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Unread 02-13-2009, 11:05 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi all,

Just a question - i am planning to place binding on my 95 gibson lp studio,

What materials are used on the lp standard bindings and what should i use?

should i even consider the modification? =)

Inputs are greatly appreciated!

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don't do it, you will mess up your guitar.

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idunno man, save the money and buy a used standard or something
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It's been done. Don't know how cost effective it is. But it a user on here did it to a vintage mahogany studio.
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Re: Binding on les paul

Man, it's a pretty intensive mod. I would sell the studio and save up for a Standard..
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How is the cap on a Studio stuck on the body now? Glue?
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Nice avitar "Ronniesize"! I would find a crap guitar to practice on first just to get the bugs out. LP studio is a great fiddle, are you sure you want to cut into it?
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Re: Binding on les paul

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Hi all,

Just a question - i am planning to place binding on my 95 gibson lp studio,

What materials are used on the lp standard bindings and what should i use?

should i even consider the modification? =)

Inputs are greatly appreciated!

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Stewmac sells you all this stuff right there. With the right router bit (and practice), placing the binding isn't a problem.

Of course you'll have to put new clear lacquer over the whole guitar.

But the real problem is the neck. How are you gonna route the body when you come close to the fretboard? The router doesn't go there, unless you build a full standoff thing. Realistically you'd have to take the neck off.
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If you're good you can use a razor blade near the neck. The Thruth didn't have to take the neck off if his. Let me see if u can dredge up his thread. Link in new post. And Thruth did use a razor blade for the neck joint.
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Re: Binding on les paul

Extreme makeover

There ya go
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Re: Binding on les paul

If you are good enough you can just dremel the last inch out. But then if you are good enough you can just do it like people did before they had routers. I'm not sure how realistic that is.

ETA: nice thread, and all knife-driven. But hey he's in Croatia and seems to have real skills in woodworking. Talent with few outlets. I would probably just carve up my fingers.
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Well if that guy can do it that well his first time...
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Re: Binding on les paul

all I know is I want that done to my BFG. Cost effective? No. But modifications and personalization usually aren't.
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Re: Binding on les paul

I dunno. I think I'm pretty good at precision work but knife work comes out fuzzy for me. Maybe it's better on mahogany. Maybe spots won't be visible after using wood filler on the binding edges. I'd say that guy spend his childhood carving a couple things, even though it might be his first guitar job. A great job for sure.

I think for us mortals it's better to use a router up to the neck and then a free-hand dremel and lots of patience near the neck, or maybe knife around the neck.

Ronnie, you need to keep in mind that LP Standards and Custom also have fretboard binding. Just putting on body binding doesn't give you the same look.

What color is that Studio.
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Extreme makeover

There ya go
that thread has some amazing work!
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Re: Binding on les paul

I thought he said he only used the razor for the neck and the fretboard.

EDIT: he was answering a question about the neck joint and his answer is really unclear to me. Oh well, still awesome.
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Re: Binding on les paul

I did it... lots of work, but it can be done. You have to refret your neck though and you need to refinish the whole guitar. Can be costly if you don't do it by yourself.

I only paid a couple of bucks for the materials, but having it done by a pro can cost you as much as a new guitar!

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Re: Binding on les paul

damn - im torn between the two options - im planning to ahve a pro do it for me coz im a wuss =)
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damn - im torn between the two options - im planning to ahve a pro do it for me coz im a wuss =)

ya thats the smart decision if you've never done it before
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Re: Binding on les paul

Alex, you added fretboard binding, too?

That's pretty cool. What did you use, tools-wise?
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That's pretty cool. What did you use, tools-wise?
Yup... and I also removed the bridge and moved the tailpiece to the bridge location.

I used a router. I routed the binding for the body from the back as the back is flat. I used a router bit with ball bearing. I installed a smaller diametre ball bearing than the diametre of the router bit. At the cutaway I used shisels to get the thin binding and the piece of maple showing underneath.

For the neck I placed two cork strips on both sided of the fingerboard. High enough so the middle (highest part) of the fingerboard stays lower. I used the two strips as a guide and as a flat part for the router to rest on. Kinda hard to explain. It was a bitch, but it worked ok.
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Yeah, there are many amazing threads here on adding binding to the body and neck on Studios with step-by-step photos. They turned out really cool.
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Re: Binding on les paul

here, take a look at this :The Guitar Refinishing and Restoration Forum :: View topic - faux binding
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That's cool there's been lots of things where people have used pinstripe car tape and cream paint and stuff.
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damn - im torn between the two options - im planning to ahve a pro do it for me coz im a wuss =)
Man, that's going to cost you waaaay more than the guitar is worth. Sell the Studio and you can buy a Standard with neck binding or maybe even a model with both the neck and headstock binding for what that will cost!
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Is binding the only difference between Studios and Standards?
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Man I just did an old '73, Goldtop, and it looks like the real deal. Thanks to Bill Lester from Guitar Reranch for showing me the way. Do not hesitate to pay for his services. Problem is the binding is a three layer and the early goldtops had a single binding. Plus, the binding got scratched up and the paint is acctually too high for the binding. I need to know if anyone out there has a good pointer for painting my binding to add to a classic look? Kurt moss krmoss@hotmail.com
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forgot to leave email krmoss@hotmail.com binding question
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