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Unread 08-09-2009, 12:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Adjusting action?

I noticed some fret buzz but it's hard for me to turn the tunomatic "bridge-dials" with my fingers? I loosened the tension of the string already, how do you guys do it?
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Unread 08-09-2009, 02:09 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Adjusting action?

Just what you did. Loosen the string tension a bit and man up!

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Re: Adjusting action?

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Just what you did. Loosen the string tension a bit and man up!

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Are you suposed to do it with your fingers? The Trads don't have flat head screws in the top of the tunomatic bridge?
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Are you suposed to do it with your fingers? The Trads don't have flat head screws in the top of the tunomatic bridge?
You are trying to turn the thumb wheels that the bridge sits on aren't you?
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I noticed some fret buzz but it's hard for me to turn the tunomatic "bridge-dials" with my fingers? I loosened the tension of the string already, how do you guys do it?
There are lots of little bits and pieces that will help you with this. StewMac (Stewart-MacDonald: Everything for building and repairing stringed instruments!) makes a little tool called the bridge jack. It's designed to work as a sort of lever to lift the bridge while the strings are in full tension so that you can rotate the bridge thumbwheels. Find it and you'll see what it does and how it does it and you'll probably be able to fabricate something along those lines to do the same thing.
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Re: Adjusting action?

From what he said about the flat head screws I think he may be trying to turn the bridge posts instead of the wheels...
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You are trying to turn the thumb wheels that the bridge sits on aren't you?
Correct... if this wrong..??
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Correct... if this wrong..??
No, not at all, you just confused me as to why you mentioned flat headed screws....
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Re: Adjusting action?

Ah, my bad: all flatheaded screws are connected with the tail piece, not the tune-o-matic...

So, fingers it is then?
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Ah, my bad: all flatheaded screws are connected with the tail piece, not the tune-o-matic...

So, fingers it is then?
Fingers, as you so rightly say, it is.
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No worries, yeah should move with your fingers even under full string tension.
If it won't budge take off the strings and the bridge then rub some graphite from a pencil all around posts.
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...take off the strings and the bridge then rub some graphite from a pencil all around posts....
You guys and your 'pencil lead'....
A simple drop of oil will suffice, and will help to keep the threads from corroding in the future.
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What type of oil is best for this sort of thing?
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What type of oil is best for this sort of thing?
I find this works well:



....however, even a drop of clean motor oil will work. Wipe off any that squeezes or drips out.
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Re: Adjusting action?

I used to adhere to the pencil shaving method but it always left residue on my fingers and dirtied up the strings. Chapstick applied with a razor's my preferred method now, though what Dennis recommends (or vaseline, or KY) will work just fine
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I never like to recommend oiling things on guitars because you need to use it sparingly and really don't want oil getting into the wood of you guitar.
As Dennis says just a drop and make sure any residue is wiped off.
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Re: Adjusting action?

You guys are all ADD ("Oh Look, A squirrel!"), off on your oil discussion <G>.

Here's the StewMac bridge jack -- it's got felt on the back to keep from marring your guitar, and you can even use it while the guitar is in playing position to check the distance at the 12th fret. There are some other bridge and tailpiece tools here as well. You can probably build some variation on this contraption yourself. In fact, this was apparently a kludge...er...high concept tool (*ahem*) that StewMac found in operation at the Gibson factory to do this very thing:


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I used to adhere to the pencil shaving method but it always left residue on my fingers and dirtied up the strings. Chapstick applied with a razor's my preferred method now, though what Dennis recommends (or vaseline, or KY) will work just fine
NOT KY. That's water based lube (corrosion!) and it won't keep anything lubricated long term (read what it's made of). Vaseline is petroleum based, at least. There are also some lubes out there that leave teflon behind -- these are also excellent.

But none of these will help you get the thumbwheels turned under full bridge tension.
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You guys are all ADD ("Oh Look, A squirrel!"), off on your oil discussion <G>.

Here's the StewMac bridge jack -- it's got felt on the back to keep from marring your guitar, and you can even use it while the guitar is in playing position to check the distance at the 12th fret. There are some other bridge and tailpiece tools here as well. You can probably build some variation on this contraption yourself. In fact, this was apparently a kludge...er...high concept tool (*ahem*) that StewMac found in operation at the Gibson factory to do this very thing:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...Tailpiec-1.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...ailpiece_T.jpg


Yeah were all ADD and you go and post a whole tool kit and a ****ing jack for turning the thumbwheels....
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Yeah were all ADD and you go and post a whole tool kit and a ****ing jack for turning the thumbwheels....
LMAO!

You don't need tools to turn the thumb screws - just loosen the strings a bit, adjust the action, and retune.

But I guess that there are those anal enough to require the tools..............
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LMAO!

You don't need tools to turn the thumb screws - just loosen the strings a bit, adjust the action, and retune.

But I guess that there are those anal enough to require the tools..............
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Re: Adjusting action?

I loosen the string tension a bit and man up!
but i've got a lot of information as an amateur,so thanks guys
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