Speak now, or hold your peace

enuenu · 03-07-2011, 05:44 AM

Considering whether to pull the trigger on a cool LP (edited out as I'm getting tantalizingly close and a little paranoid now). If you see any reason why it doesn't constitute a good deal or you see some other factor I may have not considered about the guitar, please speak to me. This would be my first LP and I'm buying online without playing first (scary stuff).

I often wonder why what seem to be such great guitars are often bought and offloaded onto the used market so quickly without hardly being played. The first owner obviously really disliked it for some reason. That worries me I must admit, particularly as I would be buying without playing it first.

I use a Mesa DR + Recto 4 x 12 cab and wonder if a fat sounding LP (as per tone report) would be too muddy as this amp/cab combo can tend to the mud at times. It seems to tick all my boxes though. I think the neck would be good for me. I'm playing mostly metal and hard rock, but love playing everything from jazz to country to blues for fun here and there.

I don't want a thin LP tone so it sounds good. Don't want a chambered one or a lightweight I don't think, I do want some beef. Just wondering if it could be too bass heavy. My Explorer has this tendency through the DR. The Explorer is great for jackhammer rock chords but when you start playing open chords and barre chords the bass really sqaushes the mids and highs. I got turned onto RIs when shopping for a 2008 Std. Played an R8 and cannot go back. The wailing sustain and complex tones on higher bends blew my mind. R6 with P90s was also very nice, not quite as rock as the R8, but sweeter. Love to own both (dream).

Hoping this LP may be just my cup of tea. It is a lot of money to me and I really want to get one LP for life, hopefully at the first attempt.

I have a Strat for the thinner tones and to mix tones up for recording.

I am close, but nervous. Is there nothing to fear but fear itself?

Danelectro · 03-07-2011, 06:32 AM

Looks to be a nice guitar at a reasonable price. An R7 goldtop with a 60's neck is a custom order, so if you prefer a thinner neck you should grab this one because you may never find another.

calvin1 · 03-07-2011, 07:17 AM

looks good to me

Sterling # Sound · 03-07-2011, 09:50 AM

Why do you ask the forum?

lesterp · 03-07-2011, 10:31 AM

I think you can't go wrong with this guitar. Good weight (meaning not too light), good price.

Main thing is the neck size. That is a very rare neck size on an R7 Goldtop. if the neck works for you, grab this guitar fast.

rykus · 03-07-2011, 11:05 AM

if you find the mesa a bit dark and undefined id say try a different cab.... mine makes any head sound allittle to muddy for me. love greenbacks now. i remember when i first switched and really started to appreciate the clarity now i don't know how i played that. i use it for bass.

singlecut · 03-07-2011, 01:19 PM

talk to mark. he knows his stuff. and he won't sell you a guitar to sell you a guitar.tell him what you want . if he dosen't have it. he will let you know when he gets it.

enuenu · 03-07-2011, 02:40 PM

Thanks a lot. Heard a lot of good things about him now and am getting closer to lift off, thus the edit of my original post. The paranoia sets in! Skittish.

bertzie · 03-07-2011, 02:45 PM

Buy now ask questions later. You can always resell it if you don't like it.

Tim Plains · 03-07-2011, 02:48 PM

I've bought two guitars from Mark. His tone reports are dead on and cut out most (if not all) the guess work that comes with buying a guitar on-line. Why don't you just give him a call, tell him what amp you're using and ask if he think it'll be too muddy? (provided he's played a Mesa DR). I know he's honest. He'd rather sell you the right guitar than just sell you a guitar.

enuenu · 03-23-2011, 09:02 PM

Just received my first LP. A beautiful R7 GT with a 60 neck from Mark's Guitar Loft. Mark was a gem to deal with and the guitar is awesome. One very happy camper here.

It is highly appropriate that the guitar arrived this morning as I'm off to see Stone Temple Pilots tonight. The planets are in alignment.

LPCollector · 03-23-2011, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enuenu

Just received my first LP. A beautiful R7 GT with a 60 neck from Mark's Guitar Loft. Mark was a gem to deal with and the guitar is awesome. One very happy camper here.

It is highly appropriate that the guitar arrived this morning as I'm off to see Stone Temple Pilots tonight. The planets are in alignment.

Congrats!

enuenu · 03-25-2011, 12:48 AM

Thanks. Pics to come. STP rocked.

03-07-2011, 05:44 AM	#1 (permalink)
enuenu Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Orstraylya Posts: 95 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Speak now, or hold your peace Considering whether to pull the trigger on a cool LP (edited out as I'm getting tantalizingly close and a little paranoid now). If you see any reason why it doesn't constitute a good deal or you see some other factor I may have not considered about the guitar, please speak to me. This would be my first LP and I'm buying online without playing first (scary stuff). I often wonder why what seem to be such great guitars are often bought and offloaded onto the used market so quickly without hardly being played. The first owner obviously really disliked it for some reason. That worries me I must admit, particularly as I would be buying without playing it first. I use a Mesa DR + Recto 4 x 12 cab and wonder if a fat sounding LP (as per tone report) would be too muddy as this amp/cab combo can tend to the mud at times. It seems to tick all my boxes though. I think the neck would be good for me. I'm playing mostly metal and hard rock, but love playing everything from jazz to country to blues for fun here and there. I don't want a thin LP tone so it sounds good. Don't want a chambered one or a lightweight I don't think, I do want some beef. Just wondering if it could be too bass heavy. My Explorer has this tendency through the DR. The Explorer is great for jackhammer rock chords but when you start playing open chords and barre chords the bass really sqaushes the mids and highs. I got turned onto RIs when shopping for a 2008 Std. Played an R8 and cannot go back. The wailing sustain and complex tones on higher bends blew my mind. R6 with P90s was also very nice, not quite as rock as the R8, but sweeter. Love to own both (dream). Hoping this LP may be just my cup of tea. It is a lot of money to me and I really want to get one LP for life, hopefully at the first attempt. I have a Strat for the thinner tones and to mix tones up for recording. I am close, but nervous. Is there nothing to fear but fear itself? Last edited by enuenu; 03-07-2011 at 02:43 PM.

03-07-2011, 06:32 AM	#2 (permalink)
Danelectro V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,649 Thanks: 0 Thanked 59 Times in 17 Posts	Re: Speak now, or hold your peace Looks to be a nice guitar at a reasonable price. An R7 goldtop with a 60's neck is a custom order, so if you prefer a thinner neck you should grab this one because you may never find another.

03-07-2011, 07:17 AM	#3 (permalink)
calvin1 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: cambridge on. canada Posts: 1,277 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Speak now, or hold your peace looks good to me

03-07-2011, 09:50 AM	#4 (permalink)
Sterling # Sound Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 905 Thanks: 41 Thanked 45 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Speak now, or hold your peace Why do you ask the forum? __________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/TheSterlingSound I've crossed the ocean, turned every bend I found the crossing near a golden rainbow's end I've been through magic and through life's reality I've lived a thousand years and it never bothered me

03-07-2011, 10:31 AM	#5 (permalink)
lesterp Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 66 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Speak now, or hold your peace I think you can't go wrong with this guitar. Good weight (meaning not too light), good price. Main thing is the neck size. That is a very rare neck size on an R7 Goldtop. if the neck works for you, grab this guitar fast.

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03-07-2011, 11:05 AM	#6 (permalink)
rykus Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Sunshine Coast, BC , Canada Posts: 643 Thanks: 18 Thanked 14 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Speak now, or hold your peace if you find the mesa a bit dark and undefined id say try a different cab.... mine makes any head sound allittle to muddy for me. love greenbacks now. i remember when i first switched and really started to appreciate the clarity now i don't know how i played that. i use it for bass.

03-07-2011, 01:19 PM	#7 (permalink)
singlecut Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: where the devil don't stay Posts: 7,041 Thanks: 212 Thanked 238 Times in 66 Posts	Re: Speak now, or hold your peace talk to mark. he knows his stuff. and he won't sell you a guitar to sell you a guitar.tell him what you want . if he dosen't have it. he will let you know when he gets it. __________________ [SIGPIC]

03-07-2011, 02:40 PM	#8 (permalink)
enuenu Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Orstraylya Posts: 95 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Speak now, or hold your peace Thanks a lot. Heard a lot of good things about him now and am getting closer to lift off, thus the edit of my original post. The paranoia sets in! Skittish.

03-07-2011, 02:45 PM	#9 (permalink)
bertzie Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 16,750 Thanks: 3 Thanked 238 Times in 87 Posts	Re: Speak now, or hold your peace Buy now ask questions later. You can always resell it if you don't like it.

03-07-2011, 02:48 PM	#10 (permalink)
Tim Plains Bartlett Retrospec Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 9,383 Thanks: 638 Thanked 676 Times in 76 Posts	Re: Speak now, or hold your peace I've bought two guitars from Mark. His tone reports are dead on and cut out most (if not all) the guess work that comes with buying a guitar on-line. Why don't you just give him a call, tell him what amp you're using and ask if he think it'll be too muddy? (provided he's played a Mesa DR). I know he's honest. He'd rather sell you the right guitar than just sell you a guitar. __________________ Tim. Future Bartlett Retrospec winner!!

03-23-2011, 09:02 PM	#11 (permalink)
enuenu Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Orstraylya Posts: 95 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Speak now, or hold your peace Just received my first LP. A beautiful R7 GT with a 60 neck from Mark's Guitar Loft. Mark was a gem to deal with and the guitar is awesome. One very happy camper here. It is highly appropriate that the guitar arrived this morning as I'm off to see Stone Temple Pilots tonight. The planets are in alignment. SFK and FennRx like this.

03-25-2011, 12:48 AM	#13 (permalink)
enuenu Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Orstraylya Posts: 95 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Speak now, or hold your peace Thanks. Pics to come. STP rocked.

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