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Unread 04-29-2008, 11:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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1953 Gibson Les Paul Gold Top- $2400

is this a good deal???
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Unread 04-29-2008, 11:20 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: 1953 Gibson Les Paul Gold Top- $2400

That would depend on whether or not it is authentic, the condition, original parts and pieces, etc. If it is real, and in reasonably good shape, that is a very good price. (actually, too good of a price to believe) Keep in mind, the 1953 (and '54) was not a great "players" guitar. I had one in my youth and it was difficult to keep in tune because of the wrap-over bridge. Mine was a late 53 (no trapeze). These are better as a collectible/investment if they are in good condition. Doesn't mean you can't play them, though. I played mine for several years. The old P-90's were great. I do think my new P-90 Goldtop is a better playing instrument.
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Re: 1953 Gibson Les Paul Gold Top- $2400

Like LJ says, too good. Even in poor condition they tend to fetch quite a bit more than that.
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Re: 1953 Gibson Les Paul Gold Top- $2400

well from the pictures ive seen, it looks to be in very good condition. the seller assures me that it is a 53 gibson, not a replica. that his brother, who just passed away use to have it.

the price sounds way to good to be true... ive asked him for a serial number, ill let u guys know what he says. any other tell signs that would let me know its a fake?

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Re: 1953 Gibson Les Paul Gold Top- $2400

yeah no way sounds like a big fat crock of s*** to me. IMHO

gives me nice dreams though

im with LJ too. the one chance i had to play one back in like 78 didnt feel all to good im my hands and i remember the owner talking about tuning probs as well. . it dont mean i wouldnt snatch one up given the chance though
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Re: 1953 Gibson Les Paul Gold Top- $2400

post the pics on here. I'm not positive, but I think if it's early '53, it might not have a serial number (like the '52s)

Is it a trapeze or a wrap tail?
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Re: 1953 Gibson Les Paul Gold Top- $2400

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is this a good deal???
you must be forgetting to add a zero...
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Re: 1953 Gibson Les Paul Gold Top- $2400

here is the pic i was provided with... and the message it has.

"1953 Gibson Les Paul Gold Top >This item is a 100% original 1953 Les Paul Gold Top ONE OWNER!!!! "
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Re: 1953 Gibson Les Paul Gold Top- $2400

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here is the pic i was provided with... and the message it has.

"1953 Gibson Les Paul Gold Top >This item is a 100% original 1953 Les Paul Gold Top ONE OWNER!!!! "
It looks good from what I can see, but you really need more photos (headstock, back of the neck and body, inside the cavity where the pots and caps are located, under the pickups, etc).

Here is a link to check the serial number (if you can get it).
Mine had a serial number, this one should as well...

The Guitar Dater Project - Determine the date of your guitar by its serial number
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Re: 1953 Gibson Les Paul Gold Top- $2400

the price seems too good to be true, can you get a hands-on of the guitar, or do you have to send him money?
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Re: 1953 Gibson Les Paul Gold Top- $2400

Do you know the seller? This sounds like a craigslist scam to me, and IIRC, that picture looks vaguely familiar...like I've seen it posted on another forum.
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Do you know the seller? This sounds like a craigslist scam to me, and IIRC, that picture looks vaguely familiar...like I've seen it posted on another forum.
it is from craigslist... didnt know they were alot of gibson scams. the guitar is in canada, so i cant play it. i have asked for the serial, hopefully can get it.
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Re: 1953 Gibson Les Paul Gold Top- $2400

That ain't right. I've never seen a stock 53 with a wraparound.

If it is real, it has had a neck reset and the wraparound bridge added.
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Re: 1953 Gibson Les Paul Gold Top- $2400

Be *very* careful! I don't want to splash water on your fire, but yes, there's tons of Gibson scams on craigslist. Pictures copied from elsewhere etc. Ask the seller to provide a very specific picture to prove that he even has the guitar...yoiu might be surprised by the answer.
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Re: 1953 Gibson Les Paul Gold Top- $2400

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here is the pic i was provided with... and the message it has.

"1953 Gibson Les Paul Gold Top >This item is a 100% original 1953 Les Paul Gold Top ONE OWNER!!!! "

LIES!
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Re: 1953 Gibson Les Paul Gold Top- $2400

That's a TOTAL SCAM!!

Notice the camera logo on the low right corner of the picture, that is an Ebay logo for their posted pics, so most likely the scamming seller took that picture from Ebay.

Get away from that SCAMMER while you can!!
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Re: 1953 Gibson Les Paul Gold Top- $2400

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That ain't right. I've never seen a stock 53 with a wraparound.

If it is real, it has had a neck reset and the wraparound bridge added.
I had one with the wraparound back in the mid 70's. It was a late '53 model made after they dumped the trapeze bridge. I guess it could have been a '54, but the old guy I bought it from said he took it with him on his honeymoon when he and his wife got married in Nov. 1953...
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Re: 1953 Gibson Les Paul Gold Top- $2400

Yeah... definitely ask for new pictures with a sheet of paper include in pics with todays date written on it... always pays to be vigilant!
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Re: 1953 Gibson Les Paul Gold Top- $2400

And rule of thumb for Craigslist:
* DEAL LOCALLY WITH FOLKS YOU CAN MEET IN PERSON - follow this one simple rule and you will avoid 99% of the scam attempts on craigslist.

*NEVER WIRE FUNDS VIA WESTERN UNION, MONEYGRAM or any other wire service - anyone who asks you to do so is a scammer.

More check this:
craigslist | avoiding scams and fraud
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Re: 1953 Gibson Les Paul Gold Top- $2400

im pretty sure its a scam, i think im just gonna lead him on. Currently another guy is trying to scam me from nigeria... i keep playing him along, hopefully hell spend all his money calling me. F#%king scamers sent me a fake paypal email.
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Re: 1953 Gibson Les Paul Gold Top- $2400

I'd guess it's a scam, price is too low for it to be the real deal, and although it is not a good picture, it just doesn't look like a 55 year old guitar. It could be a Payless fake goldtop
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Re: 1953 Gibson Les Paul Gold Top- $2400

Total scam. There is another thread with that same pic here as well as multiple old eBay auctions with the same pic.

BTW I "phished" a little regarding the email address from craigslist response the first time it came around and it was a "responder" email address. Got different servers on the email headers for each response. If I had a little more time and "want" I'd love to track their ass down.

He/she has been running that scam in different places for about a month now.

Run away... run far away.

Also here is the old eBay auction that looks like it MIGHT be the original legit auction for that pic

1953 Gibson Les Paul Gold Top - eBay (item 170199934988 end time Mar-17-08 15:31:26 PDT)
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Re: 1953 Gibson Les Paul Gold Top- $2400

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I had one with the wraparound back in the mid 70's. It was a late '53 model made after they dumped the trapeze bridge. I guess it could have been a '54, but the old guy I bought it from said he took it with him on his honeymoon when he and his wife got married in Nov. 1953...
well, damn, I learn something new. Every 53 I have seen had the trapeze.
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Re: 1953 Gibson Les Paul Gold Top- $2400

It's a scam . He posting everywhere on craigslist.. Here in the east atleast
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well, damn, I learn something new. Every 53 I have seen had the trapeze.
Well, the old guy could have been wrong too... He was an old coot living in a shack waaaay back in the woods and was pretty near drunk when I bought the guitar. (the movie Deliverence sorta comes to mind...) Back then I didn't have a way to check the serial number for the manufacture date so I just took his word for it... Hell, I have a hard time remembering how long I've been married, too... (24 yrs, I think)
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scam.
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Re: 1953 Gibson Les Paul Gold Top- $2400

This is a scam. It's been on many craigslist sites across the country, for a month at least.. Don't know what the goal was, but the guy has sure pissed a lot of people off. Must just want to get attention.
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Re: 1953 Gibson Les Paul Gold Top- $2400

i asked him for a picture of the serial number, this is what he sent. it seems there is a number missing.

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Also here is the old eBay auction that looks like it MIGHT be the original legit auction for that pic

1953 Gibson Les Paul Gold Top - eBay (item 170199934988 end time Mar-17-08 15:31:26 PDT)
i checked this link out, he is defenetly getting the the pictures from this site. the picture of the serial, which i have posted, is the same one on the ebay link you have given me. im just gonna play along so that i can get his adress. maybe someone cwho is close can go pay him a visit. any cops on this forum??!?!
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Re: 1953 Gibson Les Paul Gold Top- $2400

This was in the Raleigh area Craigslist just the other day. I responded to it with the intent of being honest, and telling the guy it was worth much more than that.

E-mail couldn't be sent due to "invalid address", and the ad was taken down mere minutes after I looked!

Stay away from it....
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