Building a Chambered LP - Page 8

stevedave · 03-15-2008, 11:58 PM

Any new pics of this beauty?

Mr Bones · 03-17-2008, 08:09 AM

not yet, I just put some WB pickups in last week though, and am really excited about doing another soundclip. I will snap some photos then.

BorrisBeckorov · 03-17-2008, 09:34 PM

Well I'm new to this thread and I'm totally impressed. Well done. I've actually been a little mia from the forums for a while (building the car below takes all my time) and Roman turned me onto this thread while giving me some tips about a chambered LP I plan to build from KOA in my "Spare time".

I noticed that someone had mentioned a while back using a bridgeport mill, I have access to one (I build hot rods professionally) and was wondering what type of endmill and what speeds you guys would use. I use it on metal all the time but never on wood.

***FLICKOFLASH*** · 03-17-2008, 09:43 PM

BorrisBeckorov post that pic of you & Billy G

BorrisBeckorov · 03-17-2008, 09:53 PM

haha I guess that one would be a little more relevant on here. He's a car guy too, and cool as hell.
Still hoping for some bridgeport tips to make my chamber, also anything special for drilling the anchor holes for the bridge/tailpiece so it doesn't tear the wood?

WBPickups · 03-18-2008, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by BorrisBeckorov

I want!

Roman Rist · 03-18-2008, 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BorrisBeckorov

also anything special for drilling the anchor holes for the bridge/tailpiece so it doesn't tear the wood?

Put some blue tape on top of the wood and use Bradpoint bits

red2rider · 03-23-2008, 08:11 AM

Hey Borris.

I use to use a mill quit a bit when building guitars.
I could mill the thickness down to where I needed.
Route the neck joint, pickups, whammy bar placement. etc etc
Just like using a router only you didn't have to worry about the damn thing jumping on you and going crazy on the product.

As far as bits I used what ever size best fitted what needed pocketing.
A flycutting bit for milling the thickness down.

By the way I'm a fellow car guy also.
Been restoring cars here in Ky for 20+yrs now. Mostly muscle cars, but have worked on just a bought every thing.

RandyB.

AndyC · 03-24-2008, 07:31 AM

I just wanted to thank nmguitars for taking us through this process in such a detailed fashion. I really appreciate the education (you ARE a teacher) as well as the craftsmanship that is going into this instrument. Thanks very much!

***FLICKOFLASH*** · 03-28-2008, 05:06 PM

check out some of Nick's other projects : My Strat Mod

pinefd · 04-18-2008, 06:12 PM

Can't we stop these f$%*'n idiots?!?

Mr Bones · 04-18-2008, 06:39 PM

I don't know...
We might have a hard time getting them off!

pinefd · 04-18-2008, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nmguitars

I don't know...
We might have a hard time getting them off!

With that much Viagra, I think you're right!

shotgunlew · 04-18-2008, 10:12 PM

WOW with all that i could knock the teeth out of my zipper!

alexn1018 · 04-22-2008, 01:52 PM

I know this is way back in the thread but what size binding do you use on the body from stew mac? What size for the neck as well?

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Originally Posted by nmguitars

I was going to wait on this part until tomorrow, but was on a roll so I went ahead and put the binding on. I usually use the stew-mac cream ABR plastic binding, but got ahold of some cellulose white binding so wanted to use that. it is not vintage-correct, but not much is on this guitar. I will tint it yellow when I paint the guitar. I use DUCO cement with this binding. Binding tape is essential for this since you can pull really hard on it and it won't break, allowing good pressure on the binding. I masked the mahogany first so that any glue drips would not get saturated into the wood causing problems for the grainfiller stain. Here is the binding going on:

Getting the binding around the bottom horn is REALLY hard. I used a hairdryer to bend the binding, but it is still a real chore, and I'm sure when I take the tape off in the morning I will have so spots to fill.

edit: nvm all set now!

***FLICKOFLASH*** · 04-25-2008, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nmguitars

not yet, I just put some WB pickups in last week though, and am really excited about doing another soundclip. I will snap some photos then.

Mr Bones · 05-04-2008, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FLICKOFLASH

Ok OK, one more soundclip with the WB special brew PUs.
Soundclip

***FLICKOFLASH*** · 05-04-2008, 10:01 PM

Thanks Nick

grozza · 05-05-2008, 05:22 AM

this thread was awesome to read, very cool

thanks

DanFogal1960 · 05-05-2008, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nmguitars

Ok OK, one more soundclip with the WB special brew PUs.
Soundclip

That sounds great!

River · 05-19-2008, 05:33 PM

What happened? I am enthralled with this project and feel like I got to the end of a great book and found the last chapter missing!

El Toro · 05-19-2008, 11:28 PM

help!

Androo · 05-29-2008, 10:53 AM

DAMN that is beautiful!!!

How much did it cost you?

pvt · 08-01-2008, 03:12 AM

[/quote]
On every guitar up until this point, I have routed a curved truss rod channel using a jig that I made just for this. On a curved channel, the route is deeper in the middle of the neck than on the ends. On 50s LPs including original bursts until 1960, gibson used a straight channel that is 1/2" deep the length of the neck, so I thought I would give this method a try, even though I understand that this will make the truss rod a little less responsive the closer to straight the neck is. I set the blade on the table saw to 1/2" and cut a channel in three passes just slightly wider than 3/16" for the truss rod. It is a nice fit, with just enough room to allow for the truss rod to function, but not be rattling around:

[/quote]

I am building my first les paul, and your (and other members') building threads have been extremely helpful. I am at the stage where I need to cut the truss rod channel. I have built a few teles, and used curved truss rod channels for those. I am trying to decide if I should use a curved or straight channel for the LP. Have you noticed if the straight truss rod channel on your chambered LP is less sensitive than some of your other LPs? Thanks.

shotgunlew · 08-01-2008, 08:08 AM

Looking good

03-15-2008, 11:58 PM	#211 (permalink)
stevedave Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 169	Re: Building a Chambered LP Any new pics of this beauty?

03-17-2008, 08:09 AM	#212 (permalink)
Mr Bones V.I.P. Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: 225 Parsons Street Posts: 683	Re: Building a Chambered LP not yet, I just put some WB pickups in last week though, and am really excited about doing another soundclip. I will snap some photos then. __________________ The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity. Hobby Guitar Builder/ Notaluthier

03-17-2008, 09:34 PM	#213 (permalink)
BorrisBeckorov Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 17	Re: Building a Chambered LP Well I'm new to this thread and I'm totally impressed. Well done. I've actually been a little mia from the forums for a while (building the car below takes all my time) and Roman turned me onto this thread while giving me some tips about a chambered LP I plan to build from KOA in my "Spare time". I noticed that someone had mentioned a while back using a bridgeport mill, I have access to one (I build hot rods professionally) and was wondering what type of endmill and what speeds you guys would use. I use it on metal all the time but never on wood.

03-17-2008, 09:43 PM	#214 (permalink)
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03-17-2008, 09:53 PM	#215 (permalink)
BorrisBeckorov Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 17	Re: Building a Chambered LP haha I guess that one would be a little more relevant on here. He's a car guy too, and cool as hell. Still hoping for some bridgeport tips to make my chamber, also anything special for drilling the anchor holes for the bridge/tailpiece so it doesn't tear the wood?

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03-23-2008, 08:11 AM	#218 (permalink)
red2rider Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 42	Re: Building a Chambered LP Hey Borris. I use to use a mill quit a bit when building guitars. I could mill the thickness down to where I needed. Route the neck joint, pickups, whammy bar placement. etc etc Just like using a router only you didn't have to worry about the damn thing jumping on you and going crazy on the product. As far as bits I used what ever size best fitted what needed pocketing. A flycutting bit for milling the thickness down. By the way I'm a fellow car guy also. Been restoring cars here in Ky for 20+yrs now. Mostly muscle cars, but have worked on just a bought every thing. RandyB.

03-24-2008, 07:31 AM	#219 (permalink)
AndyC Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The Ether Posts: 393	Re: Building a Chambered LP I just wanted to thank nmguitars for taking us through this process in such a detailed fashion. I really appreciate the education (you ARE a teacher) as well as the craftsmanship that is going into this instrument. Thanks very much!

03-28-2008, 05:06 PM	#220 (permalink)
*FLICKOFLASH* Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hagerstown,MD USA Posts: 7,388	Re: Building a Chambered LP check out some of Nick's other projects : My Strat Mod __________________ http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/back...new-rules.html http://www.marshallforum.com/ http://www.geartalk.com/forums/index.php http://www.gpickups.com/

04-18-2008, 06:12 PM	#221 (permalink)
pinefd V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 724	Re: Building a Chambered LP Can't we stop these f$%*'n idiots?!? __________________ Check out my website at: www.lesstallguitars.com And check out some of my personal gear at: Historic Les Paul Database

04-18-2008, 06:39 PM	#222 (permalink)
Mr Bones V.I.P. Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: 225 Parsons Street Posts: 683	Re: Building a Chambered LP I don't know... We might have a hard time getting them off! __________________ The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity. Hobby Guitar Builder/ Notaluthier

04-18-2008, 10:12 PM	#224 (permalink)
shotgunlew V.I.P. Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,692	Re: Building a Chambered LP WOW with all that i could knock the teeth out of my zipper! __________________ ]60% of the time...it works every time.... Gun Control = Using Both Hands!! Everyone Please Pray for Spc Jeffery Crones and the rest of the boys in iraq! Get some boys! Chris "The Gunhand" Of the MLP Pirates Crew

05-04-2008, 10:01 PM	#228 (permalink)
*FLICKOFLASH* Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hagerstown,MD USA Posts: 7,388	Re: Building a Chambered LP Thanks Nick __________________ http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/back...new-rules.html http://www.marshallforum.com/ http://www.geartalk.com/forums/index.php http://www.gpickups.com/

05-05-2008, 05:22 AM	#229 (permalink)
grozza Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Melbourne, Aus Posts: 105	Re: Building a Chambered LP this thread was awesome to read, very cool thanks __________________ Guitars Squier Stratocaster ESP LTD V-350 Ibanez RG7321 ESP LTD MH-400 Ibanez RGT220A Prestige Epiphone Les Paul Midnight Custom Epiphone Les Paul Standard Honeyburst Amps Peavey 6505 Head Peavey 4X12 Cab Line6 Spider 112 Yamaha Budokan

05-19-2008, 05:33 PM	#231 (permalink)
River Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Crestone, CO Posts: 401	Re: Building a Chambered LP What happened? I am enthralled with this project and feel like I got to the end of a great book and found the last chapter missing!

05-19-2008, 11:28 PM	#232 (permalink)
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05-29-2008, 10:53 AM	#233 (permalink)
Androo Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 346	Re: Building a Chambered LP DAMN that is beautiful!!! How much did it cost you?

08-01-2008, 03:12 AM	#234 (permalink)
pvt Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5	Re: Building a Chambered LP [/quote] On every guitar up until this point, I have routed a curved truss rod channel using a jig that I made just for this. On a curved channel, the route is deeper in the middle of the neck than on the ends. On 50s LPs including original bursts until 1960, gibson used a straight channel that is 1/2" deep the length of the neck, so I thought I would give this method a try, even though I understand that this will make the truss rod a little less responsive the closer to straight the neck is. I set the blade on the table saw to 1/2" and cut a channel in three passes just slightly wider than 3/16" for the truss rod. It is a nice fit, with just enough room to allow for the truss rod to function, but not be rattling around: [/quote] I am building my first les paul, and your (and other members') building threads have been extremely helpful. I am at the stage where I need to cut the truss rod channel. I have built a few teles, and used curved truss rod channels for those. I am trying to decide if I should use a curved or straight channel for the LP. Have you noticed if the straight truss rod channel on your chambered LP is less sensitive than some of your other LPs? Thanks.

08-01-2008, 08:08 AM	#235 (permalink)
shotgunlew V.I.P. Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,692	Re: Building a Chambered LP Looking good __________________ ]60% of the time...it works every time.... Gun Control = Using Both Hands!!