A BW Build

BWGuitars · 02-12-2013, 11:47 PM

I've been waiting to start on this project for quite a while now, so I'm pretty giddy about getting the ball rolling finally! I thought, why not do a build thread for it, especially since its a probably a lot more in line with the "norm" around here (compared to the shreddy McShreddersons that I've been building non-stop for the past year).

It's a semi-hollow guitar that I'm building for my little brother and a new design that I've been working on for a while now. So I'm excited on a bunch of levels to get it started!

Anywho, here's some pictures of today's progress:

The guide outlines for the inner carve machined into the back of the top:

The rough top carve:

Inner carve done and oiled:

The body chambers routed out:

And then painted black:

The F-hole, in the rough:

And all clamped up:

dougk · 02-13-2013, 12:08 AM

Sweet! Looking forward to seeing this one, I always enjoy your McShreddersons too

Roman · 02-13-2013, 01:52 AM

I like your work. Excellent designs, elegantly executed.

Knarbens · 02-13-2013, 02:35 AM

Really looking forward to this ... really nice top carve.
Btw ... I was browsing your page and came accross this:

Is this the bodyshape of this particular build also? I really like it!
I prefer it over the blackmachine style guitars (even though they look great).

confused · 02-13-2013, 02:47 AM

I always love your designs, I'm sure this one will be the same!

BWGuitars · 02-13-2013, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by dougk

Sweet! Looking forward to seeing this one, I always enjoy your McShreddersons too

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Originally Posted by Roman

I like your work. Excellent designs, elegantly executed.

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Originally Posted by confused

I always love your designs, I'm sure this one will be the same!

Thanks guys! Now I'm really going to have to deliver the goods

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Originally Posted by Knarbens

Really looking forward to this ... really nice top carve.
Btw ... I was browsing your page and came accross this:

Is this the bodyshape of this particular build also? I really like it!
I prefer it over the blackmachine style guitars (even though they look great).

That's actually the favorite of my designs, too, but this is a new one. Its kinda like a combination of a LP double cut and a PRS. I wanted to design something a bit more traditional. No offset lower bout and no pointy business going on.

Here's a frontal to show off the overall outline:

And don't get me wrong, I love building those super strats, but I'm booked for the rest of the year doing commissioned DII builds, so this is a nice breath of fresh air

j.six · 02-13-2013, 09:53 AM

I love this. One of these days, I'm gonna hop in the car and head down there.

Kammo1 · 02-13-2013, 12:24 PM

Nice guitar bro and yes I do like the design alot, it's nice to see you step away from the BM style stuff

decoy205 · 02-13-2013, 12:51 PM

I really enjoy your work man. Very cool stuff!

BWGuitars · 02-13-2013, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by j.six

I love this. One of these days, I'm gonna hop in the car and head down there.

Anytime dude! Shop's always open (but not necessarily always tidy...

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kammo1

Nice guitar bro and yes I do like the design alot, it's nice to see you step away from the BM style stuff

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Originally Posted by decoy205

I really enjoy your work man. Very cool stuff!

Thanks guys!

Here's a couple more pictures of the neck blanking process:

The individual maple laminates profiled out:

Cleaned up with the walnut pieces:

And all five slapped into the neck smasher, to be left for a couple days:

crazygtr · 02-14-2013, 10:18 PM

Any reason in particular for leaving the blank clamped for that long? ( looks like Titebond )

BWGuitars · 02-14-2013, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by crazygtr

Any reason in particular for leaving the blank clamped for that long? ( looks like Titebond )

Because I have some other stuff to do for a couple days

crazygtr · 02-14-2013, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWGuitars

Because I have some other stuff to do for a couple days

good reason

Knarbens · 02-15-2013, 01:37 AM

Really cool neck blanking process!

Aaron, allow me to ask where you put the strapbutton on the bottom end?

BWGuitars · 02-15-2013, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knarbens

Really cool neck blanking process!

Aaron, allow me to ask where you put the strapbutton on the bottom end?

The "rim" of the body at the tail is about 1/2" thick, which should be plenty to bear the strap button screw. If it feels flimsy at all, I'll epoxy in a threaded insert and use a machine screw

BWGuitars · 02-16-2013, 07:28 AM

Been in the shop all night and this is all I got accomplished...

The headstock, roughed out:

Routing the 13° angle into the headstock for the scarf joint:

Routing the angle in the neck:

And clamped:

Knarbens · 02-16-2013, 07:32 AM

Really special way ... both the laminated and flame maple headstock combination and the jig.
Nice small headstock. Really looking forward to more progress.

szlash280z · 02-16-2013, 09:56 AM

you dang Cheaters with your CNC's!

NateM · 02-16-2013, 10:13 PM

Looks great so far!

Mind if I ask what program you use to model your guitars?

BWGuitars · 02-17-2013, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by szlash280z

you dang Cheaters with your CNC's!

Na na!

Quote:

Originally Posted by NateM

Looks great so far!

Mind if I ask what program you use to model your guitars?

2D CAD into my CAM software... I'm too dumb to do real 3d modeling.

BWGuitars · 02-17-2013, 06:59 AM

And bound:

BWGuitars · 02-17-2013, 09:31 AM

I still have to do some final work on the neck joint fit, but the bulk of the routing is done! Woo!

nuance97 · 02-17-2013, 09:34 AM

That thing is dead sexy!

Helderik · 02-17-2013, 01:47 PM

Wooow, what an awesome design!

I am definitely looking forward to seeing it finished!

Erik

flashbak · 02-17-2013, 01:54 PM

I like!

66 galaxie · 02-17-2013, 02:02 PM

Nice work

If I may ask a question on your jig for the scarf joint angles.
The one set of rails goes up and down the angled jig and the router slides back and forth on its own rails?
Sorry if I didnt word that correctly.

j.six · 02-17-2013, 04:36 PM

Love it. What's the bridge? There's a lot of holes, there.

BWGuitars · 02-17-2013, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 66 galaxie

Nice work

If I may ask a question on your jig for the scarf joint angles.
The one set of rails goes up and down the angled jig and the router slides back and forth on its own rails?
Sorry if I didnt word that correctly.

You got it. It offers basic 2-axis movement, and the platform is fixed at 13°. Really basic. The coolest part is that its wide enough to do my multi-scale necks as well (just angle the neck as needed when clamping it down for a nice compound scarf joint angle).

Quote:

Originally Posted by j.six

Love it. What's the bridge? There's a lot of holes, there.

It's getting a right-handed, straight-scale version of this bridge:

j.six · 02-17-2013, 05:20 PM

Nice.

BWGuitars · 03-10-2013, 09:35 PM

Not a lot of progress on this build, but I did manage to cut out a headstock overlay:

02-12-2013, 11:47 PM	#1 (permalink)
BWGuitars Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Marble Falls, TX Posts: 406 Thanks: 10 Thanked 11 Times in 1 Post	A BW Build I've been waiting to start on this project for quite a while now, so I'm pretty giddy about getting the ball rolling finally! I thought, why not do a build thread for it, especially since its a probably a lot more in line with the "norm" around here (compared to the shreddy McShreddersons that I've been building non-stop for the past year). It's a semi-hollow guitar that I'm building for my little brother and a new design that I've been working on for a while now. So I'm excited on a bunch of levels to get it started! Anywho, here's some pictures of today's progress: The guide outlines for the inner carve machined into the back of the top: The rough top carve: Inner carve done and oiled: The body chambers routed out: And then painted black: The F-hole, in the rough: And all clamped up: Knarbens, C Squared, FrankieOliver and 3 others like this. __________________ Black Water Guitar Company Website \| Facebook

02-13-2013, 01:52 AM	#3 (permalink)
Roman Master Luthier V.I.P. Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Shasta Lake Posts: 6,477 Thanks: 73 Thanked 1,153 Times in 88 Posts	Re: A BW Build I like your work. Excellent designs, elegantly executed. BWGuitars likes this. __________________ Factories build guitars for profit, Luthiers build them for players http://www.ristguitars.com http://www.wix.com/djwilbanks/Rist%20Guitars http://www.youtube.com/user/cosmicgroovemachine

02-13-2013, 02:35 AM	#4 (permalink)
Knarbens Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 2,191 Thanks: 11 Thanked 132 Times in 9 Posts	Re: A BW Build Really looking forward to this ... really nice top carve. Btw ... I was browsing your page and came accross this: Is this the bodyshape of this particular build also? I really like it! I prefer it over the blackmachine style guitars (even though they look great). decoy205, evolved_insanity and BWGuitars like this. __________________ 09-2008 Orville Les Paul Standard 06-2012 finished first guitar build 12-2012 my 2nd guitar build(s) ...

02-13-2013, 09:53 AM	#7 (permalink)
j.six Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: dallas, texas Posts: 1,786 Thanks: 18 Thanked 39 Times in 14 Posts	Re: A BW Build I love this. One of these days, I'm gonna hop in the car and head down there. __________________ "Dude, your garage looks so much bigger on the internet..." - C.Lynch "Hurry up you bastard I want to see this done!" - Doug Kauer www.sullyguitars.us - Built by Rock & Roll

02-13-2013, 12:24 PM	#8 (permalink)
Kammo1 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 218 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: A BW Build Nice guitar bro and yes I do like the design alot, it's nice to see you step away from the BM style stuff

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02-13-2013, 12:51 PM	#9 (permalink)
decoy205 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: The land of concrete shoes Posts: 6,837 Thanks: 506 Thanked 82 Times in 24 Posts	Re: A BW Build I really enjoy your work man. Very cool stuff! __________________ http://bosv.bandcamp.com/

02-14-2013, 10:18 PM	#11 (permalink)
crazygtr Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 202 Thanks: 7 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: A BW Build Any reason in particular for leaving the blank clamped for that long? ( looks like Titebond ) BWGuitars likes this.

02-15-2013, 01:37 AM	#14 (permalink)
Knarbens Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 2,191 Thanks: 11 Thanked 132 Times in 9 Posts	Re: A BW Build Really cool neck blanking process! Aaron, allow me to ask where you put the strapbutton on the bottom end? __________________ 09-2008 Orville Les Paul Standard 06-2012 finished first guitar build 12-2012 my 2nd guitar build(s) ...

02-16-2013, 07:28 AM	#16 (permalink)
BWGuitars Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Marble Falls, TX Posts: 406 Thanks: 10 Thanked 11 Times in 1 Post	Re: A BW Build Been in the shop all night and this is all I got accomplished... The headstock, roughed out: Routing the 13° angle into the headstock for the scarf joint: Routing the angle in the neck: And clamped: __________________ Black Water Guitar Company Website \| Facebook

02-16-2013, 07:32 AM	#17 (permalink)
Knarbens Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 2,191 Thanks: 11 Thanked 132 Times in 9 Posts	Re: A BW Build Really special way ... both the laminated and flame maple headstock combination and the jig. Nice small headstock. Really looking forward to more progress. BWGuitars likes this. __________________ 09-2008 Orville Les Paul Standard 06-2012 finished first guitar build 12-2012 my 2nd guitar build(s) ...

02-16-2013, 09:56 AM	#18 (permalink)
szlash280z Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,579 Thanks: 6 Thanked 17 Times in 6 Posts	Re: A BW Build you dang Cheaters with your CNC's! BWGuitars likes this. __________________

02-16-2013, 10:13 PM	#19 (permalink)
NateM Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Los Alamos, New Mexico Posts: 227 Thanks: 3 Thanked 13 Times in 2 Posts	Re: A BW Build Looks great so far! Mind if I ask what program you use to model your guitars? __________________ Nate

02-17-2013, 06:59 AM	#21 (permalink)
BWGuitars Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Marble Falls, TX Posts: 406 Thanks: 10 Thanked 11 Times in 1 Post	Re: A BW Build And bound: j.six and Barnaby like this. __________________ Black Water Guitar Company Website \| Facebook

02-17-2013, 09:31 AM	#22 (permalink)
BWGuitars Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Marble Falls, TX Posts: 406 Thanks: 10 Thanked 11 Times in 1 Post	Re: A BW Build I still have to do some final work on the neck joint fit, but the bulk of the routing is done! Woo! Knarbens, Ganorin, Barnaby and 2 others like this. __________________ Black Water Guitar Company Website \| Facebook

02-17-2013, 09:34 AM	#23 (permalink)
nuance97 Bartlett Retrospec Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,448 Thanks: 98 Thanked 46 Times in 5 Posts	Re: A BW Build That thing is dead sexy! Murkar and BWGuitars like this.

02-17-2013, 01:47 PM	#24 (permalink)
Helderik Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Eindhoven, The Netherlands Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: A BW Build Wooow, what an awesome design! I am definitely looking forward to seeing it finished! Erik BWGuitars likes this.

02-17-2013, 01:54 PM	#25 (permalink)
flashbak Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Arizona Posts: 622 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	Re: A BW Build I like! BWGuitars likes this.

02-17-2013, 02:02 PM	#26 (permalink)
66 galaxie Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: South Dakota Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: A BW Build Nice work If I may ask a question on your jig for the scarf joint angles. The one set of rails goes up and down the angled jig and the router slides back and forth on its own rails? Sorry if I didnt word that correctly. BWGuitars likes this.

02-17-2013, 04:36 PM	#27 (permalink)
j.six Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: dallas, texas Posts: 1,786 Thanks: 18 Thanked 39 Times in 14 Posts	Re: A BW Build Love it. What's the bridge? There's a lot of holes, there. BWGuitars likes this. __________________ "Dude, your garage looks so much bigger on the internet..." - C.Lynch "Hurry up you bastard I want to see this done!" - Doug Kauer www.sullyguitars.us - Built by Rock & Roll

02-17-2013, 05:20 PM	#29 (permalink)
j.six Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: dallas, texas Posts: 1,786 Thanks: 18 Thanked 39 Times in 14 Posts	Re: A BW Build Nice. BWGuitars likes this. __________________ "Dude, your garage looks so much bigger on the internet..." - C.Lynch "Hurry up you bastard I want to see this done!" - Doug Kauer www.sullyguitars.us - Built by Rock & Roll

03-10-2013, 09:35 PM	#30 (permalink)
BWGuitars Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Marble Falls, TX Posts: 406 Thanks: 10 Thanked 11 Times in 1 Post	Re: A BW Build Not a lot of progress on this build, but I did manage to cut out a headstock overlay: Knarbens, j.six and LP Traditional like this. __________________ Black Water Guitar Company Website \| Facebook

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