phonetic rhythms anyone?

[dazzypig]

Hello again folks,

First time posting on this part of the forum, but I could really do with some help.

I'm currently trying to teach myself how to read music (I got grade 3 at college, but I'm not very good at it). I'm finding that due to practicing I am getting better at the notes part but reading rhythms is still a big messed up tangle in my head.

Some teachers I used to know used a sort of phonetic way of doing rhythms, like: coffee, coffee tea (quaver, quaver, crotchet?) and others like it. I guess I was wondering (rather childishly) if anybody had been taught in a similar method and still remembered any of these just to help me break it down on the page in front of me.

It's can be really frustrating having been playing for most of your life to then be struggling reading your way through nursery rhymes etc..


Thanks for the help guys and look forward to checking back soon,

D

[MorganPeline]

Try these:

Ear Training exercises in EarMaster

Amazon.com: Rhythm Guitar: The Complete Guide (Musicians Institute…

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[AngryHatter]

Quarter notes - one two three four
Eight notes - one and two and three and four and

And so on.

[zontar]

Originally Posted by AngryHatter

Quarter notes - one two three four
Eight notes - one and two and three and four and

And so on.

That's how I learned--triplets were the hardest for me to get used to--and syncopation--at least intentional syncopation.

I played unintended syncopation all the time.

[huw]

It's just a question of fitting the sylables to the words:

2s = da ga, da ga
3s = tri-puh-let, tri-puh-let or vi-ag-ra, vi-ag-ra (pick you own words!)
4s = double up on 2s= da-ga-da-ga, da-ga-da-ga
5s = hi-po-pot-a-mus, hi-po-pot-a-mus
etc etc

I have briefly posted in the past about some of the Indian sung sylables & how to use them in a similar manner. I think that might be a bit of overkill here? (I'll check back & see if anyone's interested later).

[dazzypig]

Great star guys, that's some of the stuff I'm looking for.

I find that playing the written notes isn't a problem, but if it's a tune I don't know then I just can't work out whether I'm playing it correctly. Only problem is, if I play a tune I do know, then I start to just play by ear instead of reading. Catch 22..

Wish reading music wasn't so dang important for session players and teachers though..

Haha, keep on pluggin' on though eh,

D

[AngryHatter]

Originally Posted by huw

It's just a question of fitting the sylables to the words:

2s = da ga, da ga
3s = tri-puh-let, tri-puh-let or vi-ag-ra, vi-ag-ra (pick you own words!)
4s = double up on 2s= da-ga-da-ga, da-ga-da-ga
5s = hi-po-pot-a-mus, hi-po-pot-a-mus
etc etc

I have briefly posted in the past about some of the Indian sung sylables & how to use them in a similar manner. I think that might be a bit of overkill here? (I'll check back & see if anyone's interested later).

Good stuff.

[huw]

Some interesting stuff in this old thread:

how do you count five in the place of a 1/4 note

[GBLEV]

Originally Posted by AngryHatter

Quarter notes - one two three four
Eight notes - one and two and three and four and

And so on.

The above is correct, along with this example for sixteenth notes:
one and a la le two and a three four
8th 8th 16 16 16 8th 8th 16 8th 8th