Possible new G0

jomo · 10-22-2009, 01:32 AM

I PMed a couple of my homeys on here but I figured I'd share with everyone. I am strongly considering getting this G0 tomorrow. What do you guys think?

I was set on an R0 and it was even advertised as an R0, but when he called me, he said it was a G0. Is the R0 any better? Should I just hold out for the anniversary R0?

Skynyrdpicker · 10-22-2009, 01:36 AM

With reflectors that would be so perfect. Looks nice anyway

I really dig that board too. I can't tell you about the value versus a regular R0, but I would just play it and see how it feels to you (although you obviously know that

)

jomo · 10-22-2009, 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skynyrdpicker

With reflectors that would be so perfect. Looks nice anyway

I really dig that board too. I can't tell you about the value versus a regular R0, but I would just play it and see how it feels to you (although you obviously know that

)

Ahh, you're right, reflectors will have to be on the shopping list. I'll have to start looking for some if I get it.

paulygates · 10-22-2009, 02:05 AM

Unusual. It looks like a darkburst at one end and cherry at the other.

Me likey!

alligatorbling · 10-22-2009, 02:18 AM

some folks say the G0 are not the same caliber as the R0 as the G0 was made for guitar center and musicians friend... i have no idea if there is any truth to this or not... thats all i can tell ya

goodvibes · 10-22-2009, 02:55 AM

I had one very similar to this one. I loved it except that it was very heavy for me so i traded for an R0 which I got the other day. The Anniv R0's are going to be expensive and you can probably spend a little more on this one and dress it up with some nice vintage clone goodies! Something to think about.

Hell, maybe you got my old one??? They look identical!

dave999z · 10-22-2009, 08:52 AM

An R0 is a 1960 reissue that now only comes in flame top and costs over $5k new. Comes in VOS or gloss (gloss is $300 more).
http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/p...ar-?sku=517985
http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/p...tar?sku=517835
(The R0 apparently came as a plain top for awhile as well. I don't know when that was. Not sure if it was at the same time that they were selling flame top R0s and they just charged more for the flame version, or what. But for at least the last couple years, probably longer, R0 = flame top.)

A G0 is a 1960 reissue with a plain top (so, not very historically accurate, because by 1960 Gibson was using flame tops) and costs $3k new and is only available from Guitar Center (hence the "G") or its affiliates. Comes only in VOS. I believe on occasion these go onsale, down to like $2400, at Musician's Friend (a Guitar Center affiliate). It's the same guitar as an R0 except for the top (and the serial number).
http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/p...are?sku=514207

dave999z · 10-22-2009, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulygates

Unusual. It looks like a darkburst at one end and cherry at the other.

Great description. That's a pretty unique guitar there.

Hogman49 · 10-22-2009, 09:00 AM

For what it's worth, I have a brand new G0 and I absolutely love it. It holds it's own up aginst my R9 as far as tone and playability. It is, however, pretty heavy. If you are not bothered by the weight, I'd say you'll probably really dig it. The color is unique on the one you are scoping out, very nice. Good luck.

Boshizzle · 10-22-2009, 09:14 AM

I have owned an R9, an R8, and a G0. I got rid of all of them except my G0. Don't let the GC affiliation sway you. G0 guitars are made in the same factory by the same craftsmen that make the R0 and the R9. Same wood, same pups, same hardware, etc. Only, the G0 doesn't have the pointers on the knobs.

BTW - Gibson CS does make some R0 plain tops that they sell as R0 guitars. My G0 is stamped "R0" inside the control cavity even though it was sold as a G0.

dwagar · 10-22-2009, 09:30 AM

I think the G0 to the R0 is about the same as the R8 to the R9.

Less expensive because of the plain top.

If you want the smaller neck, and don't care about flame, a great buy.

Just be careful in the used market, a lot of sellers like to pretend they are R0s for pricing, I guess hoping people don't know the G0s exist.

Boshizzle · 10-22-2009, 09:35 AM

BTW - Here is a plaintop R0 that Mark's Guitar Loft has for sale. Looks like a nice guitar. Interesting dark stained back. It's not a G0. It's an R0. Take a look at the serial number. There is also a plaintop R0 for sale in the classified forum.

All of the plaintop R0s that I have seen had a gloss finish. So, that may be the real difference between the G0 and the R0 plaintops. All G0's that I have ever seen have a VOS finish.

dave999z · 10-22-2009, 10:42 AM

If Gibson sells some R0s that have plain tops but still charges upwards of $5k for them (even if they're gloss finish, big deal), that is highway robbery. Must be one hell of a plain top. That seems to me like ordering an R9 and it shows up and - oh hey they decided not to put pickups or a bridge on it. I consider the flame top on an R0 a major part of its value.

I agree that if you're buying new, a G0 is a fantastic value. Once you go used, I would pay maybe $1800 or so for one in this market, because a used G0 should be significantly cheaper than a used R0.

dwagar · 10-22-2009, 10:48 AM

IIRC plaintop R0s are pretty rare, but there are a few out there.

I agree, a G0 is a best buy.

LongBeach · 10-22-2009, 11:26 AM

The R0 PT is not 5K.
I have 2. I'm not going to say what I paid for mine, but,
I will say it was a hell of allot less than a flame top R0.
They are great guitars, they still make them to this
very day, just harder to find.

Are they better than a G0? dunno, never played a G0.
But I highly doubt they would be that much better.

Jomo, get the G0, throw some reflector's on it and your set

Or, call Saul at CC, and ask him what he wants for an R0 PT. The ones
I bought from him, 1 is a black back, other is a dark back, and I'm sure
he probably has 1 in stock.

Fader · 10-22-2009, 12:12 PM

Is somebody really asking "again" what the diff between R0 and G0.

R9. · 10-22-2009, 12:48 PM

You had an R9 once and you sold it for whatever reason.
You're looking at buying the same guitar again with a slimmer neck.

BostonGuitar · 10-22-2009, 12:58 PM

Lemme show you sumphin...

2007 Gibson Les Paul R0 Plaintop Iced Teaburst Darkback Re-Finished by the good folks at RS to be a Goldtop. No checking was done, but there is accurate shading under the knobs, poker chip, and pickguard. It is TOP SHELF work:

jomo · 10-22-2009, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fader

Is somebody really asking "again" what the diff between R0 and G0.

Not at all, sheesh man, do I have to spell everything out for 3rd graders? I've been on here long enough and have owned enough Les Pauls to know the difference. I was looking for input and opinions. I didn't want to hook up with the Guitar Center version and regret it. I've owned an R9 (and lots of Standards, Deluxes etc) but never an R0 or a G0.
Now the real question is, pick guard on or off.

Oh and will a G0 get me Slash tone?

jomo · 10-22-2009, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R9.

You had an R9 once and you sold it for whatever reason.
You're looking at buying the same guitar again with a slimmer neck.

Oh, didn't see this.

Yes, I want to try a slimmer neck.
Thanks

fudd · 10-22-2009, 01:40 PM

Ummmmm.....for what it's worth I have a G0 that I bought new, excellent all around. It has R0 stamped in the control cavity soooooo

.

At any rate that is a GREAT lookin G0. Don't think you'd regret it. Let us know

.

jomo · 10-22-2009, 02:17 PM

Here's my delima. The guy wants 2 G's for it, I just saw a NEW R0 on ebay for $2800 with a nice flame top. The auction is for like 9 days, so I could probably hold off and swing that one but would probably have to sell one of my Fenders to replace the savings.

Now, what was the difference in the G0 and R0 again??

LongBeach · 10-22-2009, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jomo

Here's my delima. The guy wants 2 G's for it, I just saw a NEW R0 on ebay for $2800 with a nice flame top. The auction is for like 9 days, so I could probably hold off and swing that one but would probably have to sell one of my Fenders to replace the savings.

Now, what was the difference in the G0 and R0 again??

The only way you can get slash tone out of a G0, opposed to an R0 is
if you put your underwear over your head and prance around the room
like a fairy!

Kidding! I'm betting the difference between the two is one has a "G" in
front of the 0 on the back of the headstock!

jomo · 10-22-2009, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LongBeach

The only way you can get slash tone out of a G0, opposed to an R0 is
if you put your underwear over your head and prance around the room
like a fairy!

Kidding! I'm betting the difference between the two is one has a "G" in
front of the 0 on the back of the headstock!

You're right I'm sure, but I have this thing about buying guitars "right". I lost my ass on that R9 I bought on here and I want to at least break even on this one if I sold it.

By the way, I'm relieved to know that I don't have to put a bucket on my head to get Slash tone.

LongBeach · 10-22-2009, 03:28 PM

Wasnt the G0 originally $3,999 ? then they dropped it to $2,999 ?

gibsondude · 10-22-2009, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jomo

.

Now, what was the difference in the G0 and R0 again??

G0 = R0 VOS with plain top

Hogman49 · 10-22-2009, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LongBeach

The only way you can get slash tone out of a G0, opposed to an R0 is
if you put your underwear over your head and prance around the room
like a fairy!

Kidding! I'm betting the difference between the two is one has a "G" in
front of the 0 on the back of the headstock!

Now, now. Everybody knows, the tone is in the strap. You could put that strap on a Banjo, doesn't matter. Find the same strap, and there you go. You could be the next Slash.

jomo · 10-22-2009, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gibsondude

G0 = R0 VOS with plain top

That was joke my friend.

Thanks anyway.

To those friends that PMed me (the ones that know I'm not a total idiot), thanks for all your input, (Bol, Kernal, southbeachdiet) I think I'm going to hold out for an R0 unless home slice wants to drop a couple hunskies.

And just to be clear because I wasn't clear in the initial post. This is a forum and this is really what it's here for (discussing LPs). I get tired of the "slash tones" and the "pickguard" threads as much as the next guy and just because I'm not in this section all the time, doesn't mean that I'm clueless. Reading the post "not another G0/R0 thread again" or what ever was obviously a stab at me and that's cool, but I feel like most people on here know me and know what "level" I'm on (not that I'm an expert, but certainly not a noob). So just to make it clear, this thread was not because I didn't know what a G0 was, but to get some input before I made a "rash" decision.
Thanks

mokume · 10-22-2009, 07:49 PM

Get the G0 Jomo they're great!

Mike60 · 10-22-2009, 07:54 PM

...get a R0 flametop.

10-22-2009, 01:32 AM	#1 (permalink)
jomo Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Nashville Posts: 6,267 Thanks: 78 Thanked 85 Times in 23 Posts	Possible new G0 I PMed a couple of my homeys on here but I figured I'd share with everyone. I am strongly considering getting this G0 tomorrow. What do you guys think? I was set on an R0 and it was even advertised as an R0, but when he called me, he said it was a G0. Is the R0 any better? Should I just hold out for the anniversary R0? __________________

10-22-2009, 01:36 AM	#2 (permalink)
Skynyrdpicker Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Montreal Posts: 3,240 Thanks: 74 Thanked 13 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Possible new G0 With reflectors that would be so perfect. Looks nice anyway I really dig that board too. I can't tell you about the value versus a regular R0, but I would just play it and see how it feels to you (although you obviously know that ) __________________ Check out my MySpace!

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goodvibes Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Fun Diego, CA Posts: 95 Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Possible new G0 I had one very similar to this one. I loved it except that it was very heavy for me so i traded for an R0 which I got the other day. The Anniv R0's are going to be expensive and you can probably spend a little more on this one and dress it up with some nice vintage clone goodies! Something to think about. Hell, maybe you got my old one??? They look identical!

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10-22-2009, 08:52 AM	#7 (permalink)
dave999z Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 132 Thanks: 1 Thanked 10 Times in 1 Post	Re: Possible new G0 An R0 is a 1960 reissue that now only comes in flame top and costs over $5k new. Comes in VOS or gloss (gloss is $300 more). http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/p...ar-?sku=517985 http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/p...tar?sku=517835 (The R0 apparently came as a plain top for awhile as well. I don't know when that was. Not sure if it was at the same time that they were selling flame top R0s and they just charged more for the flame version, or what. But for at least the last couple years, probably longer, R0 = flame top.) A G0 is a 1960 reissue with a plain top (so, not very historically accurate, because by 1960 Gibson was using flame tops) and costs $3k new and is only available from Guitar Center (hence the "G") or its affiliates. Comes only in VOS. I believe on occasion these go onsale, down to like $2400, at Musician's Friend (a Guitar Center affiliate). It's the same guitar as an R0 except for the top (and the serial number). http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/p...are?sku=514207

10-22-2009, 09:00 AM	#9 (permalink)
Hogman49 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: New York Posts: 219 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Possible new G0 For what it's worth, I have a brand new G0 and I absolutely love it. It holds it's own up aginst my R9 as far as tone and playability. It is, however, pretty heavy. If you are not bothered by the weight, I'd say you'll probably really dig it. The color is unique on the one you are scoping out, very nice. Good luck.

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Boshizzle Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: In The Extreme Middle Posts: 520 Thanks: 0 Thanked 10 Times in 1 Post	Re: Possible new G0 I have owned an R9, an R8, and a G0. I got rid of all of them except my G0. Don't let the GC affiliation sway you. G0 guitars are made in the same factory by the same craftsmen that make the R0 and the R9. Same wood, same pups, same hardware, etc. Only, the G0 doesn't have the pointers on the knobs. BTW - Gibson CS does make some R0 plain tops that they sell as R0 guitars. My G0 is stamped "R0" inside the control cavity even though it was sold as a G0. __________________ 2008 1959 Reissue Les Paul / 2008 1960 Les Paul Historic VOS FOR SALE / 1974 Gibson Les Paul Special '55 Reissue / 1964 Gibson Country Western Acoustic / 2008 Fender Custom Shop '56 Strat / 2005 Epiphone '57 LP Goldtop - Skynyrd 30th / Agile PS-1000 / 1977 Ovation Legend / 1975 Fender Acoustic / Stelling Red Fox Banjo / Peavey Heritage VTX / Blackstar HT-5 Mini Stack / Epiphone Valve Sr. / Fender '65 Reissue Deluxe Reverb FOR SALE

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dwagar V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: C eh? N eh? D eh? Posts: 4,961 Thanks: 28 Thanked 51 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Possible new G0 I think the G0 to the R0 is about the same as the R8 to the R9. Less expensive because of the plain top. If you want the smaller neck, and don't care about flame, a great buy. Just be careful in the used market, a lot of sellers like to pretend they are R0s for pricing, I guess hoping people don't know the G0s exist. __________________ ------------ Don my favorite toys (one wants to be a '59, the other is a '59):

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Boshizzle Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: In The Extreme Middle Posts: 520 Thanks: 0 Thanked 10 Times in 1 Post	Re: Possible new G0 BTW - Here is a plaintop R0 that Mark's Guitar Loft has for sale. Looks like a nice guitar. Interesting dark stained back. It's not a G0. It's an R0. Take a look at the serial number. There is also a plaintop R0 for sale in the classified forum. All of the plaintop R0s that I have seen had a gloss finish. So, that may be the real difference between the G0 and the R0 plaintops. All G0's that I have ever seen have a VOS finish. __________________ 2008 1959 Reissue Les Paul / 2008 1960 Les Paul Historic VOS FOR SALE / 1974 Gibson Les Paul Special '55 Reissue / 1964 Gibson Country Western Acoustic / 2008 Fender Custom Shop '56 Strat / 2005 Epiphone '57 LP Goldtop - Skynyrd 30th / Agile PS-1000 / 1977 Ovation Legend / 1975 Fender Acoustic / Stelling Red Fox Banjo / Peavey Heritage VTX / Blackstar HT-5 Mini Stack / Epiphone Valve Sr. / Fender '65 Reissue Deluxe Reverb FOR SALE

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dave999z Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 132 Thanks: 1 Thanked 10 Times in 1 Post	Re: Possible new G0 If Gibson sells some R0s that have plain tops but still charges upwards of $5k for them (even if they're gloss finish, big deal), that is highway robbery. Must be one hell of a plain top. That seems to me like ordering an R9 and it shows up and - oh hey they decided not to put pickups or a bridge on it. I consider the flame top on an R0 a major part of its value. I agree that if you're buying new, a G0 is a fantastic value. Once you go used, I would pay maybe $1800 or so for one in this market, because a used G0 should be significantly cheaper than a used R0.

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dwagar V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: C eh? N eh? D eh? Posts: 4,961 Thanks: 28 Thanked 51 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Possible new G0 IIRC plaintop R0s are pretty rare, but there are a few out there. I agree, a G0 is a best buy. __________________ ------------ Don my favorite toys (one wants to be a '59, the other is a '59):

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LongBeach Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Long Beach Ca. Posts: 7,059 Thanks: 7 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Possible new G0 The R0 PT is not 5K. I have 2. I'm not going to say what I paid for mine, but, I will say it was a hell of allot less than a flame top R0. They are great guitars, they still make them to this very day, just harder to find. Are they better than a G0? dunno, never played a G0. But I highly doubt they would be that much better. Jomo, get the G0, throw some reflector's on it and your set Or, call Saul at CC, and ask him what he wants for an R0 PT. The ones I bought from him, 1 is a black back, other is a dark back, and I'm sure he probably has 1 in stock.

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BostonGuitar Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 149 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Possible new G0 Lemme show you sumphin... 2007 Gibson Les Paul R0 Plaintop Iced Teaburst Darkback Re-Finished by the good folks at RS to be a Goldtop. No checking was done, but there is accurate shading under the knobs, poker chip, and pickguard. It is TOP SHELF work: __________________ 2007 GoldTop/DarkBack Gibson Les Paul Standard Historic 1960 Reissue VOS(1957/2008 Pickups)

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fudd Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: in a house Posts: 59 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Possible new G0 Ummmmm.....for what it's worth I have a G0 that I bought new, excellent all around. It has R0 stamped in the control cavity soooooo . At any rate that is a GREAT lookin G0. Don't think you'd regret it. Let us know . __________________ Les Paul G0 1960 VOS Honey Burst Martin HD28 Fender Hot Rod Deluxe 1 Wife 1 Daughter 1 Son 2003 American Line German Shepherd Dog 2005 East German Line German Shepherd Dog

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jomo Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Nashville Posts: 6,267 Thanks: 78 Thanked 85 Times in 23 Posts	Re: Possible new G0 Here's my delima. The guy wants 2 G's for it, I just saw a NEW R0 on ebay for $2800 with a nice flame top. The auction is for like 9 days, so I could probably hold off and swing that one but would probably have to sell one of my Fenders to replace the savings. Now, what was the difference in the G0 and R0 again?? __________________

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LongBeach Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Long Beach Ca. Posts: 7,059 Thanks: 7 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Possible new G0 Wasnt the G0 originally $3,999 ? then they dropped it to $2,999 ?

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