VOS. Bad, good or great

bubba steen · 04-28-2012, 12:01 PM

So, I get the feeling that most people don't like vos lp's, and I don't know why, so, you like them or not?
ps.

Bubbletonic · 04-28-2012, 12:03 PM

Since VOS only applies to Historic guitars you might get better results posting in the historic section rather than the normal Gibson section.

I don't see the problem with VOS, they're slightly cheaper than their gloss counterparts and if you don't like the patina on the finish you can polish back up with virtuoso polish.

EasyAce · 04-28-2012, 12:11 PM

I have two VOS guitars. A little polish and they look (and play, with the VOS film off the necks) marvelous.

And they beat the living hell out of those artificially-aged ratbags that still, somehow, have people having to reel their tongues in from off the floor.

bubba steen · 04-28-2012, 12:11 PM

What's up with VOS lp's. I get a feeling that most people don't like them. So, are they bad, good, or great.
ps.

EasyAce · 04-28-2012, 12:16 PM

I have no complaints about my two.

A little polish and they look (and play, with the film off the necks) wonderfully.

And they beat the living hell out of those artificially-aged ratbags over which enough people, for whatever reasons, are still reeling their tongues off the floor . . .

bubba steen · 04-28-2012, 12:19 PM

I've never played one, so i'm wodering if they are better than standards, trads, classics, etc?

Mike60 · 04-28-2012, 12:22 PM

Suck...big time.

I hate water colours on LP's.

21st Century "nitro"

River · 04-28-2012, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bubba steen

I've never played one, so i'm wodering if they are better than standards, trads, classics, etc?

How do you define "better"?

bubba steen · 04-28-2012, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike60

Suck...big time.

I hate water colours on LP's.

Water colours?

River · 04-28-2012, 12:25 PM

Checking the other, identical, thread I have to ask if you really mean to be asking about VOS or if you're asking about Historics in general. Your other thread is stacking them up against USA models.

DanL · 04-28-2012, 12:28 PM

I love most all the VOS LPs I've played, but I love a lot of LPs, even studios.

SoWhat? · 04-28-2012, 12:29 PM

I got tired of trying to keep my Gloss finiish guitars glossy. Apparently I sweat acid. So, I bought an R9 VOS and never regretted it. Whatever Gibson puts on them to make them look aged, reacts with my sweat to really enhance the aging process. I like it, but I understand others don't.

At least Gibson, for all their other faults, does charge less for VOS than Gloss. Fender is the opposite. You will pay at least $500 more for a Closet Classic, and even more for Relic finish.

AXE · 04-28-2012, 12:30 PM

Most folks don't even know what VOS really means.

It doesn't mean spooged material smeared on guitars.

your idol · 04-28-2012, 12:30 PM

This poll really need posted twice?

AXE · 04-28-2012, 12:32 PM

He is a buddy of stevejoshpurpleguitargylay.

bubba steen · 04-28-2012, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by River

Checking the other, identical, thread I have to ask if you really mean to be asking about VOS or if you're asking about Historics in general. Your other thread is stacking them up against USA models.

I am talking about VOS.

bubba steen · 04-28-2012, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by your idol

This poll really need posted twice?

yes

your idol · 04-28-2012, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bubba steen

yes

Obviously

AXE · 04-28-2012, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bubba steen

I am talking about VOS.

Do you even know what VOS means?

River · 04-28-2012, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bubba steen

I am talking about VOS.

Why compare them to USA models, while not comparing non-VOS Historics?

ddroz60lp · 04-28-2012, 12:43 PM

Not better, or worse. Different.I like having the extended neck tenon.I am also a fan of the Abr-1 bridge. In my opinion,this is better.The whole point is to get a Historic a bit cheaper than a gloss,and get the look of a broken in player.The V.O.S. finish can be buffed out.I have had two, and disliked the finish on one and loved the other.When guitar players get enough experience,they begin to build their style.In order to feel comfortable with that style,the begin to build a list of prerequisites that their gear should have. There have been Standards that are on par with the custom shop or even better.I have played some great ones, some with fantastic tops as well. I owned a 58 V.O.S. that was a real dud.I mean it SUCKED in comparison to others I tried.I traded her for my baby and never looked back. We have to look beyond our stereotypes and look at each example on their own merit.You could be losing a great opportunity to save some casholla and really bond with a winner. I prefer the neck,at least to be polished.Just me.

bubba steen · 04-28-2012, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AXE

Do you even know what VOS means?

Yes. VOS models look more worn in (lacquer finish is "softer," nickel probably looks a bit oxidized, etc.).
VOS means Vintage original spec, and they are historically correct

Sharky · 04-28-2012, 12:48 PM

first of all i liked the VOS look more than the glossy, sometimes glass like surface. A/B-ing in the store gave me the impression that the VOS were a little bit more vibey, open sounding but i don't claim that to be the rule. That was maybe just the guitars in that particular store i was in.

The little sticky whatever on the neck completely dissapeared in some hours of playing and now the neck is really smooth with a very thin laquer coating and yes, same with mine, the aging starts already. Neck is starting to fade a little and also the aged hardware looks nice to my eyes. But i am no fan of shiny part anyway, so VOS is just great for me.

On the other hand i really adore some pictures shown here in the forum with high glossy guitars, buffed up to a ultra gloss which seems to reinforce the color, flames and grain.

At the end of the day it comes down to a matter of taste

AXE · 04-28-2012, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bubba steen

Yes. A VOS is made like they were made way back in time

And there you have it folks!

Lungo · 04-28-2012, 12:50 PM

Mine sounds so good I think a spirit lives inside of it.

EasyAce · 04-28-2012, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bubba steen

What's up with VOS lp's. I get a feeling that most people don't like them. So, are they bad, good, or great.
ps.

OK, you asked for it:

VOS R6 . . .

VOS R9 (Bloomfield burst) . . .

Both great guitars.

bubba steen · 04-28-2012, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AXE

And there you have it folks!

I mean, they are historically correct, so

Murfdog · 04-28-2012, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AXE

And there you have it folks!

He got it right. VOS means they are built like they were way back in time....like in the 1700s.

Mike60 · 04-28-2012, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Murfdog

... VOS means they are built like they were way back in time....like in the 1700s.

George Washington had a VOS?

bubba steen · 04-28-2012, 01:12 PM

OK, so I don't quite know what it means, but that is not what this thread is about. I am not planning to get one, so why should i know what it means.

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04-28-2012, 12:01 PM	#1 (permalink)
bubba steen Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: mylespaul.com Posts: 492 Thanks: 5 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	VOS. Bad, good or great So, I get the feeling that most people don't like vos lp's, and I don't know why, so, you like them or not? ps. __________________ - Bubba

04-28-2012, 12:03 PM	#2 (permalink)
Bubbletonic Bartlett Retrospec Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sheffield, England. Posts: 1,380 Thanks: 7 Thanked 41 Times in 15 Posts	Re: VOS. Bad, good or great Since VOS only applies to Historic guitars you might get better results posting in the historic section rather than the normal Gibson section. I don't see the problem with VOS, they're slightly cheaper than their gloss counterparts and if you don't like the patina on the finish you can polish back up with virtuoso polish. __________________ Bubbletonic on Youtube:www.youtube.com/bubbletonic

04-28-2012, 12:11 PM	#3 (permalink)
EasyAce Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 7,679 Thanks: 95 Thanked 141 Times in 55 Posts	Re: VOS. Bad, good or great I have two VOS guitars. A little polish and they look (and play, with the VOS film off the necks) marvelous. And they beat the living hell out of those artificially-aged ratbags that still, somehow, have people having to reel their tongues in from off the floor. duck2k, Robert Arthur, rokgod1 and 2 others like this. __________________ R9, R6, Classic Antique; two Fender amps (Twin Reverb, Deluxe Reverb 65RI); Boss volume pedal; Boss equaliser pedal *When I’m singing blues, I’m singing life. People that can’t stand to listen to the blues, they’ve got to be phonies.---Etta James Without a guitar, I'm like a poet with no hands.---Mike Bloomfield. [If it wasn’t] for the blues, we’d all be sitting around sipping tea and listening to chamber music.*---Mickey Baker. http://soundcloud.com/easyace/my-home-is-where-my-heart-is

04-28-2012, 12:11 PM	#4 (permalink)
bubba steen Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: mylespaul.com Posts: 492 Thanks: 5 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	VOS. Bad, good or great What's up with VOS lp's. I get a feeling that most people don't like them. So, are they bad, good, or great. ps. __________________ - Bubba

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04-28-2012, 12:16 PM	#5 (permalink)
EasyAce Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 7,679 Thanks: 95 Thanked 141 Times in 55 Posts	Re: VOS. Bad, good or great I have no complaints about my two. A little polish and they look (and play, with the film off the necks) wonderfully. And they beat the living hell out of those artificially-aged ratbags over which enough people, for whatever reasons, are still reeling their tongues off the floor . . . 57goldie, Robert Arthur and joedonner2001 like this. __________________ R9, R6, Classic Antique; two Fender amps (Twin Reverb, Deluxe Reverb 65RI); Boss volume pedal; Boss equaliser pedal *When I’m singing blues, I’m singing life. People that can’t stand to listen to the blues, they’ve got to be phonies.---Etta James Without a guitar, I'm like a poet with no hands.---Mike Bloomfield. [If it wasn’t] for the blues, we’d all be sitting around sipping tea and listening to chamber music.*---Mickey Baker. http://soundcloud.com/easyace/my-home-is-where-my-heart-is

04-28-2012, 12:19 PM	#6 (permalink)
bubba steen Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: mylespaul.com Posts: 492 Thanks: 5 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Re: VOS. Bad, good or great I've never played one, so i'm wodering if they are better than standards, trads, classics, etc? __________________ - Bubba

04-28-2012, 12:22 PM	#7 (permalink)
Mike60 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Reflectorland Posts: 8,441 Thanks: 0 Thanked 111 Times in 36 Posts	Re: VOS. Bad, good or great Suck...big time. I hate water colours on LP's. 21st Century "nitro"

04-28-2012, 12:25 PM	#10 (permalink)
River Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Rural Colorado, USA Posts: 54,534 Thanks: 745 Thanked 847 Times in 77 Posts	Re: VOS. Bad, good or great Checking the other, identical, thread I have to ask if you really mean to be asking about VOS or if you're asking about Historics in general. Your other thread is stacking them up against USA models. __________________ River Bottom Blues Band - Music Home of the River Bottom Blues Band

04-28-2012, 12:28 PM	#11 (permalink)
DanL Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 780 Thanks: 0 Thanked 12 Times in 6 Posts	Re: VOS. Bad, good or great I love most all the VOS LPs I've played, but I love a lot of LPs, even studios. __________________ Danny Gator and The Gator Den

04-28-2012, 12:29 PM	#12 (permalink)
SoWhat? Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Carolina Posts: 3,713 Thanks: 176 Thanked 52 Times in 18 Posts	Re: VOS. Bad, good or great I got tired of trying to keep my Gloss finiish guitars glossy. Apparently I sweat acid. So, I bought an R9 VOS and never regretted it. Whatever Gibson puts on them to make them look aged, reacts with my sweat to really enhance the aging process. I like it, but I understand others don't. At least Gibson, for all their other faults, does charge less for VOS than Gloss. Fender is the opposite. You will pay at least $500 more for a Closet Classic, and even more for Relic finish. 57goldie, River, Robert Arthur and 2 others like this. __________________ "They say I'm lazy, but it takes all my time." - Joe Walsh

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AXE Banned Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Village Of The Damned. Posts: 19,047 Thanks: 1,225 Thanked 677 Times in 155 Posts	Re: VOS. Bad, good or great Most folks don't even know what VOS really means. It doesn't mean spooged material smeared on guitars.

04-28-2012, 12:32 PM	#15 (permalink)
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04-28-2012, 12:43 PM	#21 (permalink)
ddroz60lp Bartlett Retrospec Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: St Charles, Il Posts: 736 Thanks: 6 Thanked 6 Times in 1 Post	Re: VOS. Bad, good or great Not better, or worse. Different.I like having the extended neck tenon.I am also a fan of the Abr-1 bridge. In my opinion,this is better.The whole point is to get a Historic a bit cheaper than a gloss,and get the look of a broken in player.The V.O.S. finish can be buffed out.I have had two, and disliked the finish on one and loved the other.When guitar players get enough experience,they begin to build their style.In order to feel comfortable with that style,the begin to build a list of prerequisites that their gear should have. There have been Standards that are on par with the custom shop or even better.I have played some great ones, some with fantastic tops as well. I owned a 58 V.O.S. that was a real dud.I mean it SUCKED in comparison to others I tried.I traded her for my baby and never looked back. We have to look beyond our stereotypes and look at each example on their own merit.You could be losing a great opportunity to save some casholla and really bond with a winner. I prefer the neck,at least to be polished.Just me. Spaceacex likes this. __________________ Gibson 2007 Les Paul Plaintop 60 reissue Lemonburst Martin 2011 000 MMV Bulldog Bodies Les Paul Replica Faded Cherryburst Gibson 2002 Sg Special Gibson 2012 Les Paul Junior Special Kiralu Kookscaster Custom Allparts Tele Relic Fender 2006 S.R.V. Silver Creek T-160 Peavey Classic 50 4x10.

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Sharky Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Frankfurt/Main Germany Posts: 1,554 Thanks: 56 Thanked 16 Times in 6 Posts	Re: VOS. Bad, good or great first of all i liked the VOS look more than the glossy, sometimes glass like surface. A/B-ing in the store gave me the impression that the VOS were a little bit more vibey, open sounding but i don't claim that to be the rule. That was maybe just the guitars in that particular store i was in. The little sticky whatever on the neck completely dissapeared in some hours of playing and now the neck is really smooth with a very thin laquer coating and yes, same with mine, the aging starts already. Neck is starting to fade a little and also the aged hardware looks nice to my eyes. But i am no fan of shiny part anyway, so VOS is just great for me. On the other hand i really adore some pictures shown here in the forum with high glossy guitars, buffed up to a ultra gloss which seems to reinforce the color, flames and grain. At the end of the day it comes down to a matter of taste Robert Arthur, Sct13 and SoWhat? like this.

04-28-2012, 12:50 PM	#25 (permalink)
Lungo Bartlett Retrospec Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Anchorage Alaska Posts: 3,642 Thanks: 57 Thanked 12 Times in 5 Posts	Re: VOS. Bad, good or great Mine sounds so good I think a spirit lives inside of it. River, Mantis, 57VOS and 1 others like this.

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bubba steen Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: mylespaul.com Posts: 492 Thanks: 5 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Re: VOS. Bad, good or great OK, so I don't quite know what it means, but that is not what this thread is about. I am not planning to get one, so why should i know what it means. __________________ - Bubba

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