No R9's on the Gibson 2012 Price List

[Occultapus]

Are we assuming that the percieved logic behind withdrawing R9's in 2012 is to do with the 'Rosewood Raids'? If so, why only the R9's and not other re-issues?

Or is there some other possible thinking behind this?

[Bear]

No. They added $3k and call them the Collectors Choice #2 this year.

[Outlaw Josey Wales]

Just add for the Murphy aging and royalty fee for the owner of the Goldie
for the scan and trouble and there is your answer.

Why do you want to group the Goldie as a regular historic pricing and say
just add 3K. The $2300 extra over a regular historic is for the Murphy aging
and a special run.

Some people just don't get it !!!

I'm sure you can get a certain Norlin re-issue VOS for less coin though.

Better yet, just wait on a 2012 and good luck on a good deal.

[FUS44]

I still don't get the Norlin Reissues. You can get a real one for less than they are asking.

[27sauce]

Originally Posted by FUS44

I still don't get the Norlin Reissues. You can get a real one for less than they are asking.

True, but Gibson doesn't make any money when you buy an old one. Duh

[FUS44]

Originally Posted by 27sauce

True, but Gibson doesn't make any money when you buy an old one. Duh

Thanks for the economics lesson, but I was looking at it from a consumer standpoint.
Usually, you buy a reissue because the originals are hard to find or too expensive.
Norlins are neither....

[27sauce]

Originally Posted by FUS44

Thanks for the economics lesson, but I was looking at it from a consumer standpoint.
Usually, you buy a reissue because the originals are hard to find or too expensive.
Norlins are neither....

Which Norlin are they reissuing

[Luckynumber3]

Originally Posted by 27sauce

Which Norlin are they reissuing

There was a norlin custom reissue on ebay posted a few days and it cost like $4000. There is also an l6s reissue for $1500, and there are probably more that I am forgetting...

[FUS44]

Originally Posted by 27sauce

Which Norlin are they reissuing

How about we ignore the 68 Custom and go straight to this:

Gibson Custom Les Paul 1970's Reissue Les Paul Custom 3 Pickups New 2011 | eBay

[tspoon5150]

Originally Posted by FUS44

Thanks for the economics lesson, but I was looking at it from a consumer standpoint.
Usually, you buy a reissue because the originals are hard to find or too expensive.
Norlins are neither....

+1

Thank You, I thought I was the only one that figured that out......

Just don't go to the Ace section and say that, or you will get you
banned for life......LOL

I think those are a dime a dozen for the price of a regular Historic.....

Maybe because Gibson is running out of Rosewood and have to resort
to Ebony fretboards, that is why they are pushing Customs
and other lower lines with baked maple......

[27sauce]

Originally Posted by FUS44

How about we ignore the 68 Custom and go straight to this:

Gibson Custom Les Paul 1970's Reissue Les Paul Custom 3 Pickups New 2011 | eBay

Wow cool, I wasnt aware. Its probably a much better guitar than the real thing, I'm all for it. FWIW when the Junior and Special RI's came out they were pretty close in price to originals. They're just making new versions of old guitars, whats the big deal?

A '68 isnt a Norlin BTW

[jppr8]

Originally Posted by CustomBucker

People speak their minds and opinions here in the USA. Most of it is fact.
That is the purpose of this forum. Lots of folks get all out of shape
when we don't always agree here. If you don't agree or can't stand
an open discussion, then you have a problem.

Seems the cynicism and sarcasm is coming from the foreigners nowdays.

Maybe you should hang in the ACE re-issue section and talk about your
dream Norlin guitar.

Wow! Well, despite you turning this into something about country and state, I'm not going to pick on the USA or pick on Texas. I'm not even going to pick on you.

Have a nice day.

[sdlogan9]

Are there 2012 R9's being made? I am kinda confused here??

[AxeBuilder]

Originally Posted by markguitar

No '59 reissues of any kind listed on the new 2012 Gibson Custom Shop price list

Can you share this price list with us?

[Sharky]

Originally Posted by sdlogan9

Are there 2012 R9's being made? I am kinda confused here??

Hi all,

my first posting here and already a question. I found this forum by frisking the web for Gibson R9 and i am glad i came here but also sad because i spent the last few hours reading an staring at the pictures of the different displayed Pauls. I am so jealous on most of you that have stunning guitars, regardless old or newer models, especially the original bursts off course.

Knowing that i will never own such a piece i am looking for a remake which can get me as close as possible to the old ones. But searching the online shops of all the dealers confuses me more than it gives me a safe basis for a decission that i urge myself to make. I'm almost 51 in a few weeks and did not play guitar for the past somewhat 30 years as i sold my original 61 SG for a ridiculous sum of Deutschmarks and now i cannot wait any longer to have another original in my hand, a Les Paul this time.

So i was checking the Gibson website as well and they make a differnce between the reissues and the for example 58/59 LP V.O.S.. How can i find out at the local dealer what an original R9 is? Is it the R at the beginning of the SN (the 58/59 LP V.O.S. only have the digits 8 or 9 at the beginning) or what else must be looked for?

I would really love to buy a new one but as it seems there is no new production in 2012, so 2011 must be the last year of production. Is the Date Of Manufacturing noted in the COA or written on any hangtags or maybe even stamped into the backside of the headstock as ist is on newer guitars like the studio tributes?

Please be patient with me, more than 30 years of absence to the scene left a huge gap in flow of information but i am looking forward becoming more and more experienced and hope that i can participate from your expertise as well.

Is this a so called R9 or not? I love the plaintops: http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Elec.../Features.aspx

[doitforvangogh]

With as many "1959" sig models as they produce, it's a wonder they even bother with the "standard" R9 anymore. Maybe this is their new paradigm. Nothing but "sig" and "inspired by" R9s. Hmmmm.

[nicolasrivera]

Originally Posted by Sharky

Hi all,

my first posting here and already a question. I found this forum by frisking the web for Gibson R9 and i am glad i came here but also sad because i spent the last few hours reading an staring at the pictures of the different displayed Pauls. I am so jealous on most of you that have stunning guitars, regardless old or newer models, especially the original bursts off course.

Knowing that i will never own such a piece i am looking for a remake which can get me as close as possible to the old ones. But searching the online shops of all the dealers confuses me more than it gives me a safe basis for a decission that i urge myself to make. I'm almost 51 in a few weeks and did not play guitar for the past somewhat 30 years as i sold my original 61 SG for a ridiculous sum of Deutschmarks and now i cannot wait any longer to have another original in my hand, a Les Paul this time.

So i was checking the Gibson website as well and they make a differnce between the reissues and the for example 58/59 LP V.O.S.. How can i find out at the local dealer what an original R9 is? Is it the R at the beginning of the SN (the 58/59 LP V.O.S. only have the digits 8 or 9 at the beginning) or what else must be looked for?

I would really love to buy a new one but as it seems there is no new production in 2012, so 2011 must be the last year of production. Is the Date Of Manufacturing noted in the COA or written on any hangtags or maybe even stamped into the backside of the headstock as ist is on newer guitars like the studio tributes?

Please be patient with me, more than 30 years of absence to the scene left a huge gap in flow of information but i am looking forward becoming more and more experienced and hope that i can participate from your experience as well.

Is this a so called R9 or not? I love the plaintops: Gibson.com: Gibson Custom 1959 Les Paul Standard VOS

Hello and welcome.

Any les paul historic from the custom shop is as close to the originals as Gibson is willing to get, newer models like 2011 are the closest because Gibson has decided to offer little upgrades every year that gets you closer to a vintage LP. but that does not mean that a 2011 is better sounding the a 2000 model!

There is a huge market for used instruments, you can find almost any model at a lower asking price then a store, but, the more beautiful and flami the top is the more money they ask.

We have a sticky thread that shows most of the changed from year to year, pleas check it out for further reading.

[Sharky]

Originally Posted by nicolasrivera

Hello and welcome.


We have a sticky thread that shows most of the changed from year to year, pleas check it out for further reading.

Thank you for your Welcome.

I browsed that sticky thread more or less thoroughly and this is for sure a flood of new information for me. But.... what i still can not figure out is the difference between the serial numbers starting with the letter R and those which start with the digit 8, 9 or 0. Can somebody enlighten me?

[The Refugee]

[b3john]

Originally Posted by Sharky

Thank you for your Welcome.

I browsed that sticky thread more or less thoroughly and this is for sure a flood of new information for me. But.... what i still can not figure out is the difference between the serial numbers starting with the letter R and those which start with the digit 8, 9 or 0. Can somebody enlighten me?

R8 = '58 Historic Reissue Les Paul
R9 = '59 Historic Reissue Les Paul
R0 = '60 Historic Reissue Les Paul

The R9 is the reissue considered by many to be the holy grail.

Read this thread started by R9, specifically the first post: Gibson Les Paul 101

[nicolasrivera]

Originally Posted by Sharky

Thank you for your Welcome.

I browsed that sticky thread more or less thoroughly and this is for sure a flood of new information for me. But.... what i still can not figure out is the difference between the serial numbers starting with the letter R and those which start with the digit 8, 9 or 0. Can somebody enlighten me?

Originally Posted by b3john

R8 = '58 Historic Reissue Les Paul
R9 = '59 Historic Reissue Les Paul
R0 = '60 Historic Reissue Les Paul

The R9 is the reissue considered by many to be the holy grail.

Read this thread started by R9, specifically the first post: Gibson Les Paul 101

What he said!!.

On the back of the headstock you will see a digit serial number with no letter, the R is marked on most models inside the electronic cavity.

[BillB1960]

Originally Posted by Sharky

Thank you for your Welcome.

I browsed that sticky thread more or less thoroughly and this is for sure a flood of new information for me. But.... what i still can not figure out is the difference between the serial numbers starting with the letter R and those which start with the digit 8, 9 or 0. Can somebody enlighten me?

There are no serial numbers starting with the letter "R". All of the serial numbers start with the last number of the year the original guitar was produced. The "R" stands for Reissue as in Historic Reissue and is generally used mostly by internet forums.

[cooljuk]

Originally Posted by BillB1960

There are no serial numbers starting with the letter "R". All of the serial numbers start with the last number of the year the original guitar was produced. The "R" stands for Reissue as in Historic Reissue and is generally used mostly by internet forums.

Well, the R8, R9, etc. is actually stamped in the control cavity.

G0 is a 1960 reissue specifically made for sale by Guitar Center stores, and they do have a "G" printed on the back of the headstock preceding the serial. I don't know if the control cavity stamp reads "G0" or "R0" though. It would be interesting to hear back about that from someone who has one.

[nicolasrivera]

For the record, both of my R5's don't have the R stamped, just the number 5 in the control cavity.

[cooljuk]

Originally Posted by nicolasrivera

For the record, both of my R5's don't have the R stamped, just the number 5 in the control cavity.

ohshit!

That's interesting.




This silly thread is actually starting to become useful!

[BillB1960]

Originally Posted by cooljuk

Well, the R8, R9, etc. is actually stamped in the control cavity.

G0 is a 1960 reissue specifically made for sale by Guitar Center stores, and they do have a "G" printed on the back of the headstock preceding the serial. I don't know if the control cavity stamp reads "G0" or "R0" though. It would be interesting to hear back about that from someone who has one.

My G0 has a stamp in the control cavity, it says "R0".

[Guitar Goober]

Originally Posted by Sharky

Is the Date Of Manufacturing noted in the COA or written on any hangtags or maybe even stamped into the backside of the headstock as ist is on newer guitars like the studio tributes?

Originally Posted by b3john

R8 = '58 Historic Reissue Les Paul
R9 = '59 Historic Reissue Les Paul
R0 = '60 Historic Reissue Les Paul

The R9 is the reissue considered by many to be the holy grail.

Read this thread started by R9, specifically the first post: Gibson Les Paul 101

I'll add to this that the serial number on the headstock for these reissues will be <reissue year><last digit of year of manufacture>XXXX

There shouldn't be an "R" in the serial number.

So for example an R9 made in 2010 will be 90XXXX and an R8 made in 2009 will be 89XXXX.

[doitforvangogh]

Originally Posted by BillB1960

My G0 has a stamp in the control cavity, it says "R0".

Mine too.

[joedonner2001]

Originally Posted by markguitar

No '59 reissues of any kind listed on the new 2012 Gibson Custom Shop price list

Any chance of giving us a peek at the entire price list? I'd be very interested to see what's on there, for future reference.

[Sharky]

Originally Posted by BillB1960

There are no serial numbers starting with the letter "R". All of the serial numbers start with the last number of the year the original guitar was produced. The "R" stands for Reissue as in Historic Reissue and is generally used mostly by internet forums.

strange! I was so sure that i have seen pictures of the SN starting with an R but looking it up now, i can not find one of it so you should be right.

On the Gibson website guitars are named differently. There are 1959 Les Paul Reissues and 1959 Les Paul Standard VOS without saying reissue. Are those both called R9?