Does removing the pickgaurd really alltar the tone

kylehnewman · 04-19-2009, 09:07 PM

hey i want to know if removing the pickgaurd really allters the tone

BCRGreg · 04-19-2009, 09:08 PM

Hell, yeah.

It's the WORST thing you can do.

AXE · 04-19-2009, 09:09 PM

I disagree, removing it frees up the tone 7 fold at least...

kylehnewman · 04-19-2009, 09:12 PM

will it make it sound warmer or more open and chambered

***b-squared*** · 04-19-2009, 09:13 PM

Ah--you guys...

Was that a serious question? You're asking whether removing a couple of ounces of plastic will affect the tone...right?

Ummmmm....no.

BB

djwilbanks · 04-19-2009, 09:13 PM

The pickguard deadens the sound, plastic is an insulator, y'know.

kylehnewman · 04-19-2009, 09:15 PM

so it will make it sound ballzier

AXE · 04-19-2009, 09:16 PM

BB, you forgot about the two screws.

They act as a resonance restricter between the two contact points.

I know these things.

BCRGreg · 04-19-2009, 09:16 PM

Quote:

so it will make it sound ballzier

NO!

It makes is sound like it lost its balls. Put another one on on top of the one on there, WAY BETTER.

Sony Oengui · 04-19-2009, 09:17 PM

Actually, the pickguard being screw to the body doesn't let the guitar resonate freely. Removing it will allow your guitar to go along the good vibrations (the song by the beach boys talks about this subject) and sound better.

Go ahead and do it!

PS: This wont work with a 3 ply pickguard. Be careful with those. You'll understand me latter on.

WildeStarr · 04-19-2009, 09:18 PM

***b-squared*** · 04-19-2009, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AXE

BB, you forgot about the two screws.

They act as a resonance restricter between the two contact points.

I know these things.

Far be it for me to disagree...

kylehnewman · 04-19-2009, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sony Oengui

Actually, the pickguard being screw to the body doesn't let the guitar resonate freely. Removing it will allow your guitar to go along the good vibrations (the song by the beach boys talks about this subject) and sound better.

Go ahead and do it!

PS: This wont work with a 3 ply pickguard. Be careful with those. You'll understand me latter on.

ive had it off for a while

AXE · 04-19-2009, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCRGreg

NO!

Greg normally I agree with almost all of your recommendations, but this time I'm going to have to disagree!

Pickguard off.

djwilbanks · 04-19-2009, 09:20 PM

You should put one on the other side so that the tone for the lower strings is similar to the higher strings... I hate uneven tone.

GLP4me · 04-19-2009, 09:21 PM

kylehnewman · 04-19-2009, 09:23 PM

ok i think im just going o leave it off

BCRGreg · 04-19-2009, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AXE

Greg normally I agree with almost all of your recommendations, but this time I'm going to have to disagree!

Pickguard off.

djwilbanks · 04-19-2009, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kylehnewman

ok i think im just going o leave it off

Are you sure? I mean, really sure? I hear you can't put them back on.

AXE · 04-19-2009, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kylehnewman

ok i think im just going o leave it off

Atta boy ...

Never doubt my word ......

BCRGreg · 04-19-2009, 09:25 PM

Taking it off the first time ruins it. Once you try to put it back on, the tone fails.

djwilbanks · 04-19-2009, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AXE

Atta boy ...

Never doubt my word ......

Never believe a word from this person's mouth. He's trouble, mark my words.

Hang with him and you'll be making bad decisions before you know it... I mean, heck, you've already decided to leave the pickguard off....

Once you start down this dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny... consume you it will.

kylehnewman · 04-19-2009, 09:26 PM

im keeping it off

BCRGreg · 04-19-2009, 09:27 PM

I once took the strings off, and it changed the tone.

jonesy · 04-19-2009, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kylehnewman

ok i think im just going o leave it off

Actually I have never had a pick guard on my 06' Studio. It has a AAA flame top and no pick guard (no screw holes) it came that way from the factory.

IMO More of a matter of looks than Tone bro

kylehnewman · 04-19-2009, 09:28 PM

hey axe do you like an unchambered les paul or a chambered one

AXE · 04-19-2009, 09:29 PM

Never played a chambered.

You can see tone with the guard off!

kylehnewman · 04-19-2009, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djwilbanks

Are you sure? I mean, really sure? I hear you can't put them back on.

yea you can put them back on

djwilbanks · 04-19-2009, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCRGreg

I once took the strings off, and it changed the tone.

Pfft. All in your head.

kylehnewman · 04-19-2009, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AXE

Never played a chambered.

amen! i like a more traditional sound

ps. is that a transparent amber finish

04-19-2009, 09:07 PM	#1 (permalink)
kylehnewman Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 175 Thanks: 2 Thanked 5 Times in 1 Post	Does removing the pickgaurd really alltar the tone hey i want to know if removing the pickgaurd really allters the tone

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BCRGreg Grumpy Old Luthier Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Lemoyne, PA Posts: 6,976 Thanks: 157 Thanked 733 Times in 96 Posts	Re: Does removing the pickgaurd really alltar the tone Hell, yeah. It's the WORST thing you can do. __________________ Cool guitars, extreme repairs and brutal honesty. www.bcrmusic.com www.grumpyoldmenband.com http://www.youtube.com/user/unkagreg

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AXE V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Core Club Asswipe. Posts: 9,914 Thanks: 600 Thanked 231 Times in 67 Posts	Re: Does removing the pickgaurd really alltar the tone I disagree, removing it frees up the tone 7 fold at least...

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djwilbanks V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Arkham Asylum Posts: 16,148 Thanks: 125 Thanked 207 Times in 38 Posts	Re: Does removing the pickgaurd really alltar the tone The pickguard deadens the sound, plastic is an insulator, y'know. __________________ º\|\|\|\|\|º

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kylehnewman Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 175 Thanks: 2 Thanked 5 Times in 1 Post	Re: Does removing the pickgaurd really alltar the tone so it will make it sound ballzier

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AXE V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Core Club Asswipe. Posts: 9,914 Thanks: 600 Thanked 231 Times in 67 Posts	Re: Does removing the pickgaurd really alltar the tone BB, you forgot about the two screws. They act as a resonance restricter between the two contact points. I know these things.

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Sony Oengui Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Cordoba, Argentina Posts: 535 Thanks: 27 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Does removing the pickgaurd really alltar the tone Actually, the pickguard being screw to the body doesn't let the guitar resonate freely. Removing it will allow your guitar to go along the good vibrations (the song by the beach boys talks about this subject) and sound better. Go ahead and do it! PS: This wont work with a 3 ply pickguard. Be careful with those. You'll understand me latter on.

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djwilbanks V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Arkham Asylum Posts: 16,148 Thanks: 125 Thanked 207 Times in 38 Posts	Re: Does removing the pickgaurd really alltar the tone You should put one on the other side so that the tone for the lower strings is similar to the higher strings... I hate uneven tone. __________________ º\|\|\|\|\|º

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kylehnewman Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 175 Thanks: 2 Thanked 5 Times in 1 Post	Re: Does removing the pickgaurd really alltar the tone ok i think im just going o leave it off

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BCRGreg Grumpy Old Luthier Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Lemoyne, PA Posts: 6,976 Thanks: 157 Thanked 733 Times in 96 Posts	Re: Does removing the pickgaurd really alltar the tone Taking it off the first time ruins it. Once you try to put it back on, the tone fails. __________________ Cool guitars, extreme repairs and brutal honesty. www.bcrmusic.com www.grumpyoldmenband.com http://www.youtube.com/user/unkagreg

04-19-2009, 09:26 PM	#23 (permalink)
kylehnewman Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 175 Thanks: 2 Thanked 5 Times in 1 Post	Re: Does removing the pickgaurd really alltar the tone im keeping it off

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BCRGreg Grumpy Old Luthier Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Lemoyne, PA Posts: 6,976 Thanks: 157 Thanked 733 Times in 96 Posts	Re: Does removing the pickgaurd really alltar the tone I once took the strings off, and it changed the tone. __________________ Cool guitars, extreme repairs and brutal honesty. www.bcrmusic.com www.grumpyoldmenband.com http://www.youtube.com/user/unkagreg

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kylehnewman Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 175 Thanks: 2 Thanked 5 Times in 1 Post	Re: Does removing the pickgaurd really alltar the tone hey axe do you like an unchambered les paul or a chambered one

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AXE V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Core Club Asswipe. Posts: 9,914 Thanks: 600 Thanked 231 Times in 67 Posts	Re: Does removing the pickgaurd really alltar the tone Never played a chambered. You can see tone with the guard off!

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