R8 2001 burstbucker 2/3

[kjolstad]

On the back of the burstbuckers in my R8 2001 the PU name is simply written with an inkpen #2 and #3? No label, no sticker!

Is that normal?

[nicolasrivera]

yes, whats the serial number? my R8 came with
57' classics s# 8 1220

[kjolstad]

I'll check up on the serial number however I was just confused that there's only written '#2' on the PU with inkpen. How should I know which PU if the seller hadn't told me?

[nicolasrivera]

Well that its what we need to stablish, at what point in the serial production was the PU change from 57' to BBs.

Strange is that there is no PAF sticker, but they are delicate and can come off easily.

Some of the experts here need to clarify this writen numbers as i cant recall that practice.

[al3d]

From what i was told..Historics and Reissues had Classic 57 in them in 2001. BUT like Nicolas said, maybe the Big guns can give a more precise info.

[kjolstad]

#2 and 3 is written on the back so it's nok likely 57's I guess. I wears no sign of sticker nor glue. Will post serial later...

[snaredrum]

my BBs are numbered with a sticker. interesting...

[BigJim]

My 2002 R8 came with Classic/Classic +

[kjolstad]

the serial is 81158

[nicolasrivera]

Then i believe those are not the originals PUs as your s/n is lower then mine and my R8 is all original and has the classics.

I doubt that they used BBs and the classics and then BBs again.

[kjolstad]

i think you perhaps are right. i was kind of suspicious to the inkpen marking in first place...

[Mike60]

it's possible they're BB's...was this guitar originally sold in Japan?

[kjolstad]

i don't know since i'm the third owner at least. They're aged though just like the guitar.

[kjolstad]

Was there any special about the R8's sold in Japan or Europe;

[delawaregold]

Burstbuckers were available in Japanese exports since 1996.

[kjolstad]

I just found out from previous owner that my r8 is an authentic historic 2001 which should be the reason for the inkpen #2 and the burstbucker setup...

[lesterp]

2001 Custom Authentics (r8, r7) came stock with Burstbucker 2 & 3.

One easy way to tell if you have a custom authentic is that they came stock with Grover tuners.

[kjolstad]

it did come with grover so must be authentic; Is the fully name then: R8 custom authentic historic reissue?

[nicolasrivera]

Custom authentic to Japan market, the USA version did not come with grovers or BBs

[lesterp]

Originally Posted by kjolstad

it did come with grover so must be authentic; Is the fully name then: R8 custom authentic historic reissue?

Yes.

[lesterp]

Originally Posted by nicolasrivera

Custom authentic to Japan market, the USA version did not come with grovers or BBs

USA certainly had "Custom Authentics". I've owned several and have played several more. Grover tuners were on the original series of Custom Authentic, which started around July of 2001.
By very early 2002 (if not a little sooner) the Grovers were gone.

The CA's have a slightly (better to me) different sound, as the added mass of the Grovers seems to allow for better sustain.

[kjolstad]

thanks a lot for all the feedback; I'm really glad for this guitar but was just wondering what exact model and pickups config it came with.

Does anybody know what the selling price for a R8 custom authentic historic reissue was in 2001

[nicolasrivera]

Originally Posted by lesterp

USA certainly had "Custom Authentics". I've owned several and have played several more. Grover tuners were on the original series of Custom Authentic, which started around July of 2001.
By very early 2002 (if not a little sooner) the Grovers were gone.

The CA's have a slightly (better to me) different sound, as the added mass of the Grovers seems to allow for better sustain.

Whats strange is that his guitar has an earlier S/N then mine and i
did not get the grovers or the BBs.

This inconcistensy makes me believe his guitar is a special market oriented
editions, if you look at the many other fromthis forum or the historical serial
website there are very few with grovers.

[kjolstad]

so mine is extra special yeah

[lesterp]

Originally Posted by nicolasrivera

Whats strange is that his guitar has an earlier S/N then mine and i
did not get the grovers or the BBs.

This inconcistensy makes me believe his guitar is a special market oriented
editions, if you look at the many other fromthis forum or the historical serial
website there are very few with grovers.

Most Custom Authentics that have Grovers were produced in July and August of 2001, though they were made throughout the year.

I don't know how many Custom Authentics were made in 2001, but the number has to be very small... also meaning a small amount of Historic R8's that ever had Grovers.

Also take into account, the "Custom Authentic" package had an upcharge of something like $300. Most people thought it was weird to pay extra for a guitar that was aged.... They should look up the term "Murphy". LOL

[nicolasrivera]

Ok, so i have a Historic 1958 R8 from 2001, but the Custom Authentic version came with grovers and Burstbuckers pickups, it that it?

[markguitar]

Originally Posted by nicolasrivera

Ok, so i have a Historic 1958 R8 from 2001, but the Custom Authentic version came with grovers and Burstbuckers pickups, it that it?

ALL 2001 '58 Custom Authentics came with Burstbucker 2&3 pickups, the "Authentic" dulled finish and aged parts including Grover tuners. The Grover tuners were dropped in 2002. The regular series gloss finish R8's came with '57 classic into the first quarter of 2002.

[nicolasrivera]

Originally Posted by markguitar

ALL 2001 '58 Custom Authentics came with Burstbucker 2&3 pickups, the "Authentic" dulled finish and aged parts including Grover tuners. The Grover tuners were dropped in 2002. The regular series gloss finish R8's came with '57 classic into the first quarter of 2002.

Here is confusing part:

My 2001 R8...........s/n 8 1220 is gloss finish, ´57 PUs and tulip tuners.
kjolstad 2001 R8....s/n 8 1158 dull finish, BBs PUs and grover tunes.

Both guitars are from 2001, mine is not 2002 so there most be a batch of 2001 thats came like mine.

[CharlieS]

There is nothing confusing with your examples.

Gloss finish/Klusons/57 Classics

Dulled finish/Grovers/BBs

That's they way they came in '01. There were a lot of Custom Authentics around, as well as the glossy finish regular R8s.

[markguitar]

Originally Posted by nicolasrivera

Here is confusing part:

My 2001 R8...........s/n 8 1220 is gloss finish, ´57 PUs and tulip tuners.
kjolstad 2001 R8....s/n 8 1158 dull finish, BBs PUs and grover tunes.

Both guitars are from 2001, mine is not 2002 so there most be a batch of 2001 thats came like mine.

What is so hard to understand?? There were 2 models of '58's sold in 2001. A gloss finish like yours and the Custom Authentic, pretty simple!! The Custom Authentics were more expensive.