What do ya think of this, now??

TKOjams · 06-13-2012, 07:48 AM

I like the cutaway and the lower bout, but not too crazy about the upper bout.

ctmullins · 06-13-2012, 08:15 AM

The Florentine cutaway is really nice. Is the lower bout supposed to be asymmetrical, or is it just photo distortion?

You have seen the Les Paul Florentine, right?

TKOjams · 06-13-2012, 08:47 AM

Damn!!!

...no, I haven't seen that.

TKOjams · 06-13-2012, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctmullins

Is the lower bout supposed to be asymmetrical...

Yes

emoney · 06-13-2012, 08:57 AM

Just reshape the horn, flip the bottom half of the lower bout over to shadow it on top
and blammo. How about cutting the horn back, towards the floor like this?

TKOjams · 06-13-2012, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emoney

Just reshape the horn, flip the bottom half of the lower bout over to shadow it on top
and blammo. How about cutting the horn back, towards the floor...

nicudeemus1 · 06-13-2012, 09:28 AM

I think its a nice take on the body.

emoney · 06-13-2012, 09:34 AM

LOL....not THAT far back. Just the leading edge of the horn. Silly boy.

JRo · 06-13-2012, 10:20 AM

Not too bad, I could dig it. It's a very subtle change of the standard LP shape. Maybe push it a bit more?

Brian I · 06-13-2012, 10:31 AM

Personally, I find your design very attractive and the a symmetry just adds to how interesting it looks. I wouldn't change a thing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by emoney

Just reshape the horn, flip the bottom half of the lower bout over to shadow it on top
and blammo. How about cutting the horn back, towards the floor like this?

That kind of reminds me Bruce Sexauer's a symmetrical acoustic cutaway design:

This florentine design kind of reminds me of the 1951 les paul prototype...

pfox14 · 06-13-2012, 11:40 AM

I don't mind the sharp-ended cutaway, but I agree with you - I don't like the upper bout design. Too rounded

bruce bennett · 06-13-2012, 11:52 AM

everything that can be done has already been done..twice

Except John Backlunds Stuff

DanielDeGregoriis · 06-13-2012, 04:57 PM

Maybe something like this?

(nevermind the crappy MS Paint skills LOL)

szlash280z · 06-13-2012, 06:37 PM

The upper bout makes it look like one of those Daisy Rock guitars. Are you SURE you want a pointy sharp horn Les Paul?

Designing your own guitar totally makes you realize that almost everything has been done before. On my two original designs I've built people were quick to come up with similar examples that I'd never seen before.

I think you can come up with something a little more TKO specific, so keep at it! I dig asymetrical lower bouts, so I think you're on to something there!

ctmullins · 06-13-2012, 07:16 PM

Well, for the record, I like the extra curviness of the upper bout.

And I don't care for asymmetrical lower bouts, in general, so I guess I'm opposite everyone else.... ?

TKOjams · 06-14-2012, 08:49 AM

Ok, after scribbling all over the plan on the wall in my shop for two days..I give you the upcoming Boudreau single cut prototype.

gator payne · 06-14-2012, 08:54 AM

Just as food for thought something a lillte Asymetrical like this would look good

This is from my Red Rubarb plans currently under developement.

if you like it I could send you a PDF of it and you could do your own thing from there.

TKOjams · 06-14-2012, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gator payne

Just as food for thought something a lillte Asymetrical like this would look good

This is from my Red Rubarb plans currently under developement

Bgetraer · 06-14-2012, 09:05 AM

I like it!!!

i think that the extended right lower bout and left upper bouts give a nice thick look that i think is sometimes lost on single cut designs.
also i like that, while shallower than the les paul, the cutaway still looks very natural and not awkwardly shrunken or pointy, as (IMHO) i think that comes off as a little forced sometimes. (That said i do really like some other designs that have the smaller Cutaway

)

Yours looks new and yet still chunky, which is an awesome thing in my book!

looking forward to a build..

benjy getraer

gator payne · 06-14-2012, 09:06 AM

only thing is my red Rubarb is going to be a 24.5 (24.39) scale but easy to adapt to 24.75 if you wanted.

I like where you are going

j.six · 06-14-2012, 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TKOjams

Ok, after scribbling all over the plan on the wall in my shop for two days..I give you the upcoming Boudreau single cut prototype.

1. MUCH better
2. See #1

Two days is nothing; I started designing the Sully '71 some time in 2010, I think. The initial drawing didn't take long, but once you start making templates, you start to see things that you may not have seen on paper. At least, I did.

Gotta get around to building a couple of them; I've had the Korina sitting for about 6 months.

SUlly

Chilli · 06-14-2012, 10:10 AM

Looks good.

TravisW · 06-14-2012, 10:34 AM

I like it!

TKOjams · 06-14-2012, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j.six

1. MUCH better
2. See #1

Two days is nothing; I started designing the Sully '71 some time in 2010, I think. The initial drawing didn't take long, but once you start making templates, you start to see things that you may not have seen on paper. At least, I did.

Gotta get around to building a couple of them; I've had the Korina sitting for about 6 months.

SUlly

I remember seeing that template in one of your vids before.

j.six · 06-14-2012, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TKOjams

I remember seeing that template in one of your vids before.

Yeah, there are a few different templates that you see in the opening credits, and then the last version in the layout video. Good times!

TKOjams · 06-14-2012, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j.six

Yeah, there are a few different templates that you see in the opening credits, and then the last version in the layout video. Good times!

emoney · 06-14-2012, 01:40 PM

Looks like somebody needs to start a new build thread and get to carving that concept.

TKOjams · 06-14-2012, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emoney

Looks like somebody needs to start a new build thread and get to carving that concept.

mudfinger · 06-14-2012, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian I

This florentine design kind of reminds me of the 1951 les paul prototype...

More details on this please, links, lore, what have you, that's a very interesting guitar.

sidious911 · 06-14-2012, 03:12 PM

Your final drawing kind of brings this to mind, although the mattocaster has a slightly more aggressive take to it

06-13-2012, 07:48 AM	#1 (permalink)
TKOjams Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Connecticut Posts: 9,534 Thanks: 91 Thanked 177 Times in 54 Posts	What do ya think of this, now?? I like the cutaway and the lower bout, but not too crazy about the upper bout. __________________ Flametop Special Build - Carvetop Doublecut Build - '57 Custom BB Replica Build - '56-ish Flame Top Build - Boudreau Celia build - Lefty Walnut Les Paul Build My ebay auctions.. http://www.ebay.com/itm/290915967253...#ht_843wt_1395

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ctmullins Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: MS Gulf Coast Posts: 270 Thanks: 5 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: What do ya think of this??? The Florentine cutaway is really nice. Is the lower bout supposed to be asymmetrical, or is it just photo distortion? You have seen the Les Paul Florentine, right? __________________ -t o d d ... like the giggling crew of Merry Celeste ...

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emoney Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Best weather in US--Clearwater, FL Posts: 3,451 Thanks: 14 Thanked 17 Times in 9 Posts	Re: What do ya think of this??? Just reshape the horn, flip the bottom half of the lower bout over to shadow it on top and blammo. How about cutting the horn back, towards the floor like this?

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06-13-2012, 09:34 AM	#8 (permalink)
emoney Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Best weather in US--Clearwater, FL Posts: 3,451 Thanks: 14 Thanked 17 Times in 9 Posts	Re: What do ya think of this??? LOL....not THAT far back. Just the leading edge of the horn. Silly boy. TKOjams and greenhorn like this.

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JRo Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Vancouver Posts: 277 Thanks: 4 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	Re: What do ya think of this??? Not too bad, I could dig it. It's a very subtle change of the standard LP shape. Maybe push it a bit more?

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pfox14 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 158 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	Re: What do ya think of this??? I don't mind the sharp-ended cutaway, but I agree with you - I don't like the upper bout design. Too rounded TKOjams likes this. __________________ Please visit Fox Guitars for some cool Gibson & Epiphone history and much more www.fox-guitars.com

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szlash280z Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,578 Thanks: 6 Thanked 17 Times in 6 Posts	Re: What do ya think of this??? The upper bout makes it look like one of those Daisy Rock guitars. Are you SURE you want a pointy sharp horn Les Paul? Designing your own guitar totally makes you realize that almost everything has been done before. On my two original designs I've built people were quick to come up with similar examples that I'd never seen before. I think you can come up with something a little more TKO specific, so keep at it! I dig asymetrical lower bouts, so I think you're on to something there! __________________

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ctmullins Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: MS Gulf Coast Posts: 270 Thanks: 5 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: What do ya think of this??? Well, for the record, I like the extra curviness of the upper bout. And I don't care for asymmetrical lower bouts, in general, so I guess I'm opposite everyone else.... ? __________________ -t o d d ... like the giggling crew of Merry Celeste ...

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TKOjams Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Connecticut Posts: 9,534 Thanks: 91 Thanked 177 Times in 54 Posts	Re: What do ya think of this??? Ok, after scribbling all over the plan on the wall in my shop for two days..I give you the upcoming *Boudreau single cut prototype. pietro, schaapie, DanielDeGregoriis and 5 others like this. __________________ Flametop Special Build - Carvetop Doublecut Build - '57 Custom BB Replica Build - '56-ish Flame Top Build - Boudreau Celia build - Lefty Walnut Les Paul Build* My ebay auctions.. http://www.ebay.com/itm/290915967253...#ht_843wt_1395

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gator payne Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: High desert of West Texas Posts: 3,334 Thanks: 0 Thanked 271 Times in 24 Posts	Re: What do ya think of this??? Just as food for thought something a lillte Asymetrical like this would look good This is from my Red Rubarb plans currently under developement. if you like it I could send you a PDF of it and you could do your own thing from there. alligatorbling likes this. __________________ The true measure of a craftsman’s soul can only be measured when all he has learned is multiplied by all he has taught.

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Bgetraer Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: New Jersey Posts: 438 Thanks: 18 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: What do ya think of this, now?? I like it!!! i think that the extended right lower bout and left upper bouts give a nice thick look that i think is sometimes lost on single cut designs. also i like that, while shallower than the les paul, the cutaway still looks very natural and not awkwardly shrunken or pointy, as (IMHO) i think that comes off as a little forced sometimes. (That said i do really like some other designs that have the smaller Cutaway) Yours looks new and yet still chunky, which is an awesome thing in my book! looking forward to a build.. benjy getraer TKOjams likes this.

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