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Ive decided to strip my 1990 Ebony Studio..What should I use?

I have an ugly as sin 1990 Studio that is structurally sound but has had a hard life. Great fingerboard and frets. Its a nice guitar that someone just played the crap out of. Id like to strip it and then do a hand rubbed tung oil finish.

First step is to figure out how to get the finish off. A friend of mine offered my some 5F5 to strip the paint. I went out and bought some tape, plastic putty knife and some a couple of sanding pads and some coarse steel wool. Should I just sand it down with the steel wool and then brush the 5F5 on and ten start scrapping?

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Re: Ive decided to strip my 1990 Ebony Studio..What should I use?

I would like to know the answer too
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Depends on how many pieces were used to build it it may not look all that good in natural.
Go for it anyway.
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Re: Ive decided to strip my 1990 Ebony Studio..What should I use?

I find that the easiest way to strip a finish is using a (cabinet) scraper: with a curved and rectangular one you could easily do the entire guitar.

You could then finish up using sandpaper.
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Re: Ive decided to strip my 1990 Ebony Studio..What should I use?

Since it's a Studio, there's no risk in damaging any plastics with paint stripper. Probably the easiest.
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Cabinet scraper!
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Re: Ive decided to strip my 1990 Ebony Studio..What should I use?

Heat gun work well on that?
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Re: Ive decided to strip my 1990 Ebony Studio..What should I use?

I stripped mine. If yours is a Studio Lite then you may find a maple top like mine underneath.


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Re: Ive decided to strip my 1990 Ebony Studio..What should I use?

Nice work lowatter! Damn..Can I just send mine to you and have you do it the same as yours?!!!? Unfortunately mine is not a lite so Im not sure what to expect under the paint..It may become a goldtop..

lowatter, how did you strip yours?

The cabinet scrapers is not my type of tool. I can guarantee that I will gouge up the top of the guitar..I have very little woodworking skills.
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Nice work lowatter! Damn..Can I just send mine to you and have you do it the same as yours?!!!? Unfortunately mine is not a lite so Im not sure what to expect under the paint..It may become a goldtop..

lowatter, how did you strip yours?

The cabinet scrapers is not my type of tool. I can guarantee that I will gouge up the top of the guitar..I have very little woodworking skills.
You have to really try to gouge using a cabinet scraper. They make ultra fine cut in wood not big gouging cuts. the cabinet scraper is the fastest stripping method. but does require elbow grease
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You have to really try to gouge using a cabinet scraper. They make ultra fine cut in wood not big gouging cuts. the cabinet scraper is the fastest stripping method. but does require elbow grease
Hmmm..Maybe its the way to go. They seem to be reasonably priced so before I start trying the Zip Strip or 5F5, Maybe I'll give the cabinet scraper a shot.
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Re: Ive decided to strip my 1990 Ebony Studio..What should I use?

yours should have a 3 piece maple top like a Norlin and late 80's les paul....should still look cool.
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Re: Ive decided to strip my 1990 Ebony Studio..What should I use?

Agreed on the cabinet scraper!
Just be careful... Here in Germany, you get cabinet scrapers at every hardware store for a low price... But they are not burnished yet. And no hardware store here has special tools or the know-how So you have to do it yourself / get yourself the right tools. Then you will have an excellent tool
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Re: Ive decided to strip my 1990 Ebony Studio..What should I use?

Thanks for the compliments on my Studio. I just used Jasco heavy duty stripping gel from Lowes. Worked great and very fast. You have to wear thick rubber gloves and have plenty of newspaper available for under the guitar while you strip it. Plenty of soft rags too.
I would be too worried about gouging and trying to go into tight areas with a cabinet scraper. I think I had the whole guitar ready for sanding within a couple of hours.
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Re: Ive decided to strip my 1990 Ebony Studio..What should I use?

I think I saw like a 6 piece assortment of cabinet scrappers at a ace store for like 20.00 bucks.

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Re: Ive decided to strip my 1990 Ebony Studio..What should I use?

I ended up going the chemical stripper route..I got some zip strip, a plastic scraper and some steel wool. I scuffed up the paint pretty good with some steel wool and then started the zip strip process. The plastic scraper made it a bit of a chore to do but I didnt want to gouge the wood with a metal scraper. Obviously Im nowhere near being finished but I had a few hours to get it started today. It looks like it has a nice 2 piece maple top with a bit of figure to it. Should look nice with a tung oil finish on it...Here are some glamour pics..btw, I just pulled the studs out for the bridge. Not sure why I left em in there but they are gone now. If anyone has any tips for getting the rest of the black out of the top it would be much appreciated.







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sandpaper!

that's some cool lookin maple you got there man! I think you made the right choice in stripping it. (I don't like black guitars much lol)
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Re: Ive decided to strip my 1990 Ebony Studio..What should I use?

I strip some old furniture from time to time.
An antique set I did for daughter, from 1927 whih had quite a bit of hand carved detail, and some type of clay appliques.
I used an citrus based stripper about 2-3 mils thick.
Not knowing when I'd get back to it, (day or 2) I would cover the treated areas with aluminum foil.
Even 3 days later it was active.
It had lead based paint on it, so this was the only way to keep it encapsulated.
By the last stages it was down to a dental pic.
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Re: Ive decided to strip my 1990 Ebony Studio..What should I use?

I can't believe they painted that black.

I'm not seeing the seam, you sure it's 2 pieces?
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I can't believe they painted that black.

I'm not seeing the seam, you sure it's 2 pieces?

I was thinking the same thing as I pulled the paint off. I was very happy to see what lurked underneath. The seam line is very fine and is tough to photograph. Once a finish is on, it should show a bit more.
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sandpaper!

that's some cool lookin maple you got there man! I think you made the right choice in stripping it. (I don't like black guitars much lol)

Sandpaper it is! What grits should I use before staining? I was thinking 150 and then 220? Should I use a rubber block with the sandpaper?

Thanks again for all the help thus far. Im glad I went forward with this..
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Re: Ive decided to strip my 1990 Ebony Studio..What should I use?

Start with 150p end up with a final prep for finish sanding at 220p or 320p if you wish
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Thanks Gator...I just bought some 150, 220 and 320 plus a rubber block. Looking forward to doing some more work on this beauty..
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Re: Ive decided to strip my 1990 Ebony Studio..What should I use?

Quick Q...Will the citrus based strippers attack the plastic fretboard and body binding??

Great Start on the studio!!
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Re: Ive decided to strip my 1990 Ebony Studio..What should I use?

Alright, the guitar is officially stripped and sanded. I stripped the remainder of the finish off with the Zip Strip and then started the sanding process. I started at 180 and it wasnt removing the paint in the pores so I got some 120 and that did the trick. I then did a 120->180->220 sanding and it cleaned up really nice. I then gave it a good cleaning with some denatured alcohol and now Im at a bit of a crossroad. First, what do I do with the headstock? I was hoping to keep the original overlay and also keep the back intact for the serial number to stay. Now that the rest of the guitar is stripped and nice n' clean looking, Im thinking the headstock should be stripped as well. My other issue is, How should I finish it? I was thinking a tung oil finish before seeing the top but now Im thinking a burst may be cool. Only problem is Ive never sprayed a guitar before. Id like to finish this project myself so Im thinking that something novice friendly would be the best way to go. Any opinions?

Thanks again for all the input on this..I really appreciate it.





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Re: Ive decided to strip my 1990 Ebony Studio..What should I use?

Another thing I need to decide on is Grain Filler. Should I use it and if so what kind should I get?
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Re: Ive decided to strip my 1990 Ebony Studio..What should I use?

This is one beautiful guitar!

The top and back are very, very beautiful!



You could carefully sand the sides of the headstock-neck transition. This should leave you with a nice stinger. You can relevel the back of the headstock using some 600-800 grit sandpaper (more of a scuff-sanding). You could leave the neck natural and cover it with clear nitro. This should give the back of the headstock a new, clean look. The black contrasts very nicely with the maple, I think.


For porefilling, you could use Z-Poxy Finishing Resin. I'm using it too at the moment and it's quite easy to apply and sands very nicely.

This thread should get you started with the Z-Poxy:
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gator payne has a lot of experience using this epoxy resin, so you could always ask him for some more info.
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Re: Ive decided to strip my 1990 Ebony Studio..What should I use?

Thanks Dan for the info! I'll take a look at the filler you suggested. I'll also take into consideration your headstock idea. Thats definitely one way to do it. A stinger would look cool.
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I say just oil the neck down with gunstock oil... that should feel nice
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Cool guitar. Nice woRk
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