Does removing the pickgaurd really alltar the tone

[kylehnewman]

Originally Posted by nicolasrivera

With all do respect, this is the funniest and most ridiculous thread i have ever heard.

There is no difference in tone whatsoever with of without the pickguard on a Les Paul, and those that say so there brain is playing a quick trick on them.

There may be vibrating pickguards, but to alter the tone, that's just silly.

What really does a HUGE difference is the trussrod cover, man with out it the tone of the neck is deeper and more hollow with a resonance of a concert lute.

I cinda think so too and I made it!
what happened was I read someone elses thread like this one, and so i put myne back on and couldnt hear a difference. I wanted to see what they thaought about it so here we are!

[kylehnewman]

Originally Posted by PapaSquash

Now guys - Notice the spelling - he wants to ALLTAR the tone.

Everybody knows that if you sacrifice your pickguard on the altar at Kalamazoo, it will improve your tone.

And if you jog ten miles with a TV Junior held above your head it will improve your muscle tone (which might make you play slower...)

i caint spail, dont make fun of me

[pgreisberg]

I'm glad i tuned in today

[Mr Insane]

Originally Posted by kylehnewman

i caint spail, dont make fun of me

We will stop when you can spell correctly.

[Cheddar Slim]

Originally Posted by kylehnewman

i caint spail, dont make fun of me

Good grief, man! There you go with the "spay-ell" thing again. Your fellow Southern brethren are skeer'd of the rep you are giving us. Y'all bes' be lernin' to spail in a jiffy 'cos Ize gone go crazed lisnin' to some foolishness.

[spacebubby]

Originally Posted by BCRGreg

I once took the strings off, and it changed the tone.

Yup, that'll do it.

[brockburst]

Originally Posted by kylehnewman

i caint spail, dont make fun of me

my god....glad i found this post....i am nearly crying

wait...

let me re-write that...

mah gawd, glud i foundad dis pohst....i'm neerly cring




this is as good as the thread.... "Does color affect tone?"

[Rikochet]

I have officially lost all hope in humanity.

[dennistruckdriver]

Originally Posted by kylehnewman

hey i want to know if removing the pickgaurd really allters the tone

In your case, you should probably remove the guitar from the 'pickgaurd' for the well-being of all around you.

[JM Vasek]

Originally Posted by Mr Insane

We will stop when you can spell correctly.

+1000

Don't expect to sound like an idiot and then not get made fun of here. Perhaps try learning some basic spelling skills?

[GrouchyDog]

Originally Posted by dennistruckdriver

In your case, you should probably remove the guitar from the 'pickgaurd' for the well-being of all around you.

And for a complete tone makeover, remove the amp from the amp-handle and make sure both ends of the guitar cable are touching. But don't stand near the microwave or the Gamma-ray resonance will spoil it all and you'll only be able to play Jonas Brothers "songs".

[nick1962]

This is hilarious - I did not think Americans were capable of such hard-core sarcasm! I salute you all!

[GrouchyDog]

Originally Posted by nick1962

This is hilarious - I did not think Americans were capable of such hard-core sarcasm! I salute you all!

I had a bagel with Marmite this morning, I'm feeling the UK vibe...

[dennistruckdriver]

Originally Posted by nick1962

This is hilarious - I did not think Americans were capable of such hard-core sarcasm! I salute you all!

My direct ancestor, Francis Eaton, signed the Mayflower Compact, so you see, I have a bit of English wit about me.



Those who signed the Mayflower Compact

The following are the names of those individuals aboard the Mayflower who, in 1620, signed the Compact which, by Hon. Francis Baylies, in his History of New Plymouth, says that this compact, adopted in the cabin of the Mayflower established a most important principle, which is the foundation of all Democratic institutions and the basis of the Republic.


John Carver, John Turner,
William Bradford, Francis Eaton,
Edward Winslow, James Chilton,
William Brewster, John Crakston,
Isaac Allerton, John Billington,
Miles Standish, Moses Fletche,
John Alden, John Goodman,
Samuel Fuller, Degory Priest,
Christopher Martin, Thomas Williams,
William Mullins, Gilbert Winslow,
William White, Edmond Margeson,
Richard Warren, Peter Brown,
John Howland, Richard Bitterage,
Stephen Hopkins, George Soule,
Edward Tilley, Richard Clark,
John Tilly, Richard Gardiner,
Francis Cooke, John Allerton,
Thomas Rogers, Thomas English,
Thomas Tinker, Edward Dotey,
John Rigdale, Edward Leister,
Edward Fuller

[nick1962]

Impressive! I have not been back further than 1780, but all my folks have lived in my part of the world (Leicestershire) for centuries, so I'm told.
Oops! Deviating from guitar stuff......

[djwilbanks]

Originally Posted by nick1962

Impressive! I have not been back further than 1780, but all my folks have lived in my part of the world (Leicestershire) for centuries, so I'm told.
Oops! Deviating from guitar stuff......

All my ancestors are Scottish and Irish... with a little Dutch thrown in.

So you see, I can't be anything other than sarcastic... except drunk, I can be drunk.

[JustinMcCorkle]

These guys are just guessing. what really happens is that frequency canceling phenomena of "standing waves" where the tone gets trapped between two parallel planes and cancel each other out. If you change the angle of the pick guard it will resolve your problem. If you add 12 washers between the bracket and pick guard according to test results it should optimize your tone.

Completely plausible. However I 'm afraid that this is only the case of your pickguard is nitro finished and not that fleshy color. That color doesn't resonate as well.


American's...........sarcastic? Who us?

[BCRGreg]

[nick1962]

Originally Posted by djwilbanks

All my ancestors are Scottish and Irish... with a little Dutch thrown in.

So you see, I can't be anything other than sarcastic... except drunk, I can be drunk.

My celtic friends certainly like a few ales!

[BillB1960]

C'mon, this guy is serious here and you're all making fun of him. Give him a serious answer!

OP - Removing the pick guard will not effect the tone either way. However, take some time and google "scratchplate". These are readily available for your LP although you'll have to order it from overseas since they don't make them here in the US. Studies show 4 out of 5 luthiers recommend using a scratchplate over a pick guard.

You can see the one on my GT in my avatar. Highly recommended!

[brockburst]

Originally Posted by BillB1960

C'mon, this guy is serious here and you're all making fun of him. Give him a serious answer!

OP - Removing the pick guard will not effect the tone either way. However, take some time and google "scratchplate". These are readily available for your LP although you'll have to order it from overseas since they don't make them here in the US. Studies show 4 out of 5 luthiers recommend using a scratchplate over a pick guard.

Yeah 4 out of 5 luthiers....that's the biggest crock of sht ever.

4 out of 5 luthiers think blue guitars sound better than gold tops.

3 out of 5 luthiers think kiln fired play doh makes superior nuts.



genius.

[BillB1960]

Originally Posted by brockburst

Yeah 4 out of 5 luthiers....that's the biggest crock of sht ever.

4 out of 5 luthiers think blue guitars sound better than gold tops.

3 out of 5 luthiers think kiln fired play doh makes superior nuts.



genius.

Well the 5th guy was too busy to participate because he was changing the battery in his Tubescreamer from Duracell to Eveready because the Duracells make it sound too dark.

Edit: Remember kids NEVER put your nuts in a kiln. Leave it to the pros.

[The ConGREGation]

Do the stripes in the wood alter the tone ? Bwahahhahahahahahaha

[moff40]

Kyle - Good to see that it looks like you picked up on the sarcasm. Don't let these guys get under your skin, they're just having a little fun with you.

On this forum, there are some topics that get brought up often, especially by new members, and those questions usually bring about this kind of response. For your own protection, is it ill advised to ask questions about chambering or weight relief, wrapping the strings over the bridge (top-wrapping) vs the standard method of running them straight through the bridge, pickguard on or off, or how to get Slash's tone

To directly answer your question: No, pickguard on or off will make no difference whatsoever. Neither will the colour of the guitar's finish (trust me, it's been asked), the shape or material the knobs are made of, or whether the truss rod cover is on or off.

These things are all cosmetic, and are your choice. OTOH, your choice of whether the pickguard is on or off WILL, over time, determine whether you end up with a gaping "bald spot" where you've removed the finish with your pick.

[G. Scott]

By "altering" tone you mean ruining it? Well, then, yes, removing the pickguard irreversibly damages the LP's ability to produce tone. You can put the PG back on, but the tone will have already disappeared.
Scotty.
:-)

[v8ko]

I think this guy deserves VIP status for this thread

[lazz]

i dont know about the pickguard thang but i once plugged mine into an "amp" and it totally changed the tone,i mean big time,louder and everything

[dennistruckdriver]

Originally Posted by nicolasrivera

With all do respect, this is the funniest and most ridiculous thread i have ever heard.....

You should have been here for the YR990099 and LesPaulOwner68 games! They were AWESOME!!!!

[6shooter]

This is new to me....never heard of how the pickguard affected the tone. Only way to tell is to record w/ pickguard on and off. Cause the difference may be much more subtle than you think.

[dennistruckdriver]

Originally Posted by 6shooter

T....the difference may be much more subtle than you think.

I doubt that the effect is more subtle than I think it is. I am willing to bet that it is EXACTLY as subtle as I think it is.