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Unread 06-30-2012, 09:10 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Re: Collector's Choice #4 Sandy!!

I live in the same town as Tom and we travel to all the guitar shows together. I got to handle the Sandy Proto and it is a great reproduction.I have handled and played the original many times and everything but a few minor details looks really nice . The neck is a really nice representation of Sandy's neck with the acception of the neck wear which is one of the minor details. The flame is amazing on this and Gibson says they will all be of this magnatude or better !

Overall a great guitar and if Gibson makes them anywhere near this (which they should be better) anyone who chooses tto own one will not be disappointed.
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.I have handled and played the original many times and everything but a few minor details looks really nice . The neck is a really nice representation of Sandy's neck with the acception of the neck wear which is one of the minor details. The flame is amazing on this and Gibson says they will all be of this magnatude or better !

Overall a great guitar and if Gibson makes them anywhere near this (which they should be better) anyone who chooses tto own one will not be disappointed.
The 'few minor details' that they miss is bullshit. For the coin that they charge for these CC's, they'd better be spot on, which they aren't. Not by a longshot.
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Unread 06-30-2012, 09:47 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Re: Collector's Choice #4 Sandy!!

This is why they build a prototype and have it checked out by the collector to try to get as close as posible. Sure this guitar is Not Sandy nor will never be Sandy but it will be as close as it can be reproduction wise ! The guys in the custom shop are working very hard on this one !

At this time the Prototype has not been approved as they are trying their best to do an exact replica.
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I live in the same town as Tom and we travel to all the guitar shows together. I got to handle the Sandy Proto and it is a great reproduction.I have handled and played the original many times and everything but a few minor details looks really nice . The neck is a really nice representation of Sandy's neck with the acception of the neck wear which is one of the minor details. The flame is amazing on this and Gibson says they will all be of this magnatude or better !

Overall a great guitar and if Gibson makes them anywhere near this (which they should be better) anyone who chooses tto own one will not be disappointed.
So does that mean that the production run of these will not have any aged neck wear on them, mimicking the original neck wear? I agree it looks killer but if they're out to duplicate, I'd hope that they do some of the wear spots. They did an incredible job with Goldie, so it can be done!
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Yes, It will have all the wear that the original has .
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Re: Collector's Choice #4 Sandy!!

I must be the only one not feeling any love for one of these.
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Love the top!!!!
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That is the coolest cc yet....beautiful guitar
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They should do a vos and an aged version of this guitar....i would love to get one.
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IMHO, the proto has a nearly ideal combination of flame, flecks and grain. This is the only CC that has really blown my skirt up so far.
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I live in the same town as Tom and we travel to all the guitar shows together. I got to handle the Sandy Proto and it is a great reproduction.I have handled and played the original many times and everything but a few minor details looks really nice . The neck is a really nice representation of Sandy's neck with the acception of the neck wear which is one of the minor details. The flame is amazing on this and Gibson says they will all be of this magnatude or better !

Overall a great guitar and if Gibson makes them anywhere near this (which they should be better) anyone who chooses tto own one will not be disappointed.
Thanks for the insight. How would you describe the neck of Sandy regarding Feeling and Dimensions?
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Re: Collector's Choice #4 Sandy!!

My 2c FWIW.

Yes they are expensive for what they are but IMHO all the CC series have been great looking guitars & a more than fair representation of the original.

If I was not doing what I am doing now with a bunch of guitars & looking to buy a Vintage Les Paul, I probably would have bought Tommy's "CC#3 - Babe" by now & I certainly don't mind the look of Sandy.

I know none of these are perfect but for a mass production Gibson Custom Shop guitar they are not half bad.

Personally I'd love to see David Gilmour's 1956 P90 / Gold Top / Bigsby that I posted in the Vintage Section become a CC Series guitar but I suppose since it does not have the "prefect flame" most are fixated on it won't happen..................which is a big shame IMHO.


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Thanks for the insight. How would you describe the neck of Sandy regarding Feeling and Dimensions?

The Sandy proto has a very nice big but not baseball bat of a neck , really nice and comfortable shape ! There were several of us looking at this guitar at one time and we all felt the neck was dead on to Sandy's and just plain nice to play !!
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Re: Collector's Choice #4 Sandy!!

Here is Sandy being held by my daughter in '09.
I've played Sandy a few times and it's wonderful and has one of my fav tops on a Burst.


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Here is Sandy being held by my daughter in '09.
I've played Sandy a few times and it's wonderful and has one of my fav tops on a Burst.



Great pic ! Thanks for sharing ! Two Beauty's in one shot !
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Whats a nib???



Sorry I just hada do it.....

I love Sandy, but will it be in the colors that it was Before it faded? I might have to save some pennies for this one!
A nib is like binding on the fret wire at the edge of the fretboard. It sort forms a capsule at each end, it's a signature trait for Gibson. That's how you can tell if a Gibson has been re-fretted.
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A nib is like binding on the fret wire at the edge of the fretboard. It sort forms a capsule at each end, it's a signature trait for Gibson. That's how you can tell if a Gibson has been re-fretted.
Thanx for sharing! but I was kidding about the nib thing....
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Thanks a lot for sharing!
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So what price point is #4 going to be selling around?
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Sandy my darling...


Out of all the CC so far, she's the one that I want
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So what price point is #4 going to be selling around?
Just found out these will go for around £5800 in the UK - that's around $9000 US but normally not a straight conversion between the two prices so would expect less over the pond.
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Just found out these will go for around £5800 in the UK - that's around $9000 US but normally not a straight conversion between the two prices so would expect less over the pond.
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Thanx for sharing! but I was kidding about the nib thing....
I didn't know so thanks from the NEWB!

I'd say Joe B is going to get himself one of these and this would be cheap for him!
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Massive GAS attack! Is there a doctor in the house?
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It would be interesting to know what percentage of buyers of these CC guitars are members of the two major Les Paul forums versus not. It seems to me that at the kind of prices Gibson charges for these, there would be far fewer potential target buyers than a Gibbons or Page guitar, for example. Me, personally, I love this guitar...and would be far more likely to buy one than a Gibbons or Page (all else being equal from a fingerboard standpoint).


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A NOS cherry burst like the CC #2 would be cool also in the shinny version
for some folks, in a small run of course......
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It would be interesting to know what percentage of buyers of these CC guitars are members of the two major Les Paul forums versus not. It seems to me that at the kind of prices Gibson charges for these, there would be far fewer potential target buyers than a Gibbons or Page guitar, for example. Me, personally, I love this guitar...and would be far more likely to buy one than a Gibbons or Page (all else being equal from a fingerboard standpoint).


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Correct me if I'm off but the Gibbons or Page are more $$$ than these CC guitars. Are you implying that the 'anonymity' of the CC guitars hampers their widespread appeal vs. an aged Gibbons or Page? Sure I like Page, Gibbons, that 'guy' in the top hat, and think their signature guitars are decent, but worthy of the exhorbitant price Gibson is putting on them, no way would I pay their advertised prices for those.

The CC series aren't as exorbitantly priced, (sure they are high but not as much as an aged Page or Gibbons) and are, in my opinion are at their core, an aged replica of a vintage 58-60 Les Paul. The Page's, Gibbons, Green's etc... are all essentially 'vintage' copies, but added price hike with the name attached to them. Page's number 1 or 2, or Gibbon's pearly. They're all essentially 59 les pauls, replicated. That's what the CC series is out to capture. So the Goldie I own wasn't owned by anyone famous per-se, but I don't buy guitars only because it's so and so's signature, or Joe Perry then Slash then Joe Perry again owned a particular 'vintage' guitar. (wonder how much they'll charge for that one when/if they do it).

They way I look at it, if I had buku bucks and found myself in the market for a vintage les paul of that era, I can really care less who has owned it. It's a guitar, I'll buy it to play and make music with. And yes I'm a member of both forums but tend to be more active here so, that's my take on your quandary.

I can honestly care less if the fretboard is one or two piece and 'looks like rosewood but really isn't'. I know plenty of people who are the purist type, which I am not. Not saying that's a bad thing, if that is what floats your boat then cool, but after the day is done, they're guitars, instruments, made to be played in my book. They should do more 'anonymous' vintage instruments, there's a nice book full of them....BOTB...

Signature name has more appeal to the masses but you try to get an aged Page or Gibbons for the price of an aged CC1 or 2, let alone find someone willing to part with one. The potential buyers obviously are there no matter what the price.

I really wanted to save for 'Sandy' but took a gamble on Murphy not possibly aging it, or if supply demands dictated a very small number which might wipe out my chances. Plus a goldie deal literally fell into my lap and I would have been stupid to pass it up. Sandy looks incredible, if I didn't have goldie I'd be going for it.
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