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Unread 09-07-2010, 08:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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'57 Custom VOS - your thoughts - thick vs slim neck

Hi - i played a 2009 '57 VOS Custom - it was really an awesome guitar.

it had incredible tone - but a really thick neck - i played a number of other standards that had a slimmer '60s neck.

can i hear your thoughts on the thick vs slim neck?

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Unread 09-07-2010, 08:16 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: '57 Custom VOS - your thoughts - thick vs slim neck

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...can i hear your thoughts on the thick vs slim neck?

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You are the one that has to live with whatever you choose,not anyone else,so I suggest you get the one that suits you and not what the fan boys decide on.
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Re: '57 Custom VOS - your thoughts - thick vs slim neck

Go try a '68 Custom at Guitar Center if you like slim necks. I've never played the GC '68 but I've read here at MLP that they have slim necks. Regular '68s have fat necks. Similar guitar but with a maple cap & Gibson USA pots/caps.
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Re: '57 Custom VOS - your thoughts - thick vs slim neck

Wood is good!
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Re: '57 Custom VOS - your thoughts - thick vs slim neck

All depends on personal taste. I prefer a fatter neck, but not too fat cause I still like to play fast.
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Re: '57 Custom VOS - your thoughts - thick vs slim neck

I've got pretty big hands so naturally I prefer thicker necks. Most of my guitars have baseball bat necks. The thin ones just tend to make my fret hand cramp up. But, to each his own. What feels right for me may not feel right for you.
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Re: '57 Custom VOS - your thoughts - thick vs slim neck

Much prefer fat necks....slim/wide/thin are wrist-crampers....ymmv!!
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Re: '57 Custom VOS - your thoughts - thick vs slim neck

I have bigger hands but i love my slim-taper neck on my classic. So comfortable to play on, and very fast, IMO. Your really the one that is going to have to make the descision, b/c your the one buying the guitar.
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Re: '57 Custom VOS - your thoughts - thick vs slim neck

I like the fatter necks, even though my hands are only averaged sized. I think you need to try out the guitar for a good half hour to an hour to get used to it, or not, as the case may be. A 5 minute noodle isn't really enough to make a judgement.

I hear that the 60RI Customs have slimmer necks, if it's a Custom that you are particularly looking for.
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Re: '57 Custom VOS - your thoughts - thick vs slim neck

Hi the tone comes from the neck too! - so for tone I wd tend for a fat neck, too.
But it must suit to your hand and feeling.
Play it unplugged and listen to the sound - what speaks more to you and
does the hand like it ? This leads you sure in the right direction.
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Re: '57 Custom VOS - your thoughts - thick vs slim neck

Whatever feels comfortable..
All this fat neck vs thick neck stuff with re superior tone is crap. It's all in the stiffness of the neck joint and individual to each guitar.
If fat necks are superior in tone to slimmer necks then forget most of Koss's stuff with Free as Erics Bluesbreaker album and Page's stuff because they were mostly all slim neck profile Les Paul's.
Some fat necks sound great, as do some slimmer necks.. It's just a case of finding the right one with your name on it.
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Re: '57 Custom VOS - your thoughts - thick vs slim neck

I agree with Phil (always). It doesn't affect the tone in any significant way - it affects the way the guitar feels and fits your hand. I have large hands. I prefer medium sized (R9-ish) necks. Not too fat, not Ibanez/Shredder thin. YMWV.
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Re: '57 Custom VOS - your thoughts - thick vs slim neck

The neck contributes to the tone but it's the piece of wood, not the size of it. Now on the 57 BB's, they come with a larger neck because that's how they came in 57. No slim version except in rare cases. My BB has a slimmer neck about the size of an R9. This is an anomily as far as I know because I have never heard of another with a slim neck like mine. The slim 60's vs the thicker 50's applied to the Gibson USA models, not the historics.
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Re: '57 Custom VOS - your thoughts - thick vs slim neck

There is the '60 reissue Custom...
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Re: '57 Custom VOS - your thoughts - thick vs slim neck

I think almost anyone can get used to almost anything. Switching between my '92 Standard and R8 is like going between a #2 pencil and a baseball bat. It took me a while, but I now like the one I switch to better, whichever it is.
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I think almost anyone can get used to almost anything. Switching between my '92 Standard and R8 is like going between a #2 pencil and a baseball bat. It took me a while, but I now like the one I switch to better, whichever it is.
Exactly I can play my 68 for an hour, put it away, grab my R0, which feels like grasping a toothpick after the 68. But, I adjust, not a big deal.




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There is the '60 reissue Custom...
I was speaking of the 57, I forgot about these but this would be a great alternative if a slimmer neck is desired. But I've never played one. Are the necks as slim as an R0?
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Re: '57 Custom VOS - your thoughts - thick vs slim neck

Supposedly... I've never played one either but they are advertised as having the '60 profile. I'm sure they vary quite a bit.
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Re: '57 Custom VOS - your thoughts - thick vs slim neck

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I think almost anyone can get used to almost anything. Switching between my '92 Standard and R8 is like going between a #2 pencil and a baseball bat. It took me a while, but I now like the one I switch to better, whichever it is.
I played an old 89 Epi with a very slim neck for years. Ran across a 99 R7 in a vintage guitar shop a few months ago. It had the big fat neck profile and I couldn't put the thing down. I visited several times and each visit I liked it more and more. I ended up buying it and love the neck. I can still pick up the Epi or the Faded Special (with slimmer profile neck) and love the feel of each one.

Don't be turned off or skeered of the thick neck. Play it for a while and you my find you just love it.
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Re: '57 Custom VOS - your thoughts - thick vs slim neck

Yes a thicker neck can be even a good workout tool for the left hand vs cramps orthpaedic issues.
I had 5 year ago a serious issue with the left hands tendon/senew and wrist.
I used to play thinner necks (Strat, Samick335 etc), then I tested a Duesenberg Starplayer. And this thicker neck was the cure the hand relaxed and after a while even my playing improved.
So be not shy for thicker necks in general!
today I am playing the thinner neck of the standard 2003 a while but I get very quickly adapt to the bit thicker neck of the goldtop 1957.
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Re: '57 Custom VOS - your thoughts - thick vs slim neck

I own a 58 VOS that has a fairly fatter neck than my American Strat. Before buying it I was also a bit concerned if I could adjust to the fatter neck. However, during a very short time it actually feels more comfortable for me (I don't have very large hands.. probably medium :d)..

Before buying the 58' what I did was playing it in the shop for half an hour, and then 1 week after I did the same thing. The second time I played it, felt much more natural for some reason. I would highly recommend doing something like this
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I own a 58 VOS that has a fairly fatter neck than my American Strat. Before buying it I was also a bit concerned if I could adjust to the fatter neck. However, during a very short time it actually feels more comfortable for me (I don't have very large hands.. probably medium :d)..

Before buying the 58' what I did was playing it in the shop for half an hour, and then 1 week after I did the same thing. The second time I played it, felt much more natural for some reason. I would highly recommend doing something like this
Sounds like a good approach if you are inexperienced with the thicker necks. When I got my R7 the thick neck was a bit of a shock. I had no problem with it but for some it would be a good idea to test this out before hand because some just don't like a big neck.
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