Now it´s official: chambered bodies

alexx · 02-09-2008, 09:40 AM

Check it out, dudes. Finally they´re telling us that the les pauls are chambered
GIBSON USA - Les Paul Standard

loaded six string · 02-09-2008, 10:33 AM

yeah, gibson is pretty proud of this "new and improved" les paul, all for the sake of less weight. I wonder what Les Paul's opinion is on this issue ?

ArchEtech · 02-09-2008, 10:35 AM

I don't know. He'd probably want to play one regardless.

LongBeach · 02-09-2008, 11:32 AM

I think it is what it is.
I have 2 chambered and like them both alot.
But I have 1 Classic that isnt and I really like the weight.
Granted I dont gig, so, if I did, I might have to change my tune.
I think this might be interesting in the long run, see what the pro's
have to say about it in a year or so, Gibson might have to go back to
weight releif if they get enough complaints.

alexx · 02-09-2008, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loaded six string

yeah, gibson is pretty proud of this "new and improved" les paul, all for the sake of less weight. I wonder what Les Paul's opinion is on this issue ?

Actually Les Paul´s Les paul is totally different of you think.

alexx · 02-09-2008, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArchEtech

I don't know. He'd probably want to play one regardless.

I agree

alexx · 02-09-2008, 11:58 AM

I have a chambered 2007 and LOVE IT. I´ve tested several other non-chambered Les Pauls(standards and classics), and the chambered one was my choice. I know what is like to play for almost two hours,(and what it does to my back and shoulders). But I think tone have IMPROVED( to my ears, as a semi-pro musician and a lifetime player - I´m 31 years old).

SmokestackElRopo · 02-09-2008, 12:05 PM

For me,not having a past history with the old original les pauls, I wouldn't know the difference. All 3 of my LPs are chambered and I LIKE it. Maybe I just got lucky or I don't have enuff experience.

alexx · 02-09-2008, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokestackElRopo

For me,not having a past history with the old original les pauls, I wouldn't know the difference. All 3 of my LPs are chambered and I LIKE it. Maybe I just got lucky or I don't have enuff experience.

Dude, I DO HAVE experience , had another Les some years ago, and I like my chambered very much. Of course, you have to try many guitars as possible to pic the best to YOUR ears.

Mikeeeeh · 02-09-2008, 12:13 PM

I guess tone is subjective... I've both chambered and non chambered and I prefer the non-chambered tone (agains thats just my opinion

). The chambered tone is great but I reckon it lacks some of the depth in tone I expect from wielding a Les Paul... I find it a little too bright... nudging into semi hollowbody country... but again thats just my opinion

What I don't agree with is not giving the customer the choice of either... I likes choice me

Then again its hardly the end of the world!

155 · 02-09-2008, 12:18 PM

lets face it if you own chambered youll love it if you own solid youll love it, its all good as long as its an lp

GLP4me · 02-09-2008, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 155

lets face it if you own chambered youll love it if you own solid youll love it, its all good as long as its an lp

HERE! HERE!

Roman Rist · 02-09-2008, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexx

Check it out, dudes. Finally they´re telling us that the les pauls are chambered
GIBSON USA - Les Paul Standard

In that link, I see nowhere that Gibson is stating they are all chambered.

I know they do chamber them, but I see nothing stated as such.

alexx · 02-09-2008, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikeeeeh

I guess tone is subjective... I've both chambered and non chambered and I prefer the non-chambered tone (agains thats just my opinion

). The non chambered tone is great but I reckon it lacks some of the depth in tone I expect from wielding a Les Paul... I find it a little too bright... nudging into semi hollowbody country... but again thats just my opinion

What I don't agree with is not giving the customer the choice of either... I likes choice me

Then again its hardly the end of the world!

I think the middle position with both pickups on sounds like a tele, but individually it´s 100% Les Paul ( IMHO

). But ii really sounds and feels good to me( the most important think).
But a good question is why not to have both chambered and non chambered guitars , as 50´s and 60´s neck?

Mikeeeeh · 02-09-2008, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexx

But a good question is why not to have both chambered and non chambered guitars , as 50´s and 60´s neck?

Absolutely man... the more LPs the better!

alexx · 02-09-2008, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RFR

In that link, I see nowhere that Gibson is stating they are all chambered.

I know they do chamber them, but I see nothing stated as such.

SEE "FEATURES",THEN CLICK OVER THE BODY OF THE GUITAR PICTURED( IT SAYS :"CHAMBERED BODY-CLICK FOR MORE INFO)

alexx · 02-09-2008, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikeeeeh

Absolutely man... the more LPs the better!

ArchEtech · 02-09-2008, 01:16 PM

Exactly....

I like having both. I set up my chambered with Alumitone single coils and can get a great STV strat sound, as well as other unique tones. My custom is darker, and bigger, and much different but also because of the pickups.

mrkenny · 02-13-2008, 07:58 PM

<-------CR '54. No complaints, 7.25lbs

steven21042 · 02-16-2008, 06:17 PM

Geeze, all this time I thought it was " WEIGHT RELIEVED"..

Zack-on-crack · 02-16-2008, 11:23 PM

I don't know but I've been playing guitars for 23 years and Les Pauls for 20 years. What-ever Gibson did they did to save money. What-ever Gibson markets to you is more hype, spin and symantical jibberish than science or engineering.

When they decided to chamber the Standard, they made that decision for ONE reason and it wasn't superior sound quality. It was to help them chamber more money out of your wallet and spend less of their own cash on high quality wood.

To those who say they love it...I say "whaaaah?". Everybody's going to get all freakin worked-up, but I think you're on more drugs than Hendrix was. Sometimes I think you could screw a pickup to a hockey stick, call it a Les Paul and people would drewl all over it.

Cheap, low quality mahagony is heavy....real heavy. There's only one way to lighten it up. Do the math. Tell me how much tonal technology went into that CNC mapping program? People need to wake up and smell the saw dust. That or play a few guitars from the vintage shop downtown. Maybe a kick in the crotch from reality would change some opinions.

In the end it's all an equation. This for that. I won't say a "chambered" LP is total crap. My opinion, along with wood, they should "chamber" out some of the price. Knock it down to $1500 for $2300. It would still sound harsh, trebly and impercise, but at least you would LOOK like Slash.

coldsteal2 · 02-17-2008, 01:05 AM

They sound great, my 2007 sounds as good as my 71 custom
so who carres

drewbertca · 02-17-2008, 01:16 AM

I love my chambered BFG.....it has an awesome tone....and sometimes it feels like a broken cell phone stuck on vibrate or a "personal massager" against my leg...I guess you could say it's quite satisfying to play.....I love it's tone........now get your minds out of the gutter...that is all

les strat · 02-17-2008, 01:25 AM

I have played many of the new chambered ones, and although they do sound good, they do sound different to me.... a tad spongier than the more focused sound of a solid body or even the 9 holers ("swiss cheese"). They are routed out at least 80% with not even a center block for sustain like the Cloud 9's had.

If it was all about "advancing", why did they hide fact this until guitarists folks started x-raying them and asking questions?

I just wish you had an option between the solid body and chambered in the USA Standard line, especially since it is the iconic "solid body" guitar.

alexx · 02-18-2008, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zack-on-crack

I don't know but I've been playing guitars for 23 years and Les Pauls for 20 years. What-ever Gibson did they did to save money. What-ever Gibson markets to you is more hype, spin and symantical jibberish than science or engineering.

When they decided to chamber the Standard, they made that decision for ONE reason and it wasn't superior sound quality. It was to help them chamber more money out of your wallet and spend less of their own cash on high quality wood.

To those who say they love it...I say "whaaaah?". Everybody's going to get all freakin worked-up, but I think you're on more drugs than Hendrix was. Sometimes I think you could screw a pickup to a hockey stick, call it a Les Paul and people would drewl all over it.

Cheap, low quality mahagony is heavy....real heavy. There's only one way to lighten it up. Do the math. Tell me how much tonal technology went into that CNC mapping program? People need to wake up and smell the saw dust. That or play a few guitars from the vintage shop downtown. Maybe a kick in the crotch from reality would change some opinions.

In the end it's all an equation. This for that. I won't say a "chambered" LP is total crap. My opinion, along with wood, they should "chamber" out some of the price. Knock it down to $1500 for $2300. It would still sound harsh, trebly and impercise, but at least you would LOOK like Slash.

DUDE, I DO LOVE MY LES PAUL

. AND YES, ALTHOUGH A BIT DIFFERENT, IS STILL "100% SOUNDING LES PAUL"
NOTE : NOT TWO GUITARS OF SAME YEAR, SAME MODEL, SOUND THE SAME.
AND ONCE YOU PLAY LES PAULS FOR 20 YEARS, YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT.
GIBSON MAKES GUITARS FOR THE MONEY, NOT FOR LOVE.ALWAYS.
WHAT ABOUT THE "PANKAKE BODIES SHITY YEARS"? THESE GUITARS SOUND GREAT! THE BODY CONSTRUCTION? WELL, 3 PIECES OF WOOD INSTEAD OF ONE TO INCREASE GIBSON´S PROFITS!-ooooohhhhh.......
AND IF GIBSON STARTED TO USE POOR QUALITY SUPER HEAVY MAHOGANY? THE NEW MODELS WOULD BE HEAVY AS HELL, AND PEOPLE WOULD SAY: "oh my,my, that´s heavy! that´s a lot of wood in my gorgeous guitar, great sound, .....blah,blah.how could you know that the mahogany used is cheap? By it´s weight?No way, dude. Some folks love the heavy ones...
Have you ever really played a chambered les paul? I don´t think so.
BUt that´s only my opinion.

alexx · 02-18-2008, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by les strat

I have played many of the new chambered ones, and 9although they do sound good, they do sound different to me.... a tad spongier than the more focused sound of a solid body or even the 9 holers ("swiss cheese"). They are routed out at least 80% with not even a center block for sustain like the Cloud 9's had.

02-09-2008, 09:40 AM	#1 (permalink)
alexx Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 188 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Now it´s official: chambered bodies Check it out, dudes. Finally they´re telling us that the les pauls are chambered GIBSON USA - Les Paul Standard

02-09-2008, 10:33 AM	#2 (permalink)
loaded six string V.I.P. Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: your moms box Posts: 1,807 Thanks: 12 Thanked 14 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Now it´s official: chambered bodies yeah, gibson is pretty proud of this "new and improved" les paul, all for the sake of less weight. I wonder what Les Paul's opinion is on this issue ?

02-09-2008, 10:35 AM	#3 (permalink)
ArchEtech V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Des Moines, IA Posts: 1,041 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Now it´s official: chambered bodies I don't know. He'd probably want to play one regardless. __________________ 2007 Les Paul Custom 200x Fender Mary Kaye Relic V-Neck See thru Blond 2008 Fender Custom Classic V-Neck Daphne Blue 2003 MIM Strat Faded Green Metalic A couple of Alvarez Acoustics AMPS: VOX AD60VTX, Micro Cube

02-09-2008, 11:32 AM	#4 (permalink)
LongBeach V.I.P. Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Long Beach Ca. Posts: 2,760 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Now it´s official: chambered bodies I think it is what it is. I have 2 chambered and like them both alot. But I have 1 Classic that isnt and I really like the weight. Granted I dont gig, so, if I did, I might have to change my tune. I think this might be interesting in the long run, see what the pro's have to say about it in a year or so, Gibson might have to go back to weight releif if they get enough complaints.

02-09-2008, 11:58 AM	#7 (permalink)
alexx Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 188 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Now it´s official: chambered bodies I have a chambered 2007 and LOVE IT. I´ve tested several other non-chambered Les Pauls(standards and classics), and the chambered one was my choice. I know what is like to play for almost two hours,(and what it does to my back and shoulders). But I think tone have IMPROVED( to my ears, as a semi-pro musician and a lifetime player - I´m 31 years old).

Today
Les Paul	Sponsored Links __________________ This advertising will not be shown in this way to registered members. Register your free account today and become a member on My Les Paul Forums

02-09-2008, 12:05 PM	#8 (permalink)
SmokestackElRopo Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Oklahoma City OK Posts: 312 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Now it´s official: chambered bodies For me,not having a past history with the old original les pauls, I wouldn't know the difference. All 3 of my LPs are chambered and I LIKE it. Maybe I just got lucky or I don't have enuff experience. __________________

02-09-2008, 12:13 PM	#10 (permalink)
Mikeeeeh Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Wexford, Ireland Posts: 922 Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 1 Post	Re: Now it´s official: chambered bodies I guess tone is subjective... I've both chambered and non chambered and I prefer the non-chambered tone (agains thats just my opinion ). The chambered tone is great but I reckon it lacks some of the depth in tone I expect from wielding a Les Paul... I find it a little too bright... nudging into semi hollowbody country... but again thats just my opinion What I don't agree with is not giving the customer the choice of either... I likes choice me Then again its hardly the end of the world! __________________ Did you see the Sun outside today? Burning the bridges I built yesterday! Proud member of Ireland's ShamROCKers!

02-09-2008, 12:18 PM	#11 (permalink)
155 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: ct,usa Posts: 387 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Now it´s official: chambered bodies lets face it if you own chambered youll love it if you own solid youll love it, its all good as long as its an lp

02-09-2008, 01:16 PM	#18 (permalink)
ArchEtech V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Des Moines, IA Posts: 1,041 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Now it´s official: chambered bodies Exactly.... I like having both. I set up my chambered with Alumitone single coils and can get a great STV strat sound, as well as other unique tones. My custom is darker, and bigger, and much different but also because of the pickups. __________________ 2007 Les Paul Custom 200x Fender Mary Kaye Relic V-Neck See thru Blond 2008 Fender Custom Classic V-Neck Daphne Blue 2003 MIM Strat Faded Green Metalic A couple of Alvarez Acoustics AMPS: VOX AD60VTX, Micro Cube

02-13-2008, 07:58 PM	#19 (permalink)
mrkenny Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Frederick, Maryland Posts: 291 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Now it´s official: chambered bodies <-------CR '54. No complaints, 7.25lbs __________________ www.kennyandthecobras.com http://www.myspace.com/mcleibymorganfield

02-16-2008, 06:17 PM	#20 (permalink)
steven21042 Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sunrise, Florida Posts: 72 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Now it´s official: chambered bodies Geeze, all this time I thought it was " WEIGHT RELIEVED"..

02-16-2008, 11:23 PM	#21 (permalink)
Zack-on-crack Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 25 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Now it´s official: chambered bodies I don't know but I've been playing guitars for 23 years and Les Pauls for 20 years. What-ever Gibson did they did to save money. What-ever Gibson markets to you is more hype, spin and symantical jibberish than science or engineering. When they decided to chamber the Standard, they made that decision for ONE reason and it wasn't superior sound quality. It was to help them chamber more money out of your wallet and spend less of their own cash on high quality wood. To those who say they love it...I say "whaaaah?". Everybody's going to get all freakin worked-up, but I think you're on more drugs than Hendrix was. Sometimes I think you could screw a pickup to a hockey stick, call it a Les Paul and people would drewl all over it. Cheap, low quality mahagony is heavy....real heavy. There's only one way to lighten it up. Do the math. Tell me how much tonal technology went into that CNC mapping program? People need to wake up and smell the saw dust. That or play a few guitars from the vintage shop downtown. Maybe a kick in the crotch from reality would change some opinions. In the end it's all an equation. This for that. I won't say a "chambered" LP is total crap. My opinion, along with wood, they should "chamber" out some of the price. Knock it down to $1500 for $2300. It would still sound harsh, trebly and impercise, but at least you would LOOK like Slash.

02-17-2008, 01:05 AM	#22 (permalink)
coldsteal2 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Chico, CA Posts: 8,568 Thanks: 21 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Now it´s official: chambered bodies They sound great, my 2007 sounds as good as my 71 custom so who carres __________________ http://www.myspace.com/coldstealii YouTubage Videos

02-17-2008, 01:16 AM	#23 (permalink)
drewbertca V.I.P. Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Timmins, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,996 Thanks: 4 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Now it´s official: chambered bodies I love my chambered BFG.....it has an awesome tone....and sometimes it feels like a broken cell phone stuck on vibrate or a "personal massager" against my leg...I guess you could say it's quite satisfying to play.....I love it's tone........now get your minds out of the gutter...that is all

02-17-2008, 01:25 AM	#24 (permalink)
les strat Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 152 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Now it´s official: chambered bodies I have played many of the new chambered ones, and although they do sound good, they do sound different to me.... a tad spongier than the more focused sound of a solid body or even the 9 holers ("swiss cheese"). They are routed out at least 80% with not even a center block for sustain like the Cloud 9's had. If it was all about "advancing", why did they hide fact this until guitarists folks started x-raying them and asking questions? I just wish you had an option between the solid body and chambered in the USA Standard line, especially since it is the iconic "solid body" guitar.