Rest under chord?

[IfItRocks]

What does it mean when there is a rest under a note?

Can someone help me count this measure?

[LiveSimply]

IfItRocks, whatever graphic you've included doesn't appear on the thread. Without seeing it, though, if the piece has multiple voicings (a bass line underneath the melody, for instance), the rest may be telling you when one of the voices will kick in again. To be certain, though, try posting the pic again.

[IfItRocks]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/68868310@N03/6631044319/

Any help would be appreciated!

[AngryHatter]

Bass note is given the rest.
You should be playing: Rest, play the two notes, play a bass note then 2 note interval, play a bass note then 2 note interval

[LiveSimply]

Hmmm, I may read that a bit differently than Hatter (or I may be misunderstanding his post) and wouldn't mind someone clarifying, but if I were counting it, I would do so as follows:

"1 & 2 & 3 & 4 &"

with the F#/C quarter notes (double stops) taking the "1"

the D bass quarter note taking the "&" [the first underlying bass note]

The next F#/C quarter notes taking the "2"

the second D bass eighth note taking the "&", which should be held 1 beat given the tie

The G/B half notes taking the "3"

Then the last three notes (G,A and B) taking the "& 4 &"


The eight note rest under the F#/C just clarifies for you that the bass voicing underneath will come in after those first notes are played (an eighth note after to be exact).

If I am wrong, I am prepared for my stoning.

[Bristol Posse]

Originally Posted by LiveSimply

Hmmm, I may read that a bit differently than Hatter (or I may be misunderstanding his post) and wouldn't mind someone clarifying, but if I were counting it, I would do so as follows:

"1 & 2 & 3 & 4 &"

with the F#/C quarter notes (double stops) taking the "1"

the D bass quarter note taking the "&" [the first underlying bass note]

The next F#/C quarter notes taking the "2"

the second D bass eighth note taking the "&", which should be held 1 beat given the tie

The G/B half notes taking the "3"

Then the last three notes (G,A and B) taking the "& 4 &"


The eight note rest under the F#/C just clarifies for you that the bass voicing underneath will come in after those first notes are played (an eighth note after to be exact).

If I am wrong, I am prepared for my stoning.

I agree with this the rest is for the D note, the bassline part is syncopated off the beat while the double stop/chords are on the beat

[IfItRocks]

Originally Posted by LiveSimply

Hmmm, I may read that a bit differently than Hatter (or I may be misunderstanding his post) and wouldn't mind someone clarifying, but if I were counting it, I would do so as follows:

"1 & 2 & 3 & 4 &"

with the F#/C quarter notes (double stops) taking the "1"

the D bass quarter note taking the "&" [the first underlying bass note]

The next F#/C quarter notes taking the "2"

the second D bass eighth note taking the "&", which should be held 1 beat given the tie

The G/B half notes taking the "3"

Then the last three notes (G,A and B) taking the "& 4 &"


The eight note rest under the F#/C just clarifies for you that the bass voicing underneath will come in after those first notes are played (an eighth note after to be exact).

If I am wrong, I am prepared for my stoning.

I've got it now..Thanks!

[LiveSimply]

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[LiveSimply]

Originally Posted by IfItRocks

I've got it now..Thanks!

cool

[zontar]

Figure it for a guitar part like that--but somebody else already answered it--took some classical lessons as a kid and some refresher as an adult.

[Nay]

I agree with LiveSimply that it is clearly there to ensure an 1/8th pause before the "bass" line kicks in...

However, we can't see the bar before it. Could it be there to specifically point out that you release the previous note?

For example, a quater note is commonly held down for quater of the bar, not just played for an 1/8th... So could this be potentially to make the player release for example a whole or half note from the bar before, which gives the rest more pronouciation... if I'm making sense...

I'm just trying to remember years of jazz piano from a long time ago...!

[LiveSimply]

Originally Posted by Nay

I agree with LiveSimply that it is clearly there to ensure an 1/8th pause before the "bass" line kicks in...

However, we can't see the bar before it. Could it be there to specifically point out that you release the previous note?

For example, a quater note is commonly held down for quater of the bar, not just played for an 1/8th... So could this be potentially to make the player release for example a whole or half note from the bar before, which gives the rest more pronouciation... if I'm making sense...

I'm just trying to remember years of jazz piano from a long time ago...!

Hey, Nay. I can't say that in my experience reading standard notation I've ever encountered the example you site, if I'm understanding you correctly, where a rest would be actively utilized to aggressively cut off a note so it's not held for its full value. I'm not saying such notation doesn't exist, just that I've personally never come across it (that would have just confused the lights out of me).

[Bristol Posse]

Originally Posted by Nay

I agree with LiveSimply that it is clearly there to ensure an 1/8th pause before the "bass" line kicks in...

However, we can't see the bar before it. Could it be there to specifically point out that you release the previous note?

For example, a quater note is commonly held down for quater of the bar, not just played for an 1/8th... So could this be potentially to make the player release for example a whole or half note from the bar before, which gives the rest more pronouciation... if I'm making sense...

I'm just trying to remember years of jazz piano from a long time ago...!

I've never encountered this. If you wanted a note to cut off after 1/8th instead of 1/4 you'd just write the last note of the bar as a quaver and a quaver rest. the notation itself tells you how long to let any note ring for although stylistically I guess people can choose to follow the instruction rigidly or not. If you wanted it really abrupt, mark it as staccato.
A rest in the next bar won't have any impact on the current bar unless it is tied to a rest in the current bar

YMMV