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Unread 09-01-2010, 05:30 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Re: My new Fretboard / Inlay radiusing tool

One thing is you'll want to clamp the neck or double side tape down a fresh FB to hold it. The sander will really wobble or spit it otherwise. [/QUOTE]

Here is a jig I made just for fingerboards. Route out a 1/8" deep profile of your fingerboard and make it 2" longer on each end. Make sure you keep your center line. You can then take a fingerboard and wedge it into the route. I then use a small screw at the wide end as a stop. Take a small piece of 3/4" stock and line it up parallel to your center line and screw it down. I then use one of the aluminum 12 degree radius beams from Stew Mac with sandpaper stuck to the bottom. I think the sander should work with this setup.




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Unread 09-01-2010, 05:53 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Hey Boogie do you have any more of those maple tops to sell?
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Unread 09-01-2010, 06:04 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Re: My new Fretboard / Inlay radiusing tool

I was going to do something like that except play around with vacuum to hold the board down flat. I have a vacuum generator, on one input you put compressed air and vacuum comes out another. Hopefully it will generate enough vacuum to hold the board down and stable in some stops.


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Greg PM me what radius' you'll need. I'm sure you'll need more than 12".

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I was going to do something like that except play around with vacuum to hold the board down flat. I have a vacuum generator, on one input you put compressed air and vacuum comes out another. Hopefully it will generate enough vacuum to hold the board down and stable in some stops.


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You won't need any vacuum. The fingerboard wedged into the routed out slot will stay put.
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Hey Boogie do you have any more of those maple tops to sell?


PM sent, I have 3 left
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Count me in for one as well!
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Re: My new Fretboard / Inlay radiusing tool

ever thing about bolting one of these to the bottom instead of a flat block???







I'm spoiled.. i have this.... but i still use wooden and aluminum radius blocks for fretwork and clamping. and leveling.

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You won't need any vacuum. The fingerboard wedged into the routed out slot will stay put.
I wanted to radius the board, do the inlays, fret it, and then cut the taper on the table saw, cutting the board and frets together. It would be easier and quicker than trimming each fret to width. And I wanted to keep the board parallel so I won't can easily find center again when sanding. That is why I'm trying to hold the board with vacuum.

@ HEL, that was my original idea as well but Doug offered the CNC ones. Probably a little cheaper with Doug, haven't priced the stewmac on in a while.

Stopping at Harbor Freight tonight to pickup a stroke sander


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ever thing about bolting one of these to the bottom instead of a flat block???
Shane, mine aren't flat platens. I CNC the radius I want into them then use 3m stikit. I can make them in really any radius I want and in any length. I keep a series of 4 12" radius x 24" long sanding blocks I made bolted down on one of my benchs too. Its handy They are essentially 5/8" thick, 20" long versions of the SM blocks.


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I'm spoiled.. i have this.... but i still use wooden and aluminum radius blocks for fretwork and clamping. and leveling.

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That would be great except I can't fit a neck through guitar on there. Thats why I use this sander just in those situations. Otherwise I radius the fretboard on my CNC while it slots and pockets it. Then I have a radius platen for the back side of my belt sander I use after I glue the FB to the neck and inlay it to knock the pearl down to match the radius (same step I want the new sander to do on my firebirds). Then I go over and just kiss them on my bolted down sanding blocks up to 320 grit.
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ever thing about bolting one of these to the bottom instead of a flat block???

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Already suggested by yours truley !

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if you only knew how high my nose was in the air right now over the mention of CNC on a guitar..


Hell.... If i have the cash for a machine... I'd at least cut bodies with it!!
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if you only knew how high my nose was in the air right now over the mention of CNC on a guitar..


Hell.... If i have the cash for a machine... I'd at least cut bodies with it!!
I works with the tools I gots

At the worst the CNC is damn handy for jigs and the like.
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Re: My new Fretboard / Inlay radiusing tool

May I put in an order for a pair of 12" radius blocks also. My email address is hunsrucker@comcast.net
Thanks in advance.

To think I was at Harbor Freight yesterday. I'll be a couple of weeks before I get out to W.Springfield again, but I now know what is on the short list.
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Hi. I never posted here before, but I've read some of the interesting threads here. I am a fan of cheap HF tools. This sander idea is great.

If you will excuse me, I have a few ideas not worth an entire post but maybe of interest to anyone reading this.

Fletch, I've read your fascinating thread on building the 6 LP's. Very imaginative use of tooling. YOu mentioned the issue of keeping the center axis of the board preserved until all the prep work is done. I have a suggestion for doing fretboards which I employed recently. When preparing the fretboard stock, make it a 1 or 2 inches longer if the stock permits. Mark a centerline on the board and drill a reference hole on this line at either end in the excess. I used the holes to line up the fretboard when I did the radiusing, cut frets (to keep parallel), and then used it to align to my table saw jig to cut the slanted sides (just flipped it over to get the opposite side). A simple eye screw holds the board or you can use a small screw when you are doing something that requires access to the entire top surface (sanding).

While on the subject of Harbor Freight, I also used the same little orange edge trimmer router to carve my LP top on a home made duplicator (I was making two tops). If you go to your local Ace hardware store and get a two inch PVC plumbing cap, it fits perfectly inside the support grid at the bottom of the router. Just cut six slots for the grid and push the cap in until it bottoms on the ridge inside. I drilled a center hole that permitted the tip of the bit to protrude. Using that and a 1/2" bit and a 3/8" collar permits you to cut a 0.06" edge along the top for the binding. Smooth the nose if it has raised lettering. Here is a link to a picture of the cap. Using this on a pivoting arm (like the duplicator) gives you an easy to make floating router to follow the curves on the top for the binding.

Lastly (not Harbor Freight), you can make a fretwire bender using a discarded hard disk drive. Just gut the electronics and use the platter spindle and frame. Use the washers spacing the platters to guide the fretwire, use appropriate gauge wire to space the washers (for the fretwire tang). Drill two holes in the frame sides to create the appropriate curvature on the wire. After construction, just pull the wire through the holes and along the washers to create the curvature. Just make sure that the wire lies flat on the washers, else you might get a twist. If you can't picture this, take a look at the last five home-made fretwire benders posted and imagine the hard disk in it's place.
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Re: My new Fretboard / Inlay radiusing tool

Hey Doug, did you ever get these made on your CNC? Not sure if I missed out...


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No not yet

I'm hoping this week
Kool, thanks Doug. I was checking out your Banshees earlier, flippin' awesome.


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that is slick. I'll be in when funds permit.
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