Match your Historic to Beauty of The Burst

Kevin James · 09-15-2010, 08:47 AM

Saw this thread on another forum and thought this was really cool. Since this forum seems to have a lot more traffic I thought we should have one here. I'll start.

Here's my R9 and B.O.T.B. # 9 0593 (different pics but same guitar)

My R9:

B.O.T.B. 9 0593:

Lets see yours!

BigJim · 09-15-2010, 08:49 AM

Great thread!

Lemme look tonight, there may be a 58 that has the same serial number as mine.

Kevin James · 09-15-2010, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigJim

Great thread!

Lemme look tonight, there may be a 58 that has the same serial number as mine.

Yeah, I found a real burst with my exact serial number here:
Burst Serial Log

That one doesn't look anything like my historic does, but 90593 looks pretty damn close except its faded to a little bit lighter color.

Looking at the thread on LPF I was surprised how many were posted that look REALLY close. There was a 58 Plain top that was so close its scary. Looked so close I almost think it might have been intentional by one of the builders at the custom shop. I mean the color and the grain patern was almost identicle.

Danelectro · 09-15-2010, 11:20 AM

2005 Murphy R9

9-1962

River · 09-15-2010, 11:36 AM

Page #1:

'04 R8:

ledlover01 · 09-15-2010, 08:21 PM

River yours has a nicer top than the Page #1

nicolasrivera · 09-15-2010, 10:01 PM

River, nice but i do not see the resemblance

River · 09-15-2010, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicolasrivera

River, nice but i do not see the resemblance

You wouldn't. 'Cause you don't like me.

And I'm all broken up about that.

I mean, really? You don't see the resemblance?

Go smoke some Honduran Mahogany dust, my friend.

Nevin1985 · 09-15-2010, 10:18 PM

I don't own the book!

Liam · 09-16-2010, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by River

I mean, really? You don't see the resemblance?

Riv, I can see the resemblance. Have you considered going for the string vest and pink crushed velvet flares as well? It's a look!

Liam

nicolasrivera · 09-16-2010, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by River

You wouldn't. 'Cause you don't like me.

And I'm all broken up about that.

I mean, really? You don't see the resemblance?

Go smoke some Honduran Mahogany dust, my friend.

In this picture the color matches a lot more, but on the other one not even the flame matches, but its ok River as long as in your eyes they look alike thats all it matters.

ctkarslake · 09-18-2010, 04:42 PM

Took awhile to get my sh%# together but here are mine, with page scan references.

My 8 7130 is an official copy of 9 0875 (a run of 50 guitars apparently), not a replica like the ones done later in '03, more an "inspired by" version built in '97. I have a letter from Edwin Wilson explaining Gibson's intention.

My 8 8451 looks a lot like 8 1689 on the next page. I going out on a limb here saying Gibson copied from the book but I have no letter to prove it on this one. Built in '98.

And yes, the printing on the US version of the book is WAY TOO YELLOW and it's a hard thing to correct in photoshop.

cnote · 09-18-2010, 05:12 PM

The color/burst is wrong, but I think my 50th 9 0192 Darkburst's figure compares pretty well to Burst 9 0593:

What's cool here is that no one these days believes that quartersawn tops with medium fat flame in a mild chevron is vintage-correct. They want flatsawn, flecks, etc. But 90593 and 90592 (with a mild reverse chevron) show that quartersawn tops of this type were indeed used back then.

And River, yes, I see the resemblance between yours and Page's too. Cool!

Kevin James · 09-18-2010, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cnote

The color/burst is wrong, but I think my 50th 9 0192 Darkburst's figure compares pretty well to Burst 9 0593:

What's cool here is that no one these days believes that quartersawn tops with medium fat flame in a mild chevron is vintage-correct. They want flatsawn, flecks, etc. But 90593 and 90592 (with a mild reverse chevron) show that quartersawn tops of this type were indeed used back then.

And River, yes, I see the resemblance between yours and Page's too. Cool!

Nice, same one mine looks like. Its funny, after owning this historic for 10 years I really had decided the flamed top looked nothing like any real burst top.... to over the top and to perfect etc. Then I found the pic of 9 0593 and wise like HOLY CRAP... its almost a perfect match LOL. And 9 0597 is really close too as far as the figuring but its closer to a lemon drop top in color.

cnote · 09-18-2010, 08:07 PM

My Yamano 06 R0 also matches 9 0926 very closely. 9 0926 is only in BOTB, so I don't have digital pictures, but if you check out the picture in BOTB, and check this, it's very close:

If you have BOTB, check the detail of the flame between the PUP rings. This R0 is a Yamano Murphy guitar, so I figure Murphy or someone had the same thought, as they went a rare (for an R0) Ice Tea color that matches 9 0926 really really well.

snaredrum · 09-19-2010, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by River

of course i'm a rock and roll star, can't you see my CHAIR?

maicolp · 09-21-2010, 04:32 AM

here's mine
9-0901

maicolp · 09-21-2010, 04:36 AM

sorry guys... that pic is huge and blurred.

nicolasrivera · 09-21-2010, 04:13 PM

But its a nice example.

I just ordered BOTB!!!!

ashbass · 09-21-2010, 04:42 PM

Note the rings you can see in the top half of the guitar.
\

mokume · 09-21-2010, 05:33 PM

Now that's a match Ashbass...

***Alex*** · 04-04-2011, 03:02 PM

Here's my V2 R0 that looks somewhat similar to the Howard Leese burst.

The Greek · 04-04-2011, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

Here's my V2 R0 that looks somewhat similar to the Howard Leese burst.

WOW! One of my all time favorite bursts back to the future!

Sterling # Sound · 04-04-2011, 03:29 PM

9 1873 on the left (not an exact match - nor a Historic come to think of it

)

NowGibson · 04-04-2011, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danelectro

2005 Murphy R9

9-1962

Looks like my R909 also.

truetone6 · 04-05-2011, 03:22 PM

Maybe

9 0593

or 9 0597

JimmyAce2006 · 04-07-2011, 08:58 AM

I think I own the grand child of the 1959 burst 9 0291 (Vic Dapra's). Mine is a 2003 r9 with braz fret board. Each pic below alternates with the vintage burst, then my guitar. You be the judge!

JimmyAce2006 · 04-07-2011, 08:58 AM

JPP373 · 04-07-2011, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimmyAce2006

I think I own the grand child of the 1959 burst 9 0291 (Vic Dapra's). Mine is a 2003 r9 with braz fret board. Each pic below alternates with the vintage burst, then my guitar. You be the judge!

Pretty sure you've pointed this out a few hundred times already..yes they do look Exactly Alike-Amazing. But i think the Post is "match your Historic to a BOTB from the Book. By the way can you post several more pics of each to compare cuz i'm not sure they match on the bass side.

i think i see more mineral streaks on 9 0291

pinefd · 04-07-2011, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPP373

Pretty sure you've pointed this out a few hundred times already..yes they do look Exactly Alike-Amazing. But i think the Post is "match your Historic to a BOTB from the Book. By the way can you post several more pics of each to compare cuz i'm not sure they match on the bass side.

i think i see more mineral streaks on 9 0291

My, aren't we being picky!?!

And just for that, I think I'm just going to have to follow suit and post another non-BOTB vintage guitar comparison with a Historic.

The vintage one's on the top; mine's on the bottom:

I think.

Frank

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Kevin James V.I.P. Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 1,243 Thanks: 11 Thanked 39 Times in 11 Posts	Match your Historic to Beauty of The Burst Saw this thread on another forum and thought this was really cool. Since this forum seems to have a lot more traffic I thought we should have one here. I'll start. Here's my R9 and B.O.T.B. # 9 0593 (different pics but same guitar) My R9: B.O.T.B. 9 0593: Lets see yours! InfiniteeZ, backfromcali., 7gtop and 3 others like this.

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nicolasrivera Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Honduras Posts: 16,586 Thanks: 2,081 Thanked 900 Times in 238 Posts	Re: Match your Historic to Beauty of The Burst River, nice but i do not see the resemblance rafazu41 and KZ! like this.

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cnote Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 122 Thanks: 1 Thanked 18 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Match your Historic to Beauty of The Burst The color/burst is wrong, but I think my 50th 9 0192 Darkburst's figure compares pretty well to Burst 9 0593: What's cool here is that no one these days believes that quartersawn tops with medium fat flame in a mild chevron is vintage-correct. They want flatsawn, flecks, etc. But 90593 and 90592 (with a mild reverse chevron) show that quartersawn tops of this type were indeed used back then. And River, yes, I see the resemblance between yours and Page's too. Cool!

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cnote Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 122 Thanks: 1 Thanked 18 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Match your Historic to Beauty of The Burst My Yamano 06 R0 also matches 9 0926 very closely. 9 0926 is only in BOTB, so I don't have digital pictures, but if you check out the picture in BOTB, and check this, it's very close: If you have BOTB, check the detail of the flame between the PUP rings. This R0 is a Yamano Murphy guitar, so I figure Murphy or someone had the same thought, as they went a rare (for an R0) Ice Tea color that matches 9 0926 really really well. RedSkwirrell likes this.

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nicolasrivera Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Honduras Posts: 16,586 Thanks: 2,081 Thanked 900 Times in 238 Posts	Re: Match your Historic to Beauty of The Burst But its a nice example. I just ordered BOTB!!!!

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