NGD!!! 2008 made 2002 Spec Les Paul Standard

Goldtop75 · 11-07-2009, 05:54 AM

Oldie, but goodie... Been sitting in the store for about 2 years now, and I managed to pick it up at a sale event. Really took a chance too! They don't allow testing during the sale event. You buy "as is". I was damned lucky, I must say. I straped it in just now, played it, and my spine was vibrating when I played around the 5th frets. Its very resonant, and sustains madly...

Surprised to find a top like this still hanging around... Maybe not many like not so heavily flamed flatsawn tops like me... heh...

It's a lightburst...

What's in this one? anyone know? Burstbucker Pros? I like them quite a lot, whatever they are... Wondering if anyone can shed some light on this. Was contemplating changing bridges if the guitar didn't pay right. But now, it seems that no modifications are needed!

It's also oddly light for a non-chambered LP... It's lighter than my Slash GT!

Dannyelectro · 11-07-2009, 08:11 AM

Just beautimous! Big congrats.

R9. · 11-07-2009, 08:30 AM

Gorgeous top! Post some more pictures of that baby!!

2008s are chambered.

Goldtop75 · 11-07-2009, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R9.

2008s are chambered.

Not this one... It's 2002 spec, and my dealer had quite a few of these. Swiss Cheese. This one happened to be lighter than most...

Lemme get more pics soon. hope the sun is out tomorrow.

Justin_Case · 11-07-2009, 08:48 AM

Lucky for you, and my wallet, that I never set foot in the shop you picked this bad boy.

Very nice top.

Congrats

LPV · 11-07-2009, 08:57 AM

Congrats that's a beauty!

Just out of curiosity, if it turned out to be chambered would you still want it ?

Not questioning what you are saying but the pre-2008 2008 standards are all 2002 spec, even the chambered ones. Gibson uses that term to describe the guitar from 2002 prior to the latest incarnation.

ExpatBrit · 11-07-2009, 09:14 AM

Sounds like a pre 2008 spec (no Plek, PCB, or Asymmetric neck) 2008 Standard to me. I have one too - great score, and yes, it is chambered.

FennRx · 11-07-2009, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LPV

Congrats that's a beauty!

Just out of curiosity, if it turned out to be chambered would you still want it ?

if it were me, i would get rid of it if its chambered. that ruins everything for me and the guitar wouldnt sound as good after that.

to the OP, you're guitar is chambered. no big deal though, if she sounds great (and i know she looks great, hot damn!) then you have a keeper! congrats!

Mr Bill · 11-07-2009, 10:01 AM

Hello Goldtop75,

Gibson's in house designation for this guitar is 0208.
This model is still in production for volume dealers.
I own one and it's chambered which is fine.
Great guitars they are.

Cheers.

R9. · 11-07-2009, 11:16 AM

What LPV said is my understanding of the term "2002 spec" as well. In 2002, Gibson changed a few small things on the Standard, things like the binding through the horn now exposing a bit of the maple cap. When Gibson first started chambering in late 2006, everything about the guitar remained the same except for the chambered body.

Having said that, there is always a possibility that Gibson made a run of 2008 swiss cheesed Standards for a dealer. Out of curiosity, I called Gibson and asked them this...but the dealer would have to order A LOT of them in order to get them. So, unless this dealer bought 25+ 2008 swiss cheesed Standards, yours is most likely chambered. The fact that yours "happened to be lighter than most" should give you an indication...

There is nothing wrong with chambered Les Pauls...except for d*ckheads like FennRx.

Different league, I know, but I'll put this chambered R8 up against anybody's solid/swiss cheese Les Paul.

LongBeach · 11-07-2009, 12:05 PM

congrats! great looking standard!

Boleskinehouse · 11-07-2009, 12:09 PM

If it's a 2008, it's chambered.

r9in09 · 11-07-2009, 01:57 PM

Hey, if you don't want it now that you know it's chambered... I'll gladly take it off your hands.

LPV · 11-07-2009, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FennRx

if it were me, i would get rid of it if its chambered. that ruins everything for me and the guitar wouldnt sound as good after that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by R9.

There is nothing wrong with chambered Les Pauls...except for d*ckheads like FennRx.

Chamber = Good
FennRx = BAD

Atomic · 11-07-2009, 02:27 PM

i have one too!

its chambered, and sounds awesome.
dont listen to fennrx. he rides the short bus.

Goldtop75 · 11-07-2009, 10:12 PM

Hahaha... I think you guys are right. I tapped the body in certain areas, and discovered that it is indeed chambered. Oh well. Having heard how it sounds and sings before discovering this changes how I felt about chambered LPs because I HAVE played quite a few at the stores and owned by friends that really didn't sound or play as nice. This one at least is very very nice... It's definately a keeper!

It also came with a 50s neck, which is a startling revelation for me. I always thought and felt that 50s necks were too big, and I always preferred 60s necks. But after playing it for a while, I must say the 50s neck is actually rather compfy!

Does anyone know about them pickups?

checkedgoldtop · 11-07-2009, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atomic

i have one too!

its chambered, and sounds awesome.
dont listen to fennrx. he rides the short bus.

Oh, that flame is just wild. Definite keeper!!!

Goldtop75 · 11-08-2009, 07:15 AM

More pix!

This flame is really elusive... But it's subtle, and I like it!!!

ExpatBrit · 11-08-2009, 09:58 AM

Looks good, and the pickups are Burstbucker Pros. Enjoy!

2009LPGT · 11-08-2009, 01:27 PM

VERY nice!! I love my chambered but I played a Traditional that kicked butt yesterday also. Most of the time, a slight tweak of the amp settings make it a non-issue. I am with you, I prefer that top to one that has PRS style figuring! Great find!

Boleskinehouse · 11-08-2009, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R9.

There is nothing wrong with chambered Les Pauls...except for d*ckheads like FennRx.

Different league, I know, but I'll put this chambered R8 up against anybody's solid/swiss cheese Les Paul.

And it will lose.

R9. · 11-08-2009, 01:42 PM

Goldtop75, that's a very sweet top.

I'd much rather look at that guitar than Bole's ugly ass Trad Pro.

R9. · 11-08-2009, 01:42 PM

Why all the hate, Boles?..why all the hate?

Atomic · 11-08-2009, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by checkedgoldtop

Oh, that flame is just wild. Definite keeper!!!

thankee.

lazz · 11-08-2009, 01:49 PM

beautiful guitar, who gives a shit if it's chambered. If it plays well and sounds great whats the problem?

ExpatBrit · 11-08-2009, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazz

beautiful guitar, who gives a shit if it's chambered. If it plays well and sounds great whats the problem?

This should be an automatic answer generated by MLP every time someone questions chambering. The post should then be locked.

Goldtop75 · 11-09-2009, 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R9.

Goldtop75, that's a very sweet top.

I'd much rather look at that guitar than Bole's ugly ass Trad Pro.

Hahaha... Thanks. I'm sure they're all great.

Question now is, whether I should drill in that guard. Looks a bit naked...

LPV · 11-09-2009, 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goldtop75

Hahaha... Thanks. I'm sure they're all great.

Question now is, whether I should drill in that guard. Looks a bit naked...

noooooooooo!

go screwless

Goldtop75 · 11-09-2009, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LPV

noooooooooo!

go screwless

but but but... won't it improve the tone?

R9. · 11-09-2009, 09:16 AM

I'd put a pickguard on that thing and wouldn't think twice about it.

11-07-2009, 05:54 AM	#1 (permalink)
Goldtop75 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 443 Thanks: 14 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	NGD!!! 2008 made 2002 Spec Les Paul Standard Oldie, but goodie... Been sitting in the store for about 2 years now, and I managed to pick it up at a sale event. Really took a chance too! They don't allow testing during the sale event. You buy "as is". I was damned lucky, I must say. I straped it in just now, played it, and my spine was vibrating when I played around the 5th frets. Its very resonant, and sustains madly... Surprised to find a top like this still hanging around... Maybe not many like not so heavily flamed flatsawn tops like me... heh... It's a lightburst... What's in this one? anyone know? Burstbucker Pros? I like them quite a lot, whatever they are... Wondering if anyone can shed some light on this. Was contemplating changing bridges if the guitar didn't pay right. But now, it seems that no modifications are needed! It's also oddly light for a non-chambered LP... It's lighter than my Slash GT! __________________ Lionel www.soundclick.com/demioblue

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Dannyelectro Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 78 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: NGD!!! 2008 made 2002 Spec Les Paul Standard Just beautimous! Big congrats.

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R9. Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 5,249 Thanks: 269 Thanked 222 Times in 38 Posts	Re: NGD!!! 2008 made 2002 Spec Les Paul Standard Gorgeous top! Post some more pictures of that baby!! 2008s are chambered. __________________ Historic Les Paul Database

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Justin_Case Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 269 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: NGD!!! 2008 made 2002 Spec Les Paul Standard Lucky for you, and my wallet, that I never set foot in the shop you picked this bad boy. Very nice top. Congrats

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ExpatBrit Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Minnesota Posts: 248 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: NGD!!! 2008 made 2002 Spec Les Paul Standard Sounds like a pre 2008 spec (no Plek, PCB, or Asymmetric neck) 2008 Standard to me. I have one too - great score, and yes, it is chambered. __________________ '08 Les Paul Standard '05 Fender American Standard Stratocaster Celestion loaded Avatar 2x12 Custom Phaez 18w Head

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Mr Bill Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Bucks County, Penna., USA Posts: 130 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: NGD!!! 2008 made 2002 Spec Les Paul Standard Hello Goldtop75, Gibson's in house designation for this guitar is 0208. This model is still in production for volume dealers. I own one and it's chambered which is fine. Great guitars they are. Cheers.

11-07-2009, 11:16 AM	#10 (permalink)
R9. Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 5,249 Thanks: 269 Thanked 222 Times in 38 Posts	Re: NGD!!! 2008 made 2002 Spec Les Paul Standard What LPV said is my understanding of the term "2002 spec" as well. In 2002, Gibson changed a few small things on the Standard, things like the binding through the horn now exposing a bit of the maple cap. When Gibson first started chambering in late 2006, everything about the guitar remained the same except for the chambered body. Having said that, there is always a possibility that Gibson made a run of 2008 swiss cheesed Standards for a dealer. Out of curiosity, I called Gibson and asked them this...but the dealer would have to order A LOT of them in order to get them. So, unless this dealer bought 25+ 2008 swiss cheesed Standards, yours is most likely chambered. The fact that yours "happened to be lighter than most" should give you an indication... There is nothing wrong with chambered Les Pauls...except for d*ckheads like FennRx. Different league, I know, but I'll put this chambered R8 up against anybody's solid/swiss cheese Les Paul. __________________ Historic Les Paul Database

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LongBeach Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Long Beach Ca. Posts: 7,051 Thanks: 7 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: NGD!!! 2008 made 2002 Spec Les Paul Standard congrats! great looking standard!

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r9in09 Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 479 Thanks: 12 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: NGD!!! 2008 made 2002 Spec Les Paul Standard Hey, if you don't want it now that you know it's chambered... I'll gladly take it off your hands.

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Atomic Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N'orlins :D Posts: 1,257 Thanks: 38 Thanked 19 Times in 7 Posts	Re: NGD!!! 2008 made 2002 Spec Les Paul Standard i have one too! its chambered, and sounds awesome. dont listen to fennrx. he rides the short bus. __________________ -Joe Join My Forum!!!! Multi-For Sale Thread! Urgent! click here! My band Atomic Pilot on: YouTube atomicpilot.com Myspace Twitter My Music Thread VM Worn Cherry Refin MIM Tele Refin

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Goldtop75 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 443 Thanks: 14 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Re: NGD!!! 2008 made 2002 Spec Les Paul Standard Hahaha... I think you guys are right. I tapped the body in certain areas, and discovered that it is indeed chambered. Oh well. Having heard how it sounds and sings before discovering this changes how I felt about chambered LPs because I HAVE played quite a few at the stores and owned by friends that really didn't sound or play as nice. This one at least is very very nice... It's definately a keeper! It also came with a 50s neck, which is a startling revelation for me. I always thought and felt that 50s necks were too big, and I always preferred 60s necks. But after playing it for a while, I must say the 50s neck is actually rather compfy! Does anyone know about them pickups? __________________ Lionel www.soundclick.com/demioblue

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Goldtop75 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 443 Thanks: 14 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Re: NGD!!! 2008 made 2002 Spec Les Paul Standard More pix! This flame is really elusive... But it's subtle, and I like it!!! __________________ Lionel www.soundclick.com/demioblue

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ExpatBrit Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Minnesota Posts: 248 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: NGD!!! 2008 made 2002 Spec Les Paul Standard Looks good, and the pickups are Burstbucker Pros. Enjoy! __________________ '08 Les Paul Standard '05 Fender American Standard Stratocaster Celestion loaded Avatar 2x12 Custom Phaez 18w Head

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2009LPGT Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 42 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: NGD!!! 2008 made 2002 Spec Les Paul Standard VERY nice!! I love my chambered but I played a Traditional that kicked butt yesterday also. Most of the time, a slight tweak of the amp settings make it a non-issue. I am with you, I prefer that top to one that has PRS style figuring! Great find!

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R9. Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 5,249 Thanks: 269 Thanked 222 Times in 38 Posts	Re: NGD!!! 2008 made 2002 Spec Les Paul Standard Goldtop75, that's a very sweet top. I'd much rather look at that guitar than Bole's ugly ass Trad Pro. __________________ Historic Les Paul Database

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lazz Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: glasgow scotland Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 27 Thanked 28 Times in 19 Posts	Re: NGD!!! 2008 made 2002 Spec Les Paul Standard beautiful guitar, who gives a shit if it's chambered. If it plays well and sounds great whats the problem? __________________ Put whisk down, Grobbelaar comes in peace www.myspace.com/garymillerandthebluescollective

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