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Unread 02-17-2010, 10:07 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Identifying and valuating a 1967 Les Paul Custom

I found this form looking For info on a Les Paul that I've come into. The serial number puts it at 1967, but after reading here for a while I'm dubious about this.

What should I look for other than the made in the usa?
The color is ivory.
S/n 012998
I'm posting from my iphone and cannot post pics. (actually crashed my phone when i tried to). I'll post pics from my computer a little later.
What details would be helpful?
Thanks everyone.

By the way, I actually came into a second late model les paul red wine custom too. I'm slightly overwhelmed ; )
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Re: Identifying and valuating a 1967 Les Paul Custom

Les Pauls were discontinued after 1960 and not reintroduced until 1968.
Post some photos of the guitar you are referring to.
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Re: Identifying and valuating a 1967 Les Paul Custom

Images are here at photobucket:
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I can take more photos ... just tell me what you need.

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Re: Identifying and valuating a 1967 Les Paul Custom

Um... That's a 2001 '68 reissue.
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Re: Identifying and valuating a 1967 Les Paul Custom

Oh my

Dennis needs to complete this thread.
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Re: Identifying and valuating a 1967 Les Paul Custom

It's actually a nice sight for me as I am obviously a big fan '68RIs. I had no idea they made them in Classic White that early in the model's run, particularly sans guard. Cool guitar.
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Re: Identifying and valuating a 1967 Les Paul Custom

The first two numbers are the year, the next three numbers are its place in the production year, and the last number is the model.

012998 would be the 299th '68RI built in 2001.


They are the only Les Pauls ever made to have impressed, six digit serial numbers with a Custom Shop logo.
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Re: Identifying and valuating a 1967 Les Paul Custom

Fantastic! Thank you!
What's it worth?
I'm going to post some pics of the red wine custom that i have as well. Maybe you can help me ID it?
Thanks again.
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Re: Identifying and valuating a 1967 Les Paul Custom

I'd say $2,500 at the most... And yes, I can ID the other one too.
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Re: Identifying and valuating a 1967 Les Paul Custom

Wine red Les Paul Custom with "made in the USA" stamped on it
s/n 91179366

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Re: Identifying and valuating a 1967 Les Paul Custom

Trying to decide which one to keep ...
I've been playing the same guild s90 (which is a Gibson SG clone) for 20 years. I really love it. It has a certain grab in the mids. But these les pauls are creamy and lush and oh so dirty through a mesa.

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Re: Identifying and valuating a 1967 Les Paul Custom

Boles, you need to get paid for doing this shite.
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Re: Identifying and valuating a 1967 Les Paul Custom

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Wine red Les Paul Custom with "made in the USA" stamped on it
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Boles, you need to get paid for doing this shite.
Truly. However, community is a wonderful thing .... Gearslutz.com - Powered by vBulletin is where I spend most of my time. I work in mixing/post production/recording mostly.

Thanks a lot man. Saved me a trip to manhattan with these two.
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Re: Identifying and valuating a 1967 Les Paul Custom

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Wine red Les Paul Custom with "made in the USA" stamped on it
s/n 91179366

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'99 Custom, built in the USA factory. Non-reissue Customs weren't built in the CS until '04. No CS Gibsons have 'made in the USA' anywhere on them.
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Re: Identifying and valuating a 1967 Les Paul Custom

so which is the better guitar? which would you keep?
Thank you so much for this information

When you say CS you mean "custom shop" right?

Are the custom shop guitars better made?
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so which is the better guitar? which would you keep?
Play and decide for yourself. Would you really defer to in internet forum to tell you which guitar is better?
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so which is the better guitar? which would you keep?
Thank you so much for this information

When you say CS you mean "custom shop" right?

Are the custom shop guitars better made?


Yes, CS means Custom Shop. And I can't tell you which one is better. CS guitars generally are better built. The '68 is not weight relieved or chambered and it has a long neck tenon... The '99 is weight relieved and has a short tenon. None of that really makes a damn when it comes down to it. Which one plays and sounds the best? There's your answer.
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Re: Identifying and valuating a 1967 Les Paul Custom

I appreciate your concern. sure, I value opinions. This looks to be a decent community of guys. Bolez has been really helpful and friendly.

So, why not? I just did for the ID right?
Can't do any harm. Just opinions on the web. I just need a place to start.

I'm going to bump my previous question.

I'm googling around and it seems like the reissues get a lot of love.

I just don't know anything about these guitars and, like I said, I came into these. I'm not really a guitar player and I want to keep just one for the studio. That is, for a "guitar player".

Thanks again guys.

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Re: Identifying and valuating a 1967 Les Paul Custom

Thanks bolez. Maybe you can PM your opinion. I'm thinking about current market value and the long term value retention.

It will be slightly for show in the studio, but also for the occasional guitarist that may need to overdub something etc

I mix for the most part. But I do have a room for vocal and guitar overdubs if need be. Have a strat, the SG and now a choice of les pauls.

I will certainly ask around, but I thought I'd get opinions here since I already started.

Thanks again guys.
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Re: Identifying and valuating a 1967 Les Paul Custom

I can't PM you until you have 50 posts, but I can tell you that the '68RI will hold its value much better than the other. It's a showier piece as well in my opinion. I have three of them.
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Re: Identifying and valuating a 1967 Les Paul Custom

Man, that's like Sophie's choice. I think you better keep em both.
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Re: Identifying and valuating a 1967 Les Paul Custom

Keep the 68RI.

Sell the '99 Wine Red on the Classifieds section here.

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Re: Identifying and valuating a 1967 Les Paul Custom

I was just messing with the les pauls and an angus young sg that I got with this package.

The neck on the 68 is a lot thicker and the sound is round or full in the mid midrange.
The 99 has a more "compressed" sound and perhaps slightly more upper midrange presence...slightly dirtier than the 68.
Still a very tough call. I should get these setup and go at it again.

In terms of the metal riffs that I can jam, the SG has the best sound with my mesa boogie. But my buddy has dibs on this guitar though. He's a big angus fan and always wanted one of these.

Thanks for the help and for the opining. Any more opinions on the les paul guitars would be appreciated. I won't sell them here to avoid a conflict of interest. Probably put them at matt uminov or 30th street guitars.
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Re: Identifying and valuating a 1967 Les Paul Custom

Funny how I started this thread with that silly title! haha Thanks for putting up with a "guy from the other side of the glass". haahaha 67! Seriously, guys. The Gibson website had both me and my buddy fooled. It lists 67 as a date that these guitars were made.
I don't know ... that's why I looked around for a les paul forum. I knew that there would be online community of obsessive les paul peeps! Guess I found 'em!
I'll be sticking around here for sure ... I'm keeping one of these gems.
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I appreciate your concern. sure, I value opinions. This looks to be a decent community of guys. Bolez has been really helpful and friendly.
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Funny how I started this thread with that silly title! haha Thanks for putting up with a "guy from the other side of the glass". haahaha 67! Seriously, guys. The Gibson website had both me and my buddy fooled. It lists 67 as a date that these guitars were made.
I don't know ... that's why I looked around for a les paul forum. I knew that there would be online community of obsessive les paul peeps! Guess I found 'em!
I'll be sticking around here for sure ... I'm keeping one of these gems.

Mord,

Late '60s Gibson serial numbers can be a minefield. I used to have a '69 Les Paul Custom with the serial number 893626. Look that up, and it will show a '67, which is patently wrong, because they first appeared again in '68. So always check a place like this, and with a good question you will always get the info you need.

Hope this helps.
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Re: Identifying and valuating a 1967 Les Paul Custom

I'd keep the '68 RI but, only because I like the color better. I'd just try them both out and if they both feel like equally great guitars, go with your favorite color.
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Mord,

Late '60s Gibson serial numbers can be a minefield. I used to have a '69 Les Paul Custom with the serial number 893626. Look that up, and it will show a '67, which is patently wrong, because they first appeared again in '68. So always check a place like this, and with a good question you will always get the info you need.

Hope this helps.
Thank you. Very good advice. Which one would you keep? The 68 reissue or the 99 custom?
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