This is Sparta!

[sectorix]

Get a package from Barnaby, omg ! It's like touching elvis (lol)
If that bag had Barnabys PAFs in it... One can dream...

[poro78]

Originally Posted by Barnaby

Case too? Fine stuff! There are almost no builds I can recall on here with the case as part of them.

The bar is raised yet again.

I started building my workbench yesterday and it's going to be really fugly!
(15 tenon & mortise exercises ahead, one complete )
I guess it takes me about week to complete that, depending on how many hours I can spend in my workshop.
And after that I'll start the case, hopefully it'll be less fugly than the workbench.

Powertools are for sissies.
(Need powertools... No, must stay strong... Must not succumb to the dark side!)

Don't know about raising bars. That stuff is for weightlifters.

Originally Posted by sectorix

Get a package from Barnaby, omg ! It's like touching elvis (lol)
If that bag had Barnabys PAFs in it... One can dream...

I HAVE HIS FINGERPRINT!!!

[Barnaby]

With the DNA from the package, you can clone me...think of how many handmade guitars I could produce then.

[poro78]

Hmm... I was wondering how many B's I have to clone to make some profit, but every estimation I made resulted bankruptcy.

[VictOr358]

Originally Posted by poro78

Powertools are for sissies.

OH YEAH? ( :bitchy high pitch voice used: )
I'd like to see you managing a 2 kW circular saw on the loose and say that again

Power tools are gooooooood, the more power the beeeeeeeeeetter, they sound niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii...
Come to the 220v side, Poro!

[poro78]

"Lord Black & Decker.... Rise!"

[poro78]

It's been almost two days without visiting the workshop.
I'm getting serious withdrawal pains.


Help.



Should I quit the school already?

[VictOr358]

Originally Posted by poro78

It's been almost two days without visiting the workshop.
I'm getting serious withdrawal pains.


Help.



Should I quit the school already?

While in abstinence...
You always can start dr...awing? Like pastel or something?
Biking, mebbe?
Damit, those terraced mökis around Raisio, I blew 2 perfectly good rear Fox shocks there, not even mentioning Tarmo Saario Endurance Cup! Fight it, Poro, be strong, Darth Handtool!

[Jusamies]

Originally Posted by VictOr358

While in abstinence...
You always can start dr...awing? Like pastel or something?
Biking, mebbe?
Damit, those terraced mökis around Raisio, I blew 2 perfectly good rear Fox shocks there, not even mentioning Tarmo Saario Endurance Cup! Fight it, Poro, be strong, Darth Handtool!

Winners don't do acryl colours!

Poro, go here. No more boredom. Just hours of time wasted. Cheaper than cra...yons.

How to use:
1. Follow link above.
2. Read the page and examples.
3. Every time you see a link to a page, that seems interesting, open it in new tab. Return to step 2.
4. When browser crashes, check time. If not enough has passed, return to step 1.

Never do this if you plan on spending less than half an hour.

[VictOr358]

Meh, maastopyory on parempi kun intervebbi!

[Jusamies]

Originally Posted by VictOr358

Meh, maastopyory on parempi kun intervebbi!

Queen - Bicycle Race - YouTube

Queen - Bicycle Race - YouTube

[JonSG]

Poro I am quite impressed with the case build. I have not even considered doing this. Now the posibilities are endless
And it also means that this build will go on. Woooohooo!

[VictOr358]

Originally Posted by Jusamies

Queen - Bicycle Race - YouTube

Па�ека - �ОМ (из фильма Па�ека)- YouTube

Па�ека - �ОМ (из фильма Па�ека)- YouTube

Me so sorries, me couldn't's resists

But Poro should have this as a motto, I believe

Queen Breakthru - YouTube

Queen Breakthru - YouTube

[poro78]

Originally Posted by Jusamies

Winners don't do acryl colours!

Poro, go here. No more boredom. Just hours of time wasted. Cheaper than cra...yons.

Got acryls, got oil paint... what I don't have is the skill to use them.

And that TV Tropes page... never again.
I escaped the vortex once and don't want to try my luck again.

Originally Posted by JonSG

Poro I am quite impressed with the case build. I have not even considered doing this. Now the posibilities are endless
And it also means that this build will go on. Woooohooo!

Well, it's just going to be some fugly box-shaped case to move my soon-to-be-alive Thunderstick around. (If I succeed.)
No reason to be impressed.

Originally Posted by VictOr358

Па�ека - �ОМ (из фильма Па�ека)- YouTube

Me so sorries, me couldn't's resists

But Poro should have this as a motto, I believe
Queen Breakthru - YouTube

Oh no! You did it AGAIN!

A bit too much Queen in this thread, and yet I have to add my favourite.
(Guess why I chose the Freddie's tribute concert version and not the original... )

Queen - 'I Want It All' (Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert) - YouTube

Queen - 'I Want It All' (Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert) - YouTube

Maybe I'll get a chance to work on my projects soon.
Because... somehow, I have to make this final breakthru.

[Barnaby]

Originally Posted by poro78

Oh no! You did it AGAIN!

Yes...he posted it again!

Several months of therapy, thousands of dollars in electronic brain reconditioning...all down the drain. I tried to forget, tried to break free from the lure of Russian Art student humour, but realize that it is now hopeless!!!

[poro78]

Weekend!

It's been a while when I had a chance to spend some time uninterrupted at the workshop.
The guitar is still waiting in the closet, but luckily I have something else to do meanwhile.

I started the session with some work on my new workbench project, but got tired after raw cutting all the mortises.
As I still had some time, I started the case.

Some plywood on my trusted (and battered and really, really shaky) Workmate.



I measured the bottom, end pieces and sides and told my Japanese friend to get onto it.



Then I clamped the side pieces together and measured the strips for the lid.
And Dozuki delivered the order again.



After that I put the smaller strips aside and planed some unevenness off the bigger side pieces.



And then I put the ends and the sides together with some Titebond and nails.

*** BLOOPER ***



All right, after this picture I noticed a minor error I made.
I nailed the pieces together from the end while I was supposed to nail them together from the sides - and the bottom plate was too short.
And off they went.

Aaaaaaand next.
After I nailed them together again, I noticed that I didn't calculate the plywood thickness when cutting the end pieces - and the bottom plate was now too narrow.
And off they went.

And after some sawing and gluing and hammering I had this.



I had to make a quick test to make sure I didn't screw the whole thing up with my great measuring skills.
And it fits!
This might work!



I think I can make the lid tomorrow, but after that I have to get back onto my workbench project.

At the moment I'm having some slight cash flow problems so I have to wait for a week to get the rest of the materials I need to complete the case.
I have an old mattress that maybe could be used as padding for the inside, but I still need to get some fabric, hinges, latches, corner pieces and a handle.

[poro78]

"Who can we get on this case?
We need Perry Mason
Someone to put you in place
Calling Perry Mason"

Ozzy Osbourne - Perry Mason - YouTube

Ozzy Osbourne - Perry Mason - YouTube

So I started doing the lid for the case today. I already had the two side pieces and had to make the end pieces also.
I drew two lines using a side piece as a template.



And suddenly there were parts for my frame.



After some little planing and checking how they fit on the top of the bottom, I put them together.
This was bit tricky as the strips were quite small and after putting three pieces together the frame was quite unstable.



But I managed to complete it with minor damages. The plywood started to crack a little, so I couldn't continue with it as I had to secure the cracks with some extra glue.
So now the other end of the frame is clamped and waiting for the Titebond to dry and after that I'll install the lid and some wood blocks to the corners for some strength.



As I'm paranoid, I decided to make similar blocks for the bottom of the case aswell.



Measured them just big enough for my furniture nails and chopped them to the size.



And installed them with some glue and nails.

[Bgetraer]

Very cool project!

benjy getraer

[JonSG]

Nice work on the case Poro! I'd like to see some more pics on the progress of the bench also.
Cash flow and time...If these were not an issue we would all have a shop like your Father-in-law's and wall full of handmade guitars. All things considered, you're doing a damn good job!

[Jusamies]

Originally Posted by JonSG

Nice work on the case Poro! I'd like to see some more pics on the progress of the bench also.
Cash flow and time...If these were not an issue we would all have a shop like your Father-in-law's and wall full of handmade guitars. All things considered, you're doing a damn good job!

Now imagine we builders here wouldn't have to worry about purchasing supplies and the shortage of time. Trees would be extinct by next january!

[ThePinkEraser]

Poro, I have to say. I'm in love with, and incredibly jealous of, the color which you have managed to get on this SG. How did you do it? I must know!

[poro78]

Originally Posted by JonSG

Nice work on the case Poro! I'd like to see some more pics on the progress of the bench also.
Cash flow and time...If these were not an issue we would all have a shop like your Father-in-law's and wall full of handmade guitars. All things considered, you're doing a damn good job!

Thanks!
Hopefully the case looks nice in the end too.
I'll post some bench pictures after I get back home from school.

The cash flow problems will actually get a little bigger when the hospital bills start to appear.
Luckily Finnish health care system is not as expensive as in the US.
I think we'll have to pay only max. 600€ (750$) in a year and the rest will be paid by the government. Something good about our awfully high tax rates, should stop complaining about them now.
(Yesterday I gave wife some kind of post-chemotherapy support injection, cost us 24€ (30$) that would had cost 1350€ (1690$) without help from our system.)

Originally Posted by ThePinkEraser

Poro, I have to say. I'm in love with, and incredibly jealous of, the color which you have managed to get on this SG. How did you do it? I must know!

Well, try to make a black guitar with red grain filler and screw it up. That's my recipe.
I can give more specific information after I get back home.
(Wow! Feels like I'm teenager again! Schoooooool sucks! )

[poro78]

I hate school, but I do find accounting classes interesting. I think I'm losing it.

I checked the pictures of my workbench project and there isn't really much to tell about them. Just some pictures of measuring, sawing, drilling and rasping.
But here's a link to that album: My Fugly Workbench project

Of course if you guys want to see that coming alive, I can include it to this thread. I haven't included it because it's not guitar-related project.

And here's the recipe for the color...

[After sanding the wood, blowing it with canned air and cleaning it with naphta rag.]
I just stained the body black (and sanded the risen grain off very carefully) and added sealer coat, which in my case was just really thin nitro.
Probably not the optimal choice, but my resources were a bit limited.
Then I let it dry over night.

Next day I used the air spray and naphta to clean it up again.
And then it was time to add the grain filler (natural colored Timbermate).
I mixed red stain powder and alcohol and used the mixture to dilute the Timbermate. I'd describe the texture "sludgish".
And here's where the magic happens.

I mixed the Timbermate and red stain and somehow got pink and purple Timbermate instead of red Timbermate. (Well, at first it looked red, then it changed its color.)
Put the Timbermate all over my guitar and was really worried how it looked.
Wiped the excess the best I could and left it dry.

Next day I sanded the surface so that Timbermate was mainly in the grain, and of course, I sanded too little here and too much there, but the result was quite nice.
It wasn't what I planned it to be, but I changed my plan on the run and I stopped when I was satisfied with the pattern.

After that I added 2 sealer coats and started the basic clear schedule (2-3 coats in a day, 1 hour between - 24 hours of drying - cleaning and sanding - repeat until enough coats)

I also had that infamous black glaze coat episode, when I wasn't satisfied with the black I had.
Ended having a gray satin coat and had to sand it off.
(I now know the reason for that - I bought black pigment and of course the jar I picked up from the shelf was something that was put in the wrong place at the store. I was supposed to pick up jet black and got graphite (!!!) black. )

Basically the whole plan was to try TV Yellow/TV Black/ Dog hair -type finish, but with different colors.
Screw that up and you might have something similar I have now.

Did I forget something? I wrote this in a hurry, hopefully it's not all wrong and not too bad English.

[ROCK_GURU]

Good work, keep it up! & post rest of the build, I may attempt to do the same

[poro78]

Originally Posted by ROCK_GURU

Good work, keep it up! & post rest of the build, I may attempt to do the same

Thanks, Guru!

Some progress again as I had little time to install the lid to the frame.
First I put the lid's frame on the top of the actual case and checked if it was ok.



And after test fitting the lid on and approving it, I just applied some Titebond and hammered some nails in.
A strong staple gun would be much better in this task, I think.



Then I took a little piece of wood (big enough for 4 corner pieces) and measured the height.



Chop chop.



Bang bang.



Now this project just has to wait for a week.
I should get some cash for the fabrics and hardware then.


The nitro has been curing for 16 days now.
Two weeks to go...

[VictOr358]

Originally Posted by poro78

Now this project just has to wait for a week.
I should get some cash for the fabrics and hardware then.

Now then, what lining is planned? Are you going to go for a classic single color?
Or something as cool as your finish?

I must confess, I've glanced through the actual Marimekko catalog, but, IMO, they don't have what it takes here...

But Ikea (strangely!) does...
VENDELA Kangas - harmaa - IKEA
...Although, there are no fake leopard skins nor tiger stripes available in their selection...

Update: this one is around 11 euros per meter of lenght, 110 cm and 150 cm wide. If you're interested, we can organize a delivery

[poro78]

Well, I haven't thought THAT far yet. (My plan at the moment: something for the outside and something else for the inside. )
Single color is always good option, but we'll see when I go shopping.

I didn't even think about Ikea, but might also check what they have.
But first I will check the fabric store nearby.

[Jusamies]

Try Eurokangas. They sometimes have some nice stuff.

[poro78]

I'll check Jätti-Rätti first, it's closer.
Eurokangas is next on the list, my ex-wife used to shop a lot there.

One question that haunts my mind is the padding issue. Is the cellfoam from the old mattress good enough or should I invest in some styrofoam?

[Jusamies]

Originally Posted by poro78

I'll check Jätti-Rätti first, it's closer.
Eurokangas is next on the list, my ex-wife used to shop a lot there.

One question that haunts my mind is the padding issue. Is the cellfoam from the old mattress good enough or should I invest in some styrofoam?

Now, you have 3 options:
1) Buy styrofoam. Use it. We learn nothing, but you probably succeed in your choice of materials.
2) Use cellfoam. Fail. We all learn cellfoam sucks.
3) Use cellfoam. Succeed. We all will know cellfoam works and can use it in our future construction attempts. (Not that any of us is planning on building a case or anything *whistling, looking as innocent as a guy who just took a dump at his neighbors flowerbench* )