Does removing the pickgaurd really alltar the tone - Page 2

djwilbanks · 04-19-2009, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by kylehnewman

yea you can put them back on

Wow, you seem to know a lot about Les Pauls.

BCRGreg · 04-19-2009, 09:31 PM

Sony Oengui · 04-19-2009, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by kylehnewman

yea you can put them back on

Yes, but it wont be the same. Believe me.

kylehnewman · 04-19-2009, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djwilbanks

Wow, you seem to know a lot about Les Pauls.

well remember youre on a les paul fourum!
theres gonna be a lot of people that know something about them

BCRGreg · 04-19-2009, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kylehnewman

well remember youre on a les paul fourum!

Is THAT what that means?

I thought this was a site about Myles Paul!

kylehnewman · 04-19-2009, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BCRGreg

Is THAT what that means?

I thought this was a site about Myles Paul!

djwilbanks · 04-19-2009, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sony Oengui

Yes, but it wont be the same. Believe me.

Its true... I sold this Gibson:

Because once I took off the guard and tried to put it back on... I failed.

GLP4me · 04-19-2009, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BCRGreg

I once took the strings off, and it changed the tone.

That happens to me ALL the time.

AXE · 04-19-2009, 09:43 PM

I tried and tried to get the guard back on this one and just could not do it. It's in a better place now

GLP4me · 04-19-2009, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AXE

I tried and tried to get the guard back on this one and just could not do it. It's in a better place now

Yep. Might as well send the guitar there too.

bfcg · 04-19-2009, 10:00 PM

These guys are just guessing. what really happens is that frequency canceling phenomena of "standing waves" where the tone gets trapped between two parallel planes and cancel each other out. If you change the angle of the pick guard it will resolve your problem. If you add 12 washers between the bracket and pick guard according to test results it should optimize your tone.

banditguitarist1 · 04-19-2009, 10:03 PM

the only way to get the Slash Tone is to remove the pickguard

jonesy · 04-19-2009, 10:04 PM

River · 04-19-2009, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bfcg

These guys are just guessing. what really happens is that frequency canceling phenomena of "standing waves" where the tone gets trapped between two parallel planes and cancel each other out. If you change the angle of the pick guard it will resolve your problem. If you add 12 washers between the bracket and pick guard according to test results it should optimize your tone.

My nominee for best pickguard thread post yet!

Mercutio · 04-19-2009, 11:21 PM

i actually put a pickguard on the other side of the pickups as well, cause it makes it sound EVER BETTER.

nicolasrivera · 04-19-2009, 11:33 PM

With all do respect, this is the funniest and most ridiculous thread i have ever heard.

There is no difference in tone whatsoever with of without the pickguard on a Les Paul, and those that say so there brain is playing a quick trick on them.

There may be vibrating pickguards, but to alter the tone, that's just silly.

What really does a HUGE difference is the trussrod cover, man with out it the tone of the neck is deeper and more hollow with a resonance of a concert lute.

Torren61 · 04-19-2009, 11:33 PM

I did a test with this. First I had the pick guard on and I recorded me playing parts of "The Ocean" by Zep. Then I went to the fridge and got a beer.

Next, I took off the pick guard and played the same riff. Then I finished off the beer.

The result of the experiment is that removing the pick guard made me thirsty for beer.

PapaSquash · 04-19-2009, 11:38 PM

Now guys - Notice the spelling - he wants to ALLTAR the tone.

Everybody knows that if you sacrifice your pickguard on the altar at Kalamazoo, it will improve your tone.

And if you jog ten miles with a TV Junior held above your head it will improve your muscle tone (which might make you play slower...)

nicolasrivera · 04-19-2009, 11:45 PM

Hahahaahhahah stop it you're killing me....hahahahaha

Hogman49 · 04-19-2009, 11:48 PM

scottelloco · 04-19-2009, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bcrgreg

+1

nicolasrivera · 04-19-2009, 11:52 PM

But have you ever heard that the shielding under the 60's strat's pickguard DOES alter the tone???

This is more possible then this nonsense.

eaglewolf · 04-20-2009, 12:33 AM

I was wondering what the hell that hunk of plastic that came with my R9 was. A pickguard, you say? Hmm...

I know when I get my wifes clothes off I tell her to leave them off. If it is like that, I can say that leaving it off is better for the most part. To each his own though.

I also think the tone of the guitar is much better with it off. The wood tone, that is. You can see the purdy top so much better. Cream plastic just doesn't do it for me when a nice flame top is involved. Of course, if you have a butt-ugly guitar, maybe you better put it back on.

David

P.S. Gotta keep these pickguard threads going. There are newbies that really might need this stuff.

stevedave · 04-20-2009, 01:45 AM

I heard that if you leave the pickguard on it improves your staying power by up to 15%. Can anyone either confirm or deny this report?

GrouchyDog · 04-20-2009, 01:26 PM

What I don't get is how does it guard the picks? I lost a brand-new pick last night WITH THE GUARD IN PLACE!!!! How can that be?!?!?!?

GrouchyDog · 04-20-2009, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sony Oengui

Actually, the pickguard being screw to the body doesn't let the guitar resonate freely. Removing it will allow your guitar to go along the good vibrations (the song by the beach boys talks about this subject) and sound better.

Go ahead and do it!

PS: This wont work with a 3 ply pickguard. Be careful with those. You'll understand me latter on.

Removing the screw will leave a hole - is that the same as a weight-relieved body?

nauc · 04-20-2009, 02:32 PM

its tone probably wont change but its 0-60 will be WAY better!

nauc · 04-20-2009, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by AXE

Never played a chambered.

You can see tone with the guard off!

what is that, i like that a lot!

Mr Insane · 04-20-2009, 02:56 PM

kylehnewman · 04-20-2009, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by River

My nominee for best pickguard thread post yet!

yes I think he gets it

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bfcg Under shop arrest Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Mountains Posts: 2,036 Thanks: 4 Thanked 8 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Does removing the pickgaurd really alltar the tone These guys are just guessing. what really happens is that frequency canceling phenomena of "standing waves" where the tone gets trapped between two parallel planes and cancel each other out. If you change the angle of the pick guard it will resolve your problem. If you add 12 washers between the bracket and pick guard according to test results it should optimize your tone.

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banditguitarist1 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: New Rochelle,NY Posts: 1,217 Thanks: 55 Thanked 15 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Does removing the pickgaurd really alltar the tone the only way to get the Slash Tone is to remove the pickguard

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nicolasrivera Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 994 Thanks: 53 Thanked 63 Times in 16 Posts	Re: Does removing the pickgaurd really alltar the tone With all do respect, this is the funniest and most ridiculous thread i have ever heard. There is no difference in tone whatsoever with of without the pickguard on a Les Paul, and those that say so there brain is playing a quick trick on them. There may be vibrating pickguards, but to alter the tone, that's just silly. What really does a HUGE difference is the trussrod cover, man with out it the tone of the neck is deeper and more hollow with a resonance of a concert lute. __________________ "A good guitar is in agreement with itself” Parker. -------------------------------o------------------------------ "There will always be more Les to come. That's certified." Billy Gibbons.

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Torren61 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Moberly, MO Posts: 1,976 Thanks: 29 Thanked 99 Times in 23 Posts	Re: Does removing the pickgaurd really alltar the tone I did a test with this. First I had the pick guard on and I recorded me playing parts of "The Ocean" by Zep. Then I went to the fridge and got a beer. Next, I took off the pick guard and played the same riff. Then I finished off the beer. The result of the experiment is that removing the pick guard made me thirsty for beer. __________________ http://politicsofguitars.blogspot.com/ http://www.soundclick.com/bands/defa...?bandID=964885

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PapaSquash Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: The Middle of North America Posts: 445 Thanks: 6 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Does removing the pickgaurd really alltar the tone Now guys - Notice the spelling - he wants to ALLTAR the tone. Everybody knows that if you sacrifice your pickguard on the altar at Kalamazoo, it will improve your tone. And if you jog ten miles with a TV Junior held above your head it will improve your muscle tone (which might make you play slower...)

04-19-2009, 11:45 PM	#49 (permalink)
nicolasrivera Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 994 Thanks: 53 Thanked 63 Times in 16 Posts	Re: Does removing the pickgaurd really alltar the tone Hahahaahhahah stop it you're killing me....hahahahaha __________________ "A good guitar is in agreement with itself” Parker. -------------------------------o------------------------------ "There will always be more Les to come. That's certified." Billy Gibbons.

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nicolasrivera Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 994 Thanks: 53 Thanked 63 Times in 16 Posts	Re: Does removing the pickgaurd really alltar the tone But have you ever heard that the shielding under the 60's strat's pickguard DOES alter the tone??? This is more possible then this nonsense. __________________ "A good guitar is in agreement with itself” Parker. -------------------------------o------------------------------ "There will always be more Les to come. That's certified." Billy Gibbons.

04-20-2009, 12:33 AM	#53 (permalink)
eaglewolf Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Southern California Posts: 696 Thanks: 4 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Does removing the pickgaurd really alltar the tone I was wondering what the hell that hunk of plastic that came with my R9 was. A pickguard, you say? Hmm... I know when I get my wifes clothes off I tell her to leave them off. If it is like that, I can say that leaving it off is better for the most part. To each his own though. I also think the tone of the guitar is much better with it off. The wood tone, that is. You can see the purdy top so much better. Cream plastic just doesn't do it for me when a nice flame top is involved. Of course, if you have a butt-ugly guitar, maybe you better put it back on. David P.S. Gotta keep these pickguard threads going. There are newbies that really might need this stuff. __________________ 2009 PRS McCarty Korina, 2008 MIM Stratocaster 2008 Martin LXM Acoustic Marshall MG100DFX, Blackstar HT-5 Combo

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stevedave Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: O-H-I-O Posts: 860 Thanks: 8 Thanked 4 Times in 1 Post	Re: Does removing the pickgaurd really alltar the tone I heard that if you leave the pickguard on it improves your staying power by up to 15%. Can anyone either confirm or deny this report?

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