instead of the nice stuff since it was my first one if I wound up screwing up and throwing it away it wouldn't be a big deal.

There actually wasn't much flame on the boards but I was able to cut them to get what you see. There is a funny kink on the one side and it's a little bald in that spot but it's very authentic that way. I don't really care for perfectly book-matched tops with perfectly strait flame anyway, I don't want this mistaken for a new Gibson Historic or something.

Right now it's 12°C in NJ, probably colder in my workshop!!!
Fletch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2009, 10:32 AM   #16 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
The Thruth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,041
Thanks: 132
Thanked 29 Times in 3 Posts
Send a message via MSN to The Thruth
re: Fletch's Six Les Paul Buildup

nice build
The Thruth is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2009, 11:56 AM   #17 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
pedro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 105
Thanks: 7
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
re: Fletch's Six Les Paul Buildup

Welcome!
Great looking build you have going on there. Look forward to seeing more of it.
__________________
The Pedro
pedro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2009, 12:31 PM   #18 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
jco.1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: MA, USA
Posts: 1,348
Thanks: 48
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
re: Fletch's Six Les Paul Buildup

Nice work; I love these threads.
jco.1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2009, 02:17 PM   #19 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 440
Thanks: 0
Thanked 18 Times in 4 Posts
re: Fletch's Six Les Paul Buildup

I like the top.
IceGator8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-18-2009, 05:27 PM   #20 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
markophonic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Michigan
Posts: 301
Thanks: 10
Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post
re: Fletch's Six Les Paul Buildup

I like the top.

I prefer them mismatched.

Good Job!

markophonic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2009, 12:21 AM   #21 (permalink)
V.I.P. Member
 
Fletch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: NJ
Posts: 2,613
Thanks: 50
Thanked 108 Times in 16 Posts
re: Fletch's Six Les Paul Buildup

Heel and neck joint shots.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Heel 1.jpg (103.8 KB, 332 views)
File Type: jpg Heel 2.jpg (101.1 KB, 361 views)
File Type: jpg Neck joint 3.jpg (98.0 KB, 375 views)
Fletch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2009, 12:36 AM   #22 (permalink)
V.I.P. Member
 
Fletch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: NJ
Posts: 2,613
Thanks: 50
Thanked 108 Times in 16 Posts
re: Fletch's Six Les Paul Buildup

Pot and switch cavity shots. I worked very hard to get these correct, I think I did alright, even got the "bite" down pretty good... I have one more modification to the template for the pot cavity and it should be good to go for the next build.

What do you think?

fletch
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Cavity 4.jpg (96.5 KB, 522 views)
File Type: jpg Switch Cavity 1.jpg (96.7 KB, 308 views)
Fletch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2009, 07:39 AM   #23 (permalink)
Premium Member
 
Ole'Lefty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: davenport, iowa, USA
Posts: 3,198
Thanks: 81
Thanked 127 Times in 32 Posts
re: Fletch's Six Les Paul Buildup

Talent!!! I'm envious.ole'lefty
Ole'Lefty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2009, 07:58 AM   #24 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Mongrel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Melbourne FL
Posts: 637
Thanks: 15
Thanked 6 Times in 3 Posts
re: Fletch's Six Les Paul Buildup

Man, beautiful sork, I don't care how many build threads I see I am always amazed at the skill here, great job and welcome!
__________________
I feel more like I do now than I did awhile ago.


http://www.mongrelaudio.zoomshare.com/0.html


Purple burst "Trash Paul" (kit build) stock hardware.
Les Paul clone ground up build..UNDER CONSTRUCTION
Jackson Performer, stock w/Floyd rose.
"Mongrel" strat, Unknown Humbuckers, Floyd rose,
Aluminum treadplate "full body" pick guard powder coated black.
B.C. Rich Acoustic, black, lots of miles on this one!
Tiny little 15w marshall amp.
Mongrel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2009, 08:01 AM   #25 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 53
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
re: Fletch's Six Les Paul Buildup

Stunning, and a great shot of the top carve too!
t_hamill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2009, 04:27 PM   #26 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
guitarbob123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Birmingham. UK
Posts: 3,396
Thanks: 203
Thanked 17 Times in 8 Posts
re: Fletch's Six Les Paul Buildup

are you going to use a nylon 6/6 nut or a bone one (nylon would be correct)
also what pick-ups are you putting in.? it would be very interesting if you put pafs in your best one.

are the tailpiece posts and bridge posts in the right place. are they the right depth.
is the top carve right

it takes a hell of a lot of measurements to make a perfect one. you'll also need to get the finish mixture like the old one for it too age like the 59s.

you're doing amazing though and i wish i could do aswell as you are.
hoopefully one day i'll have the skills to do this.
__________________
Equipment:
2011 Gibson Les Paul Custom 68RI (Ebony)
2008 Epiphone G-400
Marshall JVM410h
Marshall JCM900 1960A Cab

Check out Brett at Eddie's Guitars if you're looking to buy! They're a great place and Brett is the best! PM him for some amazing deals, you'll be surprised!!!
guitarbob123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2009, 09:50 PM   #27 (permalink)
V.I.P. Member
 
Fletch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: NJ
Posts: 2,613
Thanks: 50
Thanked 108 Times in 16 Posts
re: Fletch's Six Les Paul Buildup

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nelson674 View Post
im also curious of this as well, its going to be the next step i take on my build. i saw somewhere in the forum that someone used a 1/2inch dome bit to route it out and then clean up the the part where the washer sits. is this how you did yours as well? is 1/2 inch the right size? it looks more like 3/4...

Frank and Nelson,

I appreciate the complements, thanks.

The truss rod nut route was started with a 1/2" round bit when I did the truss rod channel, on the router table. I traced where I wanted the route to be, and then set up a simple stop with a clamp and routed up to the line. Then I went to work with a set of these from AC Moore:

A.C. Moore - Carving Knife Set-10 Pieces

The carving knife set is cheap and comes with a variety of shapes. I used these to flatten the back and to continuously scrape the mahogany to the line. Some of the knives in the set are perfect for scraping under and behind the truss rod knub that sticks out.

At this point, I traced the truss rod shape onto the holly veneer, but only drilled a few holes slightly inside of the shape. Then I glued the holly onto the headstock. After it set I went back to work with the carving knives, carefully breaking through. Eventually I flattened the back of the glued mahogany and holly very nicely and fit the truss rod nut up.

The thing that really smoothed it all out and made it nice like you see is when I discovered that the smallest rubber sanding wheel for my Dremel was just the right size to fit into the route. I clamped the neck to the bench, put a fine sanding roll on the Dremel and very carefully worked it into the route strait in line with the truss rod. (Be careful!) If you slide the sanding roll a little off of the rubber (so the rod will be inside a little when you sand), you can go just a little deeper.

After I had most of it nice and smooth with the sanding roll and Dremel as far as I could go (you get stopped by the rod), I went back and did final clean up and contouring with the cheap carving knives. The whole time, I had a wrench in hand and made sure it was deep enough for the socket to go on the nut, and also was careful that the nut didn't stick up above the truss rod cover.

Hope I explained it will, basically it was just a lot of patience!

fletch
Fletch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2009, 10:01 PM   #28 (permalink)
V.I.P. Member
 
pinefd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 5,618
Thanks: 82
Thanked 380 Times in 38 Posts
re: Fletch's Six Les Paul Buildup

Thanks for the detailed explanation, fletch! And yes, you explained it quite well.

I'll have to try that route (pun intended) next time myself!


Frank
__________________
Check out some of my personal gear at: Historic Les Paul Database

And coming soon:



http://histrungguitars.com/
pinefd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2009, 10:08 PM   #29 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Nelson674's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: the great northwest
Posts: 200
Thanks: 11
Thanked 12 Times in 2 Posts
re: Fletch's Six Les Paul Buildup

great explanation, thanks for taking the time to write that out Fletch.

patience you say? ...test me


this is really turning out great, keep it up!
__________________
Learning to shrug is the beginning of wisdom.
Nelson674 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2009, 10:17 PM   #30 (permalink)
V.I.P. Member
 
Fletch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: NJ
Posts: 2,613
Thanks: 50
Thanked 108 Times in 16 Posts
re: Fletch's Six Les Paul Buildup

Quote:
Originally Posted by guitarbob123 View Post
are you going to use a nylon 6/6 nut or a bone one (nylon would be correct)
also what pick-ups are you putting in.? it would be very interesting if you put pafs in your best one.

are the tailpiece posts and bridge posts in the right place. are they the right depth.
is the top carve right

it takes a hell of a lot of measurements to make a perfect one. you'll also need to get the finish mixture like the old one for it too age like the 59s.

you're doing amazing though and i wish i could do aswell as you are.
hoopefully one day i'll have the skills to do this.
Guitarbob,

Yes, I have Nylon 6/6 for the nut. For pickups, I have two options in hand. First is a pair of 57 Classic +'s, and a set of new Dimarzios (air classic and classic PAF) that I got from GuitarHeaven's liquidation sale. But I also really would like to try a set of Sheds or OTPGs. Lately I have been thinking about building my own PAFs though... that would be an interesting project. I have wood for several guitars so I can try all combinations before I find some new hobby and move on (which is inevitable and my wife can't wait!)

The tailpiece and knobs are all in the correct locations and comply with the Catto plan. The carve looks good to me so far but still has some tuning to go. I stopped on the top to build a top carver so until I can make a blank from this top it won't go any further, that should be by Friday if all goes well.

The tailpiece and studs are Pigtail and are very nice. I have some okay ABR bridges with the correct script and everything but I don't think they are real... might go with the Pigtail ABR as well. I am having a hard time finding 6-32 thumbwheels so if someone has a set or two...

Thanks for the complements, it really keeps me motivated.

fletch
Fletch is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:01 AM.


Find us on Facebook!   Follow us on Twitter!

Our Network: SG Guitar Forum | Marshall Amp Forum | Music Gear Forum | 7 String Guitar Forum | Martin Guitar Forum

MyLesPaul proudly supports St. Jude Children's Research Hospital

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.