What is it about Historics?

BillB1960 · 04-12-2011, 10:02 PM

So I've been working on this 1 blues riff for what seems like weeks...OK it has been weeks. I've played it on literally 4 different guitars and struggled with it on all of them. So I pull out the G0 and plug it in this afternoon. BANG! The same @#$*&^% riff just flows off my fingers onto the fretboard and through the amp...almost effortless! I try it again...same thing! Every time...whatever Gibson does with these things it's f'n magic as far as I'm concerned.

I know Historics are expensive but damn...they're worth it!

ryanmichael95 · 04-12-2011, 10:07 PM

Yes they are...mine plays like a dream, and is why I couldn't stop going to the shop to play it over and over again until I took it home.

HOT-BRIT · 04-12-2011, 10:12 PM

the built in Mojo

duck2k · 04-12-2011, 10:16 PM

They give me GAS!

Tim Plains · 04-12-2011, 10:16 PM

They wouldn't be so expensive if you could stop at one.

DDDave · 04-12-2011, 10:20 PM

Mine loves the blues too...

You should post a tab of the Riff you were doin'.

River · 04-12-2011, 10:26 PM

Happy for ya, Bill, srsly.

I know what it is about mine, for me. But sometimes, I get "it" elsewhere. Which proves to me it's not the pots, caps, pickups, finish, board, or anything I can nail down. It's the whole package. And also explains why I'm up to nine quite-different guitars, none of which I can even consider letting go!

As coincidence would have it, today's an R8 day. So I'm on the same wavelength. I went and put new strings on her this afternoon, and holy jumping toaster cakes! I can do no wrong.

River · 04-12-2011, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DDDave

Mine loves the blues too...

You should post a tab of the Riff you were doin'.

Great idea! Let's gang up on it.

57goldie · 04-13-2011, 01:17 AM

once you've played one, there is no turning back

BEDLAM_1 · 04-13-2011, 02:01 AM

Im with river..

TAB!!...TAB!!

chriswallace85 · 04-13-2011, 02:43 AM

We want the riff, gotta have that riff!

BillB1960 · 04-13-2011, 10:27 AM

Dunno how I'd go about posting a tab to the forum. I have it in a .pdf but it's 3 pages long.

nicolasrivera · 04-13-2011, 10:33 AM

I know what you mean, but then again its all about how a guitar is set up, non of my guitars came exactly how i like them, i really spend a lot of time tweaking the neck and bridge and saddles just right for me and i can say that all my guitars play exactly as i want them.

River · 04-13-2011, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillB1960

Dunno how I'd go about posting a tab to the forum. I have it in a .pdf but it's 3 pages long.

Lotsa options. Acrobat lets you "save as" a JPG.

River · 04-13-2011, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by nicolasrivera

I know what you mean, but then again its all about how a guitar is set up, non of my guitars came exactly how i like them, i really spend a lot of time tweaking the neck and bridge and saddles just right for me and i can say that all my guitars play exactly as i want them.

Me too. I was lowering the action on my R8 when Bill posted this. Nonetheless, there's something special about a beloved Historic. Sometimes I prefer vintage, other times funky, but I'm going through one of my Historic periods at present.

1959burst · 04-13-2011, 10:44 AM

after playing historics i can't go back to standard production les pauls,v's,explorers....etc they make the others sound and play like dead wood...i.m.o.

mfolet · 04-13-2011, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillB1960

So I've been working on this 1 blues riff for what seems like weeks...OK it has been weeks. I've played it on literally 4 different guitars and struggled with it on all of them. So I pull out the G0 and plug it in this afternoon. BANG! The same @#$*&^% riff just flows off my fingers onto the fretboard and through the amp...almost effortless! I try it again...same thing! Every time...whatever Gibson does with these things it's f'n magic as far as I'm concerned.

I know Historics are expensive but damn...they're worth it!

Shhhhhh,its suppose to be a secret,haha

BillB1960 · 04-13-2011, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by River

Lotsa options. Acrobat lets you "save as" a JPG.

McLovin · 04-13-2011, 12:09 PM

it's because they cost more. A well known psychologist did a research study that proved the brain releases more endorphins when you pay higher prices for an item that in reality is worth much less. It's a natural safety mechanism in the brain that protects you from feeling like an idiot when you get ripped off. Or maybe it's the good wood.

(This should be in purple.)

EasyAce · 04-13-2011, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DDDave

Mine loves the blues too...

. . .

So does mine . . .

River · 04-13-2011, 04:44 PM

Oooh, Bill - a four-noter. That'll be fun.

BSeneca · 04-13-2011, 05:03 PM

There is just "something" about them. I have owned over 20 les pauls (16 USA 4 historics) and maybe its the neck shape?, tone? I really dont know but I consider myself a capable and decent player and I am able to play with more precision and fluidity on my historics. I too can never go back to standards or classics, but I was playing my firebird today which is USA, and was fine with it. Different animal, thinner neck but I was O.K. with that just not USA Les Pauls. Easy Ace I never tire of seeing you R6. ROCK ON DUDE!!

DDDave · 04-13-2011, 07:49 PM

Hey Bill, Thanks for the music(4 note blues) Just got finshed playin a round each for the Rhythm, and Solo parts. Ahh...I needed that.

And EASYACE I wish i could swap my R8 with ya, for a weekend so i could give those P-90s a go-around.

HOT-BRIT · 04-13-2011, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R9.

They wouldn't be so expensive if you could stop at one.

Yes it started with one!
now I have four!

River · 04-13-2011, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HOT-BRIT

Yes it started with one!
now I have four!

Ya know, I doubt I'll ever have but the one. Not because I appreciate them any less than anyone else, though. I just appreciate variety even more.

In fact, I think I'm going to work on Bill's tab on my Tele...

riffsmachine · 04-14-2011, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McLovin

it's because they cost more. A well known psychologist did a research study that proved the brain releases more endorphins when you pay higher prices for an item that in reality is worth much less. It's a natural safety mechanism in the brain that protects you from feeling like an idiot when you get ripped off. Or maybe it's the good wood.

(This should be in purple.)

Another well know psychologist did a research study that proved a large increase of endorphins when a subject bashes an historical guitar.

It's, of course, a natural safety mechanism located deep into the brain that protect these subjects from feeling ,after all, they have bribed a cheap guitar compared to an historical.

As an idiot i love Norlins, historics, signatures and some Gibson USA Sg.

As an idiot, to protect myself, i use to play sometimes a few cheap, woodpressed guitars. So when i back to the historic, or Norlin, i get my daily endorphins dosage.

McLovin · 04-14-2011, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riffsmachine

Another well know psychologist did a research study that proved a large increase of endorphins when a subject bashes an historical guitar.

It's, of course, a natural safety mechanism located deep into the brain that protect these subjects from feeling ,after all, they have bribed a cheap guitar compared to an historical.

As an idiot i love Norlins, historics, signatures and some Gibson USA Sg.

As an idiot, to protect myself, i use to play sometimes a few cheap, woodpressed guitars. So when i back to the historic, or Norlin, i get my daily endorphins dosage.

I'd probably make about as much sense if i wrote this in Italian.

FennRx · 04-14-2011, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McLovin

it's because they cost more. A well known psychologist did a research study that proved the brain releases more endorphins when you pay higher prices for an item that in reality is worth much less. It's a natural safety mechanism in the brain that protects you from feeling like an idiot when you get ripped off. Or maybe it's the good wood.

(This should be in purple.)

there is certainly a component of psychology involved. however, while not statistically significant, I have experienced Historics that sounded like poop compared to USA LPs on the same rack. the only thing i can come up with is that the good historics will sound better than the good USAs. placebo effect? quite possibly.

i will also add that my wife could hear the difference when i bought my R8. i figured the difference was in my head, but she actually stopped txting and said "if you're going to buy a guitar tonight, buy that one. it sounds way better than 50 you've played so far."

VastHorizon · 04-14-2011, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FennRx

i will also add that my wife could hear the difference when i bought my R8. i figured the difference was in my head, but she actually stopped txting and said "if you're going to buy a guitar tonight, buy that one. it sounds way better than 50 you've played so far."

Fenn, were you even plugged into an amp that time?

meanmud · 04-14-2011, 11:47 AM

When I picked out my R9, I had to go through at least 15-20 to find a great one, they were all, for the most part, OK, but not GREAT. Of all of the shops I visited, there was only one that understood why I didn't want to play it through an amp....lol

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BillB1960 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Stumptown Posts: 15,926 Thanks: 236 Thanked 236 Times in 92 Posts	What is it about Historics? So I've been working on this 1 blues riff for what seems like weeks...OK it has been weeks. I've played it on literally 4 different guitars and struggled with it on all of them. So I pull out the G0 and plug it in this afternoon. BANG! The same @#$&^% riff just flows off my fingers onto the fretboard and through the amp...almost effortless! I try it again...same thing! Every time...whatever Gibson does with these things it's f'n magic as far as I'm concerned. I know Historics are expensive but damn...they're worth it! dwagar, hardrivr, Curlymaple and 4 others like this. __________________ Gibson LP Classic Antique Fireburst GOTW #2 Bolt Electric Vintage P'ups* Gibson LP G0 Darkburst GuitarForce LOTB P'ups Gibson LP Special TV Yellow Fralin P-90s Gibson Limited Edition Flying V 57 Classics Fender Limited Edition Strat Fender American Ash 8502 Telecaster Fender Bullet Deluxe S2 Ibanez AR-250 SD Phat Cats Epiphone DR500M Masterbilt Epiphone 58 Reissue Korina Flying V *"It ain't what they call you, it's what you answer to"*

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ryanmichael95 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 565 Thanks: 30 Thanked 28 Times in 4 Posts	Re: What is it about Historics? Yes they are...mine plays like a dream, and is why I couldn't stop going to the shop to play it over and over again until I took it home. __________________ gibson r9 (iced tea w/Bare Knuckle pups) gibson SG classic faded egnater renegade 65 epiphone valve jr. 2010 mesa boogie dual rectifier multi-watt soldano hot rod 50+ kustom 412 u.s.a. cab w/WGS ET-65's/Veteran 30's

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DDDave Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 245 Thanks: 11 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: What is it about Historics? Mine loves the blues too... You should post a tab of the Riff you were doin'.

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River Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Rural Colorado, USA Posts: 54,495 Thanks: 744 Thanked 847 Times in 77 Posts	Re: What is it about Historics? Happy for ya, Bill, srsly. I know what it is about mine, for me. But sometimes, I get "it" elsewhere. Which proves to me it's not the pots, caps, pickups, finish, board, or anything I can nail down. It's the whole package. And also explains why I'm up to nine quite-different guitars, none of which I can even consider letting go! As coincidence would have it, today's an R8 day. So I'm on the same wavelength. I went and put new strings on her this afternoon, and holy jumping toaster cakes! I can do no wrong. __________________ River Bottom Blues Band - Music Home of the River Bottom Blues Band

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BillB1960 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Stumptown Posts: 15,926 Thanks: 236 Thanked 236 Times in 92 Posts	Re: What is it about Historics? Dunno how I'd go about posting a tab to the forum. I have it in a .pdf but it's 3 pages long. __________________ Gibson LP Classic Antique Fireburst GOTW #2 Bolt Electric Vintage P'ups Gibson LP G0 Darkburst GuitarForce LOTB P'ups Gibson LP Special TV Yellow Fralin P-90s Gibson Limited Edition Flying V 57 Classics Fender Limited Edition Strat Fender American Ash 8502 Telecaster Fender Bullet Deluxe S2 Ibanez AR-250 SD Phat Cats Epiphone DR500M Masterbilt Epiphone 58 Reissue Korina Flying V *"It ain't what they call you, it's what you answer to"*

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nicolasrivera Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Honduras Posts: 16,586 Thanks: 2,081 Thanked 900 Times in 238 Posts	Re: What is it about Historics? I know what you mean, but then again its all about how a guitar is set up, non of my guitars came exactly how i like them, i really spend a lot of time tweaking the neck and bridge and saddles just right for me and i can say that all my guitars play exactly as i want them.

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McLovin Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: southern, ca. USA Posts: 2,034 Thanks: 84 Thanked 23 Times in 12 Posts	Re: What is it about Historics? it's because they cost more. A well known psychologist did a research study that proved the brain releases more endorphins when you pay higher prices for an item that in reality is worth much less. It's a natural safety mechanism in the brain that protects you from feeling like an idiot when you get ripped off. Or maybe it's the good wood. (This should be in purple.) BillB1960 and capthowdy like this.

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BSeneca Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Lewisberry, PA Posts: 426 Thanks: 98 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	Re: What is it about Historics? There is just "something" about them. I have owned over 20 les pauls (16 USA 4 historics) and maybe its the neck shape?, tone? I really dont know but I consider myself a capable and decent player and I am able to play with more precision and fluidity on my historics. I too can never go back to standards or classics, but I was playing my firebird today which is USA, and was fine with it. Different animal, thinner neck but I was O.K. with that just not USA Les Pauls. Easy Ace I never tire of seeing you R6. ROCK ON DUDE!!

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DDDave Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 245 Thanks: 11 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: What is it about Historics? Hey Bill, Thanks for the music(4 note blues) Just got finshed playin a round each for the Rhythm, and Solo parts. Ahh...I needed that. And EASYACE I wish i could swap my R8 with ya, for a weekend so i could give those P-90s a go-around.

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meanmud Bartlett Retrospec Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: The First State Posts: 77 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: What is it about Historics? When I picked out my R9, I had to go through at least 15-20 to find a great one, they were all, for the most part, OK, but not GREAT. Of all of the shops I visited, there was only one that understood why I didn't want to play it through an amp....lol __________________ '11 Collings 290 DC S (Crimson) '12 SVL Supernatural '13 Grosh NOS Retro '13 Gibson R9 '13 Gibson '63 ES-335 Victoria 20112 (Vertex Board coming soon)

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