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Unread 09-29-2009, 03:28 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Re: 1960 Gibson Les Paul Classic.

Hey thanks man. I guess the only thing that is really stopping me is this... is the value of a 1992 les paul classic, well taken care of but does have some years on it obviously playing... is it worth trading a $1600-1700 amp for.

Or is it more worth it to wait and sell the thing and get an almost brand new Les Paul Standard (on ebay, etc). The value is really all I care about... if the thing is worth $1600-$1700 I think i'll go for it, i love the finish and the look of it. I can always switch pups.

From what i've seen the Classics, atleast the twenty first century classics were one step below the Standard as far as the product was concerned (price wise), and I have no idea if this was true in the early 90's
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Unread 09-29-2009, 04:27 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Re: 1960 Gibson Les Paul Classic.

The early Classics cost more than the same year Standards.
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Unread 09-29-2009, 04:30 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Re: 1960 Gibson Les Paul Classic.

In the early 90s a Standard listed for $1600, a Classic $2200. (the Classic Plus and Premium Plus were even more)
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Not too many prehistorics have the customshop decal on them.
Here's my 1992 Prehistoric painted by Tom Murphy in a very rare Birdseye/Quilt/Blister. It has the Custom Shop Edition Decal and came w/ a COA signed by Tom as well...very cool!

BTW in the early 90's Gibson put out some very nice guitars.


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Here's my 1995 Classic premium plus...I love it




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Re: 1960 Gibson Les Paul Classic.

That same guitar is in Hawaii last time I was there. Great guitar!!!

As far as an early classic, it seems like a decent deal. My only thought is that for around $2000 you could get a goldtop 57' reissue.
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That same guitar is in Hawaii last time I was there. Great guitar!!!

As far as an early classic, it seems like a decent deal. My only thought is that for around $2000 you could get a goldtop 57' reissue.
The 92 ? If so, there are only about 25 of them, Ive only seen pics of 3 others.
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The 92 ? If so, there are only about 25 of them, Ive only seen pics of 3 others.
It was at Dan's guitar shop in Waikiki in 2000 and then I went back to visit and another shop had it right by Dan's but closer to the Zoo going towards the beach. I played it a couple of times and had to convince myself I didn't need it. It was one that got away. It had the same birds eye look also. Same color.
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Here's my 1992 Prehistoric painted by Tom Murphy in a very rare Birdseye/Quilt/Blister. It has the Custom Shop Edition Decal and came w/ a COA signed by Tom as well...very cool!

BTW in the early 90's Gibson put out some very nice guitars.

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[QUOTE=loudlester;1174994]Here's my 1992 Prehistoric painted by Tom Murphy in a very rare Birdseye/Quilt/Blister. It has the Custom Shop Edition Decal and came w/ a COA signed by Tom as well...very cool!

BTW in the early 90's Gibson put out some very nice guitars.



Does yours have a long neck tenon?
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Thanks for the responses guys! I wish I knew how to post pictures on here so you could see what I am looking at.

I am really having a hard time putting a value on this guitar... it is good to know they were worth more than the standards during the time period, because now they are not (I wonder why gibson made that move).

The offer for the 95' standard natural finish has changed... the guy now wants $400 extra cash along with my mesa boogie 3 channel dual rectifier half stack with matching oversized mesa closed back slant cab (vintage 30's). funny he offered the Standard first for the trade and didn't mention the $400... He priced his 95' standard at $1900, I respect that, although I see them all over the place on ebay going for $1600-$1800

I showed interest in the 92' classic because I like the tobacco burst better than the natural finish and he must have changed his mind... now he thinks it is an even trade just for the classic... I don't know guys what do you think? trying to put a good value to this guitar. My amp is worth $1700- $1600 minimum.

Starting to lean towards being patient in selling the amp for cash and maybe adding a couple hundred if I need to, to get whatever finish standard I want, in pretty much brand new condition with the burstbuckers (my preference) unless there is something extravagant about the early 90's which I am open to. Fret wear is a concern also, not sure about a guitar that old, and like one of you said... it will never appreciate significantly bc it is not a VOS or true Heritage reissue...

Long Post I know... the quarrels of buying your first LP, you want it to be a good one and not get ripped!! Any thoughts?
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Re: 1960 Gibson Les Paul Classic.

Sell the amp and go one the hunt. Never settle.
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Re: 1960 Gibson Les Paul Classic.

Listen. Aside from what it costs and what you'd have to go through to get the Classic, is it a guitar you really want? I paid $1400 for mine a year ago with a repaired headstock. I could probably have gotten another one cheaper from someone else, but I really, really wanted that guitar and just said phuck it, this is what I'm going for! The early 90s were the golden years for the Classic, specifically '90 - mid'93 and I really think you're getting a superior instrument over a modern Standard. I'm also very partial to the ABR-1 bridge with posts that screw directly into the wood, so a Standard would be out of the question for me right away, but again - that's just me.

I didn't read everything in this thread, but can you try the guitar before you decide? If so, then you could check the fretwear and those things for yourself to see you'd be getting a killer playing guitar right away or if you'd have to use some more cash to have it setup before its true potential would shine through.

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Re: 1960 Gibson Les Paul Classic.

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Here's my 1992 Prehistoric painted by Tom Murphy in a very rare Birdseye/Quilt/Blister. It has the Custom Shop Edition Decal and came w/ a COA signed by Tom as well...very cool!

BTW in the early 90's Gibson put out some very nice guitars.

http://i34.tinypic.com/ndk08z.jpg

Does yours have a long neck tenon?

Does not, I don't think any "prehistorics" up to 92 and thru 92 had long neck tenons (there maybe an exception out there somewhere, the early 90's was a wild time at Gibson. Long neck tenons started with the "Historics"c in '93.
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Listen. Aside from what it costs and what you'd have to go through to get the Classic, is it a guitar you really want? I paid $1400 for mine a year ago with a repaired headstock. I could probably have gotten another one cheaper from someone else, but I really, really wanted that guitar and just said phuck it, this is what I'm going for! The early 90s were the golden years for the Classic, specifically '90 - mid'93 and I really think you're getting a superior instrument over a modern Standard. I'm also very partial to the ABR-1 bridge with posts that screw directly into the wood, so a Standard would be out of the question for me right away, but again - that's just me.

I didn't read everything in this thread, but can you try the guitar before you decide? If so, then you could check the fretwear and those things for yourself to see you'd be getting a killer playing guitar right away or if you'd have to use some more cash to have it setup before its true potential would shine through.

Edit: If you have problems with uploading pictures, send them to my email and I'll upload them on Photobucket for you and post them here. Leidolfr@gmail.com

Hey thanks man, I agree with you about trying it out. This guy would probably be pissed though if I tried it and then said no lol. He's an older guy and plays gigs, has several guitars etc.

As far as the build quality, that was another thing I was wondering, were they hand made in the early 90's, do people not like the plek machine method? and did you say the bridges on the older LP's didn't screw directly into the wood? did they route them first? because if they routed them first with something to screw into obviously which takes more time and labor, it is a better build quality. You are starting to make me reconsider this classic, I do like the finish... Although I love burstbuckers, but maybe i'll say phuck it like you
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Does not, I don't think any "prehistorics" up to 92 and thru 92 had long neck tenons (there maybe an exception out there somewhere, the early 90's was a wild time at Gibson. Long neck tenons started with the "Historics"c in '93.
Thats what I thought. I read the thread above and it said his birds eye had a long neck tenon, then I realized it was a 99' custom shop. I read it wrong.
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Hey thanks man, I agree with you about trying it out. This guy would probably be pissed though if I tried it and then said no lol. He's an older guy and plays gigs, has several guitars etc.

As far as the build quality, that was another thing I was wondering, were they hand made in the early 90's, do people not like the plek machine method? and did you say the bridges on the older LP's didn't screw directly into the wood? did they route them first? because if they routed them first with something to screw into obviously which takes more time and labor, it is a better build quality. You are starting to make me reconsider this classic, I do like the finish... Although I love burstbuckers, but maybe i'll say phuck it like you
Pssh, just let him be pissed if it turns out you don't want it, it's not like you go to a guitar store and buy a guitar you don't want either. He'll understand.

I haven't played a pleked guitar, so I can't comment on that. The ABR-1 bridge has two 6/32" screws as posts that are just screwed directly into the guitar body, it's not routed or anything. On Standards and other modern USA line guitars the bridge posts screw into bushings that are sunk into the body instead. I'm a firm believer that when the bridge posts go directly into the wood, the tone transfer is superior, but that's just one opinion against another I suppose. And if you like Burstbuckers or any other pickups better, swapping them is easy peasy.
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I wish the Historics had the same top carve as the early classics.
Although the neck is totally off, my 91 classic nailed the top carve of a burst.
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Re: 1960 Gibson Les Paul Classic.

Here's a couple of picks of my "Prehistoric" 1960 reissue.

Bought in 92, made in 91.
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Couple more pics...

Anybody have any realistic idea what it my be worth? I am looking to sell....
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Hey new to the site........ I have a '92 Ebony Les Paul Classic with the white bindings and pick guard. The thing is sick the early classics were considered the hot rods of the les pauls..... It definitely sound alot different then my 2004 Standard. Will post pics.....
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Re: 1960 Gibson Les Paul Classic.

I've always wondered, what's the deal with the green inlays on the later classics?
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I've always wondered, what's the deal with the green inlays on the later classics?
They were made to simulate "age", because if you look at many of the vintage LPs, the original Cellulose Nitrate inlays turned yellow/green from the players' sweat, smoke, and just plain old age. And, since Classics were created as an homage to the original '60s Standards, the "aged" inlays were just a finishing touch.
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Re: 1960 Gibson Les Paul Classic.

Any opinions on how a 1999 Les Paul Classic matches up to 1990 to 1993 models? Thanx.
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Any opinions on how a 1999 Les Paul Classic matches up to 1990 to 1993 models? Thanx.
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Hi everyone. I'm new here. I have a question. How does everyone think a 1999 Gibson Les Paul Classic match up with models produced fom 1990 to 1993? I don't know how I'll see your answers on here, so here's my email: andyjupina@gmail.com. Thanks.
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I actually just bought a Custom Shop Classic Mahogany, relativley rare as far as I can tell. Mahogany top, wine red, long tendon. Real nice $1400 off ebay.

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Les Paul Lassic Custom Shop 1996 Solid Mahogany Body - eBay (item 290342606936 end time Sep-01-09 19:31:21 PDT)
I bought something similar on Ebay, Custom Shop Logo on back of headstock, similar serial, etc. Mine is Ebony with Classic 57s, gold hardware, ABR-1 bridge. So far this is all I have found about the Custom Shop Classics:

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If you find anything else out about these guitars I would love to know!
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