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Unread 07-26-2013, 03:47 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Drop Dead Thread: Screwless Pickguard for R9

Sorry to warm up an old corpse...

Yamano or Gibson deemed my 2007 R9 too pretty for a pickguard and it shipped without the holes. I've no intention of second-guessing them, but I've always liked the idea of a 'Paul with a 'guard.

There's been plenty of talk in the past about Bobby Lee's screwless guards, but AFAIK he's not been able to produce one for historics because of the higher rings.

Has anyone found an alternative?

(Just reflecting on what a 'first world' problem this is...)
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Unread 07-26-2013, 04:18 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Drop Dead Thread: Screwless Pickguard for R9

mmm. You are going to get a lot of people saying you should just screw the holes and put a proper guard on there, it being an R9 and all. I understand not wanting to put holes in the top, but that is how most of them come. Honestly, they still look good (great?) with the guard removed and the holes visible.

My standard came with a guard and I've removed it (and since put it back on about 100 times) - I'm glad it came with it installed because I'm not sure I could have drilled holes in the top, so I empathise with you.

Anyway, I got nuttin for you - sorry!

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Re: Drop Dead Thread: Screwless Pickguard for R9

Look at it as an advantage:

This gives you the opportunity of eventually drilling the holes yourself properly (err... by a qualified tech). By "properly" I mean you'll have the chance of avoiding that small/med sized indent usually made by the pguard's middle screw (use some kind of cushion under it -something that won't react with nitro over the years, like cotton, maybe?)-.

Sometimes when I take an R9's pg off for the first time, I go "darn, wish I had drilled that, could've easily avoided that ding".

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Unread 07-26-2013, 06:30 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Drop Dead Thread: Screwless Pickguard for R9

I'm a guard on guy myself. To me without a guard they look kinda PRSy. I play a Gibson.....
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Re: Drop Dead Thread: Screwless Pickguard for R9

My own take on this: If it comes without a pickguard mounted, then leave pickguard off. If it comes with a pickguard mounted, then leave pickguard on.
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Re: Drop Dead Thread: Screwless Pickguard for R9

I'll swap my R8's pickguard screw holes for your non-screw-holes.
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Re: Drop Dead Thread: Screwless Pickguard for R9

I've run into the same problem with my reissues. Unfortunately I ordered a couple of his guards w/o knowing about the taller rings. (Could'nt really cry ignorance and return them, just didn't seem right). It was awful to play with that guard on since it is so high, just about at the level of the strings themselves, not down on the top's surface like a proper guard. Far as I know there is no alternative w/o drilling when it comes to reissues. All my reissues have traditional guards and I love them.
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Re: Drop Dead Thread: Screwless Pickguard for R9

I have no use for a guard. It actually gets in the way for me.
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Re: Drop Dead Thread: Screwless Pickguard for R9

Try magicians wax....or booger Glue

That stuff that glues on your credit card to the paper when you get it.

Neither one is permanent and it can fall off.

Personally; I would drill, or take it to someone who has the correct drill bit and depth. It needs a pickguard.
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Re: Drop Dead Thread: Screwless Pickguard for R9

Post some pictures of the guitar and all of the MLP members will vote to have the guard on or off!
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I'll do that. And only the MLP members who play it regularly can vote.

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Re: Drop Dead Thread: Screwless Pickguard for R9

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I'll do that. And only the MLP members who play it regularly can vote.

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True, that makes the most sense!
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Re: Drop Dead Thread: Screwless Pickguard for R9

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Sorry to warm up an old corpse...

Yamano or Gibson deemed my 2007 R9 too pretty for a pickguard and it shipped without the holes. I've no intention of second-guessing them, but I've always liked the idea of a 'Paul with a 'guard.

There's been plenty of talk in the past about Bobby Lee's screwless guards, but AFAIK he's not been able to produce one for historics because of the higher rings.

Has anyone found an alternative?

(Just reflecting on what a 'first world' problem this is...)
Matt probably guard on. I never drilled the holes because I had not made up my mind whether I would keep it or not, so I left it as per the way it came from the factory. I knew someone would come along & agonize over this very issue one day.

If I kept it, probably guard on & a bunch of other changes like pickups & harness etc. As you know this guitar is awesome however, IMHO it can be even better.

My 2c FWIW. Good luck.

Cheers, Rudi
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Re: Drop Dead Thread: Screwless Pickguard for R9

Pickguard ON is where I'm heading. But the idea of drilling just makes my eyes water, hence the screwless question. I might do a few with/without mockup shots and mull them over for a few days.

As for the other things: it's a great guitar already but I have to agree with you: pots are a little too tapered (and still a bit noisy) and the pickups are really good, but not incredible (esp. the neck - a little muddy and mid-heavy).
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Re: Drop Dead Thread: Screwless Pickguard for R9

My R0 came without the holes, but a pickguard assembly with it. I just had my guitar guy drill and put the guard on. The only nakedness on a Lester I like is no pup covers (dual creams, or zebras).
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