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Unread 10-13-2010, 05:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Restringing a Les Paul (and locking the strings)

Hi guys

I'm relatively a new Les Paul player and I'm extremely happy about the guitar. Except for the fact that I obviously suck at restringing this type of guitar I was a Fender player only before I bought the Gibson Les Paul 1958 VOS. With the fender, I learned how to restring and lock the strings with the following tutorial:

After locking the strings I never had any kind of tuning problems on my American Strat, even on heavy duty bending stuff. With the Gibson however, I do have problems. Probably because of bad windings and an incorrect way to do it. I put some Big Bends Nut Sauce on the nut before restringing.

Essentially I just put the string into the hole of the tuning peg and then put the string below itself twice, and finally over it and tune up. It seems to work well with the 6th, 5th and 4th strings but not with the 3rd, 2nd and 1st strings.

Was wondering how you guys were doing it? I've searched through several tutorial but none did the job for me. I'm getting very frustrated by not being able to do this, it should be simple hope you guys can help a newbie of a Les Paul..
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Unread 10-13-2010, 05:52 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Watch and learn:

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Re: Restringing a Les Paul (and locking the strings)

Each player has his own way of restringing, and there are different opinions about what is the best method. The way i personally restring is the one shown in this vid, i learned the method from the luthier who sets up my guitars when it's needed. Very simple, plus it gives great tone and stays perfectly in tune. Setting the holes in the tuning key posts in a 90 degree angle to the neck, is important for this method BTW.

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That video was pretty cool Planks. I never saw that method before, I will be sure to give it a try.
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I will also give it a whirl!
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Re: Restringing a Les Paul (and locking the strings)

Thanks for the helpful posts guys.

Mono: Have you experienced any problems with that kind of stringing method when it comes to either string breakage or loss of tuning stability? Looks like a great video, and a simple method too

planks: looks like a nice video too. When you've done the first 3 heavy strings, do you then insert the string from the inside as well, with the 3 lighter strings, and just do the opposite than he did with the 3 heavy strings? He doesn't show that in this video.

Just deciding what method I should try when I have more time later today, I already destroyed 3 packs of strings and accidentally made a few scratches on my headstock :/
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I have had no issues whatsoever with the method I posted. Strings have stayed in tune and not broken... but make sure you wind them from the bottom up and they don't overlap in doing so.
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Thanks for the helpful posts guys.

Mono: Have you experienced any problems with that kind of stringing method when it comes to either string breakage or loss of tuning stability? Looks like a great video, and a simple method too

planks: looks like a nice video too. When you've done the first 3 heavy strings, do you then insert the string from the inside as well, with the 3 lighter strings, and just do the opposite than he did with the 3 heavy strings? :/

Yes, always go from the inside out - then bend the string UP towards the top of the headstock then back around to the inside and under the string on the other side of the tuning post.

I use to use this method, but now I prefer the 3 finger method like in the video that Mono posted.

Both work great and never gave me any problems with staying in tune. But the method in Mono's video just seems easier for me...
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<snip>When you've done the first 3 heavy strings, do you then insert the string from the inside as well, with the 3 lighter strings, and just do the opposite than he did with the 3 heavy strings? He doesn't show that in this video.
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I have had no issues whatsoever with the method I posted. Strings have stayed in tune and not broken... but make sure you wind them from the bottom up and they don't overlap in doing so.
That was the thing I apparently missed previously. It seems to lock the string and make the tuning quite stable. So far it seems to have worked, after 4 lost attempts on a whole set of strings

Thanks a bunch for your help guys!
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This thead showed me just how wrong I've been stringing my guitar for years and showed me just how easy stringing is. No 45 minute battles filled with sweat and profanity!
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I change the strings differently on my Mustang than on my Les Paul.
My Mustang has the slotted machine heads.
They're easier to change.
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Re: Restringing a Les Paul (and locking the strings)

As you can see, many different methods and opinions on how to change and wind the strings. Me personally, I've always used the method in the Baker video (I gotta pay more attention to those bends before winding) keeping at least three winds on the post and have never had a problem. Really important to stretch those strings thoroughly.
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92Standard, yup that's true about the bends. I had some initial windings issues because I didn't make the bends sharp enough I think.. btw. that's a gorgeous LP in your avatar
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Re: Restringing a Les Paul (and locking the strings)

I've always had trouble figuring out winds or wraps. The method I use I got from a book and its loads of bending and knotting and really messy (and a pain in the ass on the thinner strings when you got not much to grip). I was very surprised when I watched the Baker video and saw just how little he was actually doing.
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Re: Restringing a Les Paul (and locking the strings)

This is a great method and how I have done it for a long time! Thanks for the video Planks

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Each player has his own way of restringing, and there are different opinions about what is the best method. The way i personally restring is the one shown in this vid, i learned the method from the luthier who sets up my guitars when it's needed. Very simple, plus it gives great tone and stays perfectly in tune. Setting the holes in the tuning key posts in a 90 degree angle to the neck, is important for this method BTW.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRGw0rEVjCc
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I played a concert last night with the Les Paul for the first time. Holy crap this guitar rocks live when turned up didn't need to tune much between the numbers, nice
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Damn, This just reminded me I gotta go buy a few sets of strings ...

Mods, This might be a good thread for a sticky??
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I think Damndirty ape posted this about a year ago or so. This one is the best, IMO. The simplest and neatest looking method.
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I use both methods, three finger for the top strings, wrap around lock for the bottom.
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Re: Restringing a Les Paul (and locking the strings)

Whoa! That first video was painful to watch! Bill's Video is great! I use less slack for the unwound strings as they are smaller diameter and need less in my opinion, I also bend the string slightly upward to prevent the string from scraping up the headstock. I find I really only need 1 to 2 winds on the tuning barrel for wound strings and 2 to 3 winds for the unwound strings.
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I use the Bill Baker method and it works great everytime
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92Standard, yup that's true about the bends. I had some initial windings issues because I didn't make the bends sharp enough I think.. btw. that's a gorgeous LP in your avatar
Thanks for the compliment!!!
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