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Unread 07-17-2010, 04:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Glass Slide vs Metal Slide

I recently purchased a Glass Dunlop slide, and have been working on some songs that use a slide, after youtubing the songs to see live performances/covers/lessons/etc, I found that almost all of them are using a metal slide.

Is there a tonal difference or a reason they use a metal one compared to a glass slide?
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Unread 07-17-2010, 05:15 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Glass Slide vs Metal Slide

There's a big tonal difference, especially between glass and brass. Compare your glass slide to something handy, like a wrench socket or a table knife.
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Re: Glass Slide vs Metal Slide

Very different tonality. I really, really, really prefer glass to any of the metal slides I've played. I think alotta guys prefer the sound of metal; it's way more rockin', for lack of a better term. And, usually the metal slides are smaller and thinner, so they're a bit easier for some folks to wield.
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Re: Glass Slide vs Metal Slide

Glass sounds smoother. I prefer glass. I actually think the metal ones are heavier. Thinner indeed but I find em not handier because of the weight.
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Re: Glass Slide vs Metal Slide

if you are a beginner i would suggest glass, its lighter and i find alot easier to play than metal ones. the dunlop blues bottle is great, i keep mine on the ring finger above the knuckle, the Derek Trucks/Duane Allman way.
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Re: Glass Slide vs Metal Slide

I prefer glass but it needs to have a lot of mass to it. If it doesnt have mass it just sounds too thin to me.
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Re: Glass Slide vs Metal Slide

Glass slides sound great, metal slides sound great--it comes down to personal preference, and there's no rule saying you can't use both.

Personally I use a brass slide for two reasons
1-I would break glass slides all the time, so the cost would add up.
2-As far as metal slides I have a chrome slide as well, but I prefer the sound and feel of the brass slide.
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Re: Glass Slide vs Metal Slide

I've only just started learning slide and am using glass.
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Re: Glass Slide vs Metal Slide

i use brass for resonator slide, glass for acoustic slide and either glass or ceramic for electric slide. all of them make different sounds on each guitar.
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Re: Glass Slide vs Metal Slide

I use glass for electric and acoustic guitars. To me it just sounds better than any metal slide I've used. I also play a lap steel and use a metal bar on it so my suggestion is to go figure out which sound you like on your guitar.
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To me it's very much a touch you aquire along with the muting of the other strings when doing single notes.
Are you using a pick or fingers only or a combination with palming the pick?

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Using slide on middle finger and am "trying" to use a pic/finger combo.

However at the moment I am mainly just concentraing on pic alone and trying to get a feel for the slide.

I am enjoying it very much thus far.
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Re: Glass Slide vs Metal Slide

I should also note that I went with using the slide on my middle finger for a couple of reasons.

Firstly, it is the most comfortable finger for me.

I can still use my index and ring finger to fret notes.

I find it easiest to mute the strings behind the slide with my index.
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Re: Glass Slide vs Metal Slide

i've got a metal slide because page used one. i think he used chrome and brass. i've already rusted out my metal slide, and i can't play slide for my life.
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Re: Glass Slide vs Metal Slide

Slide is hard!! I love a good slide track. Do the glass ones break easily? Meaning if u were to drop id from say waist height, ur needing a new slide?
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Re: Glass Slide vs Metal Slide

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Slide is hard!! I love a good slide track. Do the glass ones break easily? Meaning if u were to drop id from say waist height, ur needing a new slide?
I have broken 2 glass slides on a hardwood floor. I want a metal one just because of tonal differences. I like to use it on my middle finger,but i need more practice with my technic.
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Re: Glass Slide vs Metal Slide

On an open tuned guitar you can get a good slide tune very easily. If you want to play smooth you really got to learn the right hand dampening thing. That's the hardest part to master.
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i've got a metal slide because page used one. i think he used chrome and brass. i've already rusted out my metal slide, and i can't play slide for my life.
You been playing that long, or do you live in a swamp?
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You been playing that long, or do you live in a swamp?

Playing slide makes him sweat a lot.
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Re: Glass Slide vs Metal Slide

It's all personal preference.

I pretty much use glass for when I want a "clean" type of slide sound - think of the intro to "Free Bird" by Skynyrd.[Look at video around 45sec]


I use a metal when I want something with some grit - think of "Bad to the Bone" by George Thorogood.

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Re: Glass Slide vs Metal Slide

Well, i actually got a steel lap slide!? I really like it! Next ill grab a glass Also picked up a set of flatwound strings, big difference
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Re: Glass Slide vs Metal Slide

I tried my friends brass slide, and here are my thoughts:

-I found it easier to use the brass becuase of it smaller size, being thinner and lighter, i was able to get a sustainable sound (I'm a terrible slide player:P)

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-I MUCH prefer the sound of the glass slide

Thanks for the input Guys
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I should also note that I went with using the slide on my middle finger for a couple of reasons.

Firstly, it is the most comfortable finger for me.

I can still use my index and ring finger to fret notes.

I find it easiest to mute the strings behind the slide with my index.
You are dead on with using the middle finger. You can still make barre chords, pleay leads without the slide and then come back in with the slide when you need to......hybrid soloing. I like your style. lol
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Re: Glass Slide vs Metal Slide

Got a looooooooooooong way to go yet but am certainly enjoying a new challange and a new voice on the guitar too.
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Re: Glass Slide vs Metal Slide

This is a post with plenty of places to go. Everybody has covered that no matter what sounds best to you.......use it. When you finger is inside of any slide....it sweats. If you are sweating inside of a glass slide, it will fly off if you're doing the heavy vibrato thing and it will break. So have a plethrera of them around if glass is your thing. If you use the typical Dunlop chromed slide, the inside will rust (this is a good thing) it acts as a way to keep it on your finger. Feels like sandpaper inside there and it simply won't come off of your finger. Brass has been a main stay for different things. In the 70's everybody was on a brass nut, bridge kick......slides were in there too. You don't see people using the whole brass parts anymore. Why? It's a flavor of the month thing. The only thing I can offer that I haven't read yet is that I play every slide instrument out there. Pedal Steel guitar.....Very heavy chromed steel slide is always used. Lap steel guitar.....Very heavy chromed steel slide is always used. Dobro.....same thing. I prefer the steel, chromed slides for everything including my guitar work.

Every alloy will have a different tonality and just go with what trips your trigger. Something to think about, your frets are metal and your notes sound a certain way when you're fretting your notes.....why is your nut made of bone or plastic? Shouldn't it be made of the same metal as your frets so that your open notes sound the same as your fretted notes? They used to have zero frets on some guitars (brilliant as far as I'm concerned). So, not everything is as it should be, which is also fine. Everything you do to your guitar changes it's tonality. Everything you play it with and what it's made of changes it. Very rarely do 2 people like the same things (especially guitarists). Try everything and sooner or later you'll find YOUR combination that makes you sound great. Right about that time, your tastes will change and you'll have to start all over again. lol
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Got a looooooooooooong way to go yet but am certainly enjoying a new challange and a new voice on the guitar too.
I just put out a new video Pinkbits on open E and open G tunings for slide. Feel free to download it here:
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Re: Glass Slide vs Metal Slide

Glass with this:



Metal with this:



I'm a pinky player. Helps me play the neck with the other 3 fingers.
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Re: Glass Slide vs Metal Slide

I could see wanting to mellow out the cigar box with some glass.
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Re: Glass Slide vs Metal Slide

I use glass on my index finger. It feels most comfortable, not that slide is a prominent part of any of my songs anyway.
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Re: Glass Slide vs Metal Slide

I like my big brass slide for guitars which I have set up with a high action. I'm using glass or a light steel slide for guitars with "regular" setups.
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De bone!



Sounds like this:

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I like it a lot.
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