Jimi Hendirx- In From The Storm

[VILLANOVA]

Anyone know any good tabs for this song for guitar? The only time I've ever seen it was in the Live at the Isle of Wight tab book, and I haven't seen that thing being sold anywhere in at least a year. Anyone own the book and can scan it for me? Anyone know how to play it?

Thanks

[Angus]

Originally Posted by VILLANOVA

Anyone know any good tabs for this song for guitar? The only time I've ever seen it was in the Live at the Isle of Wight tab book, and I haven't seen that thing being sold anywhere in at least a year. Anyone own the book and can scan it for me? Anyone know how to play it?

Thanks

Not much help I'm afraid, but aside from anything you can spot on the IoW dvd, don't forget he also performed excellently (a month earlier?) in Hawaii for the Rainbow Bridge film, available on dvd. You might piece together a few extra riffs from that, I don't think its complete though.

My only tip would be, watch the bass player and conduct him with your facial expression and head movements.

[lowe]

i have that book, no scanner though. i could record it with a camera

[jonesy]

Tabs Schmabs, do your self a favor and sit down with the video and let you ears be the guide. Even if it takes you weeks to learn it you will be much better off. IMHO Tabs have ruined a generation of guitarists...

YouTube - Jimi Hendrix - In From The Storm

YouTube - Jimi Hendrix - In From The Storm

[teeloh]

I agree and disagree with Jonesy.

Tabs are addictive, and therefore bad. But have not ruined anyone. Mostly they are a phase good guitarists move on, and out of.

First fingers, then ears. Tabs last.

[jonesy]

Today it is so much easier to learn guitar than ever before, with Tabs, utube, dvds's etc. and I agree tabs have their purpose (many are in correct though) but have made a bunch of "Lazy" mediocre guitarists IMO.

Had a 14 kid come in last week that was friends with one of my drum students. I asked him what he new how to play. He starts playing surfing with the alien " by joe satriani that he learned from tabs. OMG his timing was pathetic, it was actually sad. I showed him 8th note rock a lesson/song that I teach to all my students so he could jam along on something with us. It is basic Rock in 4/4 time E/G/A/E 2x and then C/D/E/E 2x and he couldn't play it or follow along and said he needed that tabs. He looked like he was ready to cry when I told him that in the real world he wasn't going to get tabs for a lot of stuff when he went to jam with other people.

I have seen so many people that have learned songs from tabs and can play the notes and chords in the correct fretboard postions but have terrible timing. They sit can sit their and fumble thorugh the tab, but when they atempt to play along with the CD they are horrible. The only way to get good timing is to play along with the music, even if it means struggling a little more.

The only way to really develope you ear is to "Fish" for those notes and find the proper chords vs getting them off of a tab. My 11 year old bass student watches me and learns that way, even if I write it down he rarely looks at the paperor tabs. I guess I am just old school and self taught but I know what I have seen, and tabs have ruined countless guitarists or enabled people to think they can really play guitar when they actually can't...

[VILLANOVA]

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[VILLANOVA]

I agree with you, Jonesy, though tabs can be useful.

I was merely asking for tabs because I needed to learn it for tomorrow. I didn't have the time nor the energy to sit down and figure it out by ear.

I think tabs take out a lot of the work and time needed to become a better guitarist and am not a big fan of them myself. I learn songs by listening to records and playing along with the song (as well as my band).

Sorry if I came off as immature and inexperienced just for asking for some tabs.

[VILLANOVA]

Originally Posted by lowe

i have that book, no scanner though. i could record it with a camera

Haha, just maybe....

I figured out the intro by ear, wasn't too tough, but the chords and random noises Hendrix made get very hard to analyze at times haha

[jonesy]

Originally Posted by VILLANOVA

I agree with you, Jonesy, though tabs can be useful.

I was merely asking for tabs because I needed to learn it for tomorrow. I didn't have the time nor the energy to sit down and figure it out by ear.

I think tabs take out a lot of the work and time needed to become a better guitarist and am not a big fan of them myself. I learn songs by listening to records and playing along with the song (as well as my band).

Sorry if I came off as immature and inexperienced just for asking for some tabs.

Well you did not explain it that way in your original post, but that does not really change things either way. And you say you don't have the "time or energy" to figure it out by ear. IMO Every body wants to be a good player but few will commit the "time and energy" that it takes to really be good.

And I am just being honest, bro. Many times I am "Bluntly Honest" but I am also that way with myself and it is a cruel world out there if you go to jam with other players that are much more experienced than you. By practicing hard and using all means available to learn you can save you self some humiliation and have the real skills it takes to be a great guitarist.

Take what I am saying with a grain of salt, I did not take time out to write these posts cause I was trying to "Beat you up" or make you feel bad. Rather I am posting this in hopes at least one person will read it and use some of what I said to help them be a better guitarist that can get the job done in the Real World.

I do not mean any disrespect, and it is just one mans opinion take it or leave it...so no need to be sorry, It's a long way to the top if you want to Rock n Roll

Here is a song no one should need a tab for...
peace, jonesy

YouTube - AC/DC - Its A Long Way To The Top If Ya Wanna Rock And Roll

YouTube - AC/DC - Its A Long Way To The Top If Ya Wanna Rock And Roll

[VILLANOVA]

Jonesy, you just reminded me about how good that song is. Haven't heard that one in a while haha.

[shtdaprdtr]

Originally Posted by jonesy

Today it is so much easier to learn guitar than ever before, with Tabs, utube, dvds's etc. and I agree tabs have their purpose (many are in correct though) but have made a bunch of "Lazy" mediocre guitarists IMO.

Had a 14 kid come in last week that was friends with one of my drum students. I asked him what he new how to play. He starts playing surfing with the alien " by joe satriani that he learned from tabs. OMG his timing was pathetic, it was actually sad. I showed him 8th note rock a lesson/song that I teach to all my students so he could jam along on something with us. It is basic Rock in 4/4 time E/G/A/E 2x and then C/D/E/E 2x and he couldn't play it or follow along and said he needed that tabs. He looked like he was ready to cry when I told him that in the real world he wasn't going to get tabs for a lot of stuff when he went to jam with other people.

I have seen so many people that have learned songs from tabs and can play the notes and chords in the correct fretboard postions but have terrible timing. They sit can sit their and fumble thorugh the tab, but when they atempt to play along with the CD they are horrible. The only way to get good timing is to play along with the music, even if it means struggling a little more.

The only way to really develope you ear is to "Fish" for those notes and find the proper chords vs getting them off of a tab. My 11 year old bass student watches me and learns that way, even if I write it down he rarely looks at the paperor tabs. I guess I am just old school and self taught but I know what I have seen, and tabs have ruined countless guitarists or enabled people to think they can really play guitar when they actually can't...

dont blame the tabs....the kid just sucked shit. He had no timing...I see that all the time. You need rythym. I started with tabs when I was younger...before youtube and shit..but I played along with albums and made sure i was up to speed on everything...but i always had a sense of rythym even before i started playing. Me and my rythym guitarist rehearse without the rest of the band and our timing is dead on and tight that we always come in on the exact parts without any clicks or anything...you sense it....even on an improv jam.

[jonesy]

Originally Posted by shtdaprdtr

dont blame the tabs....the kid just sucked shit. He had no timing...I see that all the time. You need rythym. I started with tabs when I was younger...before youtube and shit..but I played along with albums and made sure i was up to speed on everything...but i always had a sense of rythym even before i started playing. Me and my rythym guitarist rehearse without the rest of the band and our timing is dead on and tight that we always come in on the exact parts without any clicks or anything...you sense it....even on an improv jam.

I agree that some people have more natural talent than others, and I was born with good rhythm as well( better than many drummers I have jammed with)so I know exactly what you are talking about bro. But if the kid would have spent more time playing along with the actual Music, than just learning from tabs he could have developed better timing. BTW I would not say that he "totally sucked shit" I would say he had a major reality check and with some work could probbaly go on to be a decent player. He was living in a "Guitar Hero World" up until I pointed a few things out to him.

The way you are practicing without the rest of the band is the same way I do it, and when you do your homework and practice the songs and know how they go, things click much better with the rest of the band. That is where the term "Lead guitar Player" comes from IMO it is your job to lead the band.

Don't get me wrong I am not saying I never to use tabs, or tabs are worthless. What I am saying is I think people want the "Easy way" and use them as a crutch. Do you thinks tabs would have made Angus, Hendrix, EVH, SRV or Jimmy Page better, they all earned without them????

Here is a novel idea...Next time any one of you guys out there want to learn a song, instead of running to ultimate guitar (my favorite tab site BTW) spend a few hours or even a couple of days trying to learn a song by ear, Then pull up the tabs and see how you did. You may find that you learned it better that way and that some or many of the tabs posted for that song are wrong or incomplete. Just a thought...

[jonesy]

Originally Posted by VILLANOVA

Jonesy, you just reminded me about how good that song is. Haven't heard that one in a while haha.

I hope it made you smile bro

[Real_Hip_Hop]

Originally Posted by jonesy

Here is a novel idea...Next time any one of you guys out there want to learn a song, instead of running to ultimate guitar (my favorite tab site BTW) spend a few hours or even a couple of days trying to learn a song by ear, Then pull up the tabs and see how you did. You may find that you learned it better that way and that some or many of the tabs posted for that song are wrong or incomplete. Just a thought...

That's a good idea. I've done that a couple times before. You'd be surprised at how close you can get. I think a big reason why people run to tabs (I'm still just a novice and I do it a fair bit) is because of fear of inaccuracy. They'd rather have the comfort of seeing a tab written by someone they feel is more experienced. Which is a fine idea, but not if you want to someday be that more experienced guy picking the song apart by ear and making the tabs. For me personally, I usually need the tab to get me going so I figure out where the guitarists hands are. After a bit of the intro (of each part of the song) with a tab, I can usually figure the rest out by ear.

[lowe]

i run things through audacity, change the tempo so it slows it down without pitch change, then figure it out. or go to youtube, tabs is my last choice.

[jguitarnash]

Great Jimi tune. I have been wanting to find the tabs for this one for quite a while too-but Jonesy is right. Gotta put the time in and learn it by ear. (Telling myself this as well, because there is no instant gratification with this, it can be pretty tough.)

Remember Jimi was usually a half step down, so that would help some. I think its safe to say Jimi used the Minor Pentatonic/Blues Scales the most too, so theres another starting point. Jimi never played songs exactly the same- I think a lot of his approach is "keep the groove going" and keep it interesting. Hope this helps!

[Angus]

Originally Posted by jonesy

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Do you thinks tabs would have made Angus, Hendrix, EVH, SRV or Jimmy Page better, they all earned without them????

In Page's case, I'd say it was worth a try.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by lowe

i run things through audacity, change the tempo so it slows it down without pitch change, then figure it out. or go to youtube, tabs is my last choice.

We each use different routes to enter the "temple of understanding". Some people learn best by seeing somebody perform the task, some people do better by reading (tabs) and some people have a good ear. I haven't, I've always been rubbish at tring to work out other people's stuff by ear, and I don't really like tab. Youtube and lick library dvds are excellent for me, and thanks to them I can spend time practicing songs that otherwise would be a closed book to me.

[paulygates]

Tab is a useful tool but it definitely has its flaws. I find it more satisfying to learn by ear but sometimes I need to learn something quickly. I will find a TAB that looks like it might be right and from there I will work out how it should be done.

I agree that you shouldn't rely on TAB exclusively. Listen to the music and try to play it in time. Rhythm is so important. If I hit a bum note here and there I will sound a lot better than if I hit it note for note but the rhythm is all out of whack.

[VILLANOVA]

For the record, I ended up figuring out the song by ear and I've got about 70% of it down so far

[jonesy]

Originally Posted by VILLANOVA

For the record, I ended up figuring out the song by ear and I've got about 70% of it down so far

Hey that is nice to hear, I am really proud of you and anyone that takes the time to learn songs by ear. I think with that approach you will also build confidence in your abilities and learn your strengths and weakness's...
ROCK ON!!!

[Paragon]

You have to take tabs with a grain of salt unless written by the artist. A lot of the tabs out there are incorrect in that they are not accurate to how the original score was played. Also, you are without the musical script with the note length etc.

I am teaching myself guitar and usually do a lot of listening and youtube watching of the originals with what tabs I have to get the notes right. There have been quite a few songs I started to learn that the lessons have had more complicated chords than the original.

For me, tabs are ok for some things but I learn better by watching someone. I'm working on Little Wing and the best instruction on Hendrix that I have found is Andy Aledort stuff (guitar world)

learning guitar is more than just looking at the numbers on 6 lines.

[paulygates]

TAB and video/youtube can be useful but as Jonesy has said, it is better if you can do it by ear. You will be surprised at how easy it is once you start. It is much more rewarding and I think you will find you really learn more about your instrument.

[jonesy]

Originally Posted by paulygates

TAB and video/youtube can be useful but as Jonesy has said, it is better if you can do it by ear. You will be surprised at how easy it is once you start. It is much more rewarding and I think you will find you really learn more about your instrument.

For sure Pauly...I know my ear got better as I went along, used to be happy to get a few guitar licks right but it helpedf me a lot.
There was an FM 95.3 AOR Classic Rock station up in South western MI where I grew up that came in pretty clear. It was fun to jam along with a lot of that stuff be fore CD's even came out

[AngryHatter]

Originally Posted by jonesy

Tabs Schmabs, do your self a favor and sit down with the video and let you ears be the guide. Even if it takes you weeks to learn it you will be much better off. IMHO Tabs have ruined a generation of guitarists...

YouTube - Jimi Hendrix - In From The Storm

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