MyLesPaul.com
Homepage - Sponsors - Subscription - Auctions - Advertise - Spy  
Go Back   MyLesPaul.com > The Les Paul > Gibson Les Pauls
LIKE MyLesPaul on Facebook FOLLOW MyLesPaul on Twitter
  
Like Tree93Likes

Reply
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Unread 11-28-2013, 07:38 AM   #1 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Sinster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: M*ssholechusetts
Posts: 9,553
Thanks: 119
Thanked 421 Times in 172 Posts
Gibson 2014 Line up

I'm liking the Futura.

Not liking the sub species of guitars. WTF is a LPM? Les Paul Peace?

Gibson Guitar: Electric, Acoustic and Bass Guitars, Baldwin Pianos
__________________
2013 Traditional
2012 Mahogany Traditional
2012 Studio
2011 Gary Moore BFG
2010 50's Tribute Studio
2009 Mahogany Studio
1995 Fender Strat

BFG Owner Group

Proud Owner of a Cygnus 7 amp!
Sinster is offline   Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Les Paul

Beitrag Sponsored Links

__________________
This advertising will not be shown in this way to registered members.
Register your free account today and become a member on MyLesPaul.com
   
Unread 11-28-2013, 07:44 AM   #2 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Shawn Lutz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Texas
Posts: 4,208
Thanks: 14
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Send a message via Yahoo to Shawn Lutz
Re: Gibson 2014 Line up

yawn....
djrussell likes this.
__________________
http://shawnlutz.com
Shawn Lutz is online now   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-28-2013, 08:19 AM   #3 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Blackdog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 489
Thanks: 9
Thanked 21 Times in 6 Posts
Re: Gibson 2014 Line up

Most interesting !
Under the fancy description of "Fly over the fingerboard with undercut fret over binding" they officially got rid of the fret-end binding (Nibs) !



Fascinating….
Woderwick and blackangus1 like this.
__________________
"Nothing quite sounds like a Les Paul.
...not even another Les Paul !"
Mrs. Blackdog

Website:
Blackdog is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-28-2013, 08:38 AM   #4 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 2,177
Thanks: 9
Thanked 14 Times in 8 Posts
Re: Gibson 2014 Line up

I'm glad they are getting away from the corian nut.
I'm glad they are using the PLEK on the whole board.
I'm glad they are using one piece fingerboards.
In the above areas, maybe they are listening to complaints.

I find the prices to be lower than what I would expect typical MSRP to be.
The Signature and Classic are 3 knobbers.
The Signature seems to be more than just a T. Maybe that's an upgrade from T complaints.
Not sure what an M is. Minimal? The SG gets one also.
The Peace is priced between a Trad and Standard. The SG does NOT get a Peace.
I notice the blowout prices for the Supreme were deeply discounted. And there isn't a Supreme on this listing. I wonder if the Supreme is history...ie collectable.

I'm not quite yawning, but not really excited about anything just yet.
02589 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-28-2013, 08:44 AM   #5 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Manchester, UK
Posts: 344
Thanks: 1
Thanked 4 Times in 1 Post
Re: Gibson 2014 Line up

"One piece fingerboard"
...
One piece of what, though...?
winexprt, splatter and Jernst1 like this.
__________________
1978 Gibson The Paul
"Partscaster"
Ibanez AFJ91
Admira Artista classical
Marshall JMD501
Dharma66 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-28-2013, 09:27 AM   #6 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
jlb32's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: USA
Posts: 2,487
Thanks: 5
Thanked 24 Times in 11 Posts
Re: Gibson 2014 Line up

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
Most interesting !
Under the fancy description of "Fly over the fingerboard with undercut fret over binding" they officially got rid of the fret-end binding (Nibs) !
I personally prefer the nibs. Hopefully they just made them slightly shorter and didn't get rid of them completely.

Not a big fan of those grip knob looks.
JMB1984, theNARDdog9 and circles like this.
jlb32 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-28-2013, 09:34 AM   #7 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,533
Thanks: 14
Thanked 8 Times in 2 Posts
Re: Gibson 2014 Line up

Gotta give them credit for trying. Over the past decade, they have certainly had their hits and misses. Only time will tell which of these 2014 offerings will be which.
TLTeo likes this.
__________________
Peace

Rex
ToneasaurusRex is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-28-2013, 09:40 AM   #8 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
garweft's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 3,158
Thanks: 46
Thanked 39 Times in 17 Posts
Re: Gibson 2014 Line up

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
Most interesting !
Under the fancy description of "Fly over the fingerboard with undercut fret over binding" they officially got rid of the fret-end binding (Nibs) !

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x...ps94cd36f8.jpg

Fascinating….
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x...ps5e6512bd.jpg
If they got rid of nibs across the whole product line I am pretty happy I got a 2013 Trad for a blowout. Solid body, nibs, and no ugly 12th fret.

And here I thought they were trying to improve from year to year.
Superpower and inspiron like this.
__________________
garweft is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-28-2013, 09:42 AM   #9 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Blackdog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 489
Thanks: 9
Thanked 21 Times in 6 Posts
Re: Gibson 2014 Line up

Quote:
Originally Posted by jlb32 View Post
I personally prefer the nibs. Hopefully they just made them slightly shorter and didn't get rid of them completely.
The only way to make the nibs shorter is to use thinner binding, like on the vintage guitars.

Basically you either have nibs (of the width of the binding) or you don't.

It's a major change in the building order, to have the nibs you have to fret the board off the guitar, trim the sides flat and apply the binding BEFORE gluing the board to the neck.

With fret-over-binding you can actually fret the board when the neck is pretty much finished.

I can see this change driving the Gibson purists crazy, but frankly, I see no *Functional* advantage whatsoever in having nibs (sometimes even the opposite).
__________________
"Nothing quite sounds like a Les Paul.
...not even another Les Paul !"
Mrs. Blackdog

Website:
Blackdog is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-28-2013, 09:46 AM   #10 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
WholeLottaIzzy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 726
Thanks: 1
Thanked 22 Times in 12 Posts
Re: Gibson 2014 Line up

Was hoping for pictures
WholeLottaIzzy is online now   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-28-2013, 09:54 AM   #11 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
rich85's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: AUS
Posts: 1,234
Thanks: 10
Thanked 54 Times in 11 Posts
Re: Gibson 2014 Line up

I would think that the nibs will be on the traditional still but not the classic and sig models with coil tapping and quite a low price really

edit: well maybe anyway overall though they look pretty good so eh
rich85 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-28-2013, 10:04 AM   #12 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Michigan
Posts: 534
Thanks: 2
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Gibson 2014 Line up

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
I can see this change driving the Gibson purists crazy, but frankly, I see no *Functional* advantage whatsoever in having nibs (sometimes even the opposite).
I agree, but there isn't much *functional* advantage to anything Gibson makes.
Ddavid is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-28-2013, 10:06 AM   #13 (permalink)
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: in the wood shed!
Posts: 1,955
Thanks: 69
Thanked 8 Times in 6 Posts
Re: Gibson 2014 Line up

To hell with Nibs,If they cant do the job right.
JMB1984 likes this.
ll IrOn CiTy ll is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-28-2013, 10:37 AM   #14 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
TLTeo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Milan
Posts: 206
Thanks: 9
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via Skype™ to TLTeo
Re: Gibson 2014 Line up

Which other guitar brands use nibs anyway? Just wondering.

Anyway, im still waiting for the full specs of each model to have a clear opinion. I'm liking the models between the Studio and the Standard though.
TLTeo is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-28-2013, 10:37 AM   #15 (permalink)
UEF
Senior Member
 
UEF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: London
Posts: 342
Thanks: 0
Thanked 5 Times in 1 Post
Re: Gibson 2014 Line up

"New model year serial numbering system"

Not another system? or just a new year on the old one?

Those non-clip knobs look interesting for volume work while retaining looks!
__________________
My Les Pauls:
  • 1988 Epiphone (first year) Les Paul
  • 2006 Gibson Les Paul Custom
UEF is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-28-2013, 10:39 AM   #16 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
TLTeo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Milan
Posts: 206
Thanks: 9
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via Skype™ to TLTeo
Re: Gibson 2014 Line up

Quote:
Originally Posted by UEF View Post
"New model year serial numbering system"

Not another system? or just a new year on the old one?

Those non-clip knobs look interesting for volume work while retaining looks!
I believe now the year will be in the first 2 digits instead of first and fifth, something like that.
TLTeo is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-28-2013, 10:53 AM   #17 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Blackdog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 489
Thanks: 9
Thanked 21 Times in 6 Posts
Re: Gibson 2014 Line up

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ddavid View Post
I agree, but there isn't much *functional* advantage to anything Gibson makes.
What do you mean….?

RedSkwirrell likes this.
__________________
"Nothing quite sounds like a Les Paul.
...not even another Les Paul !"
Mrs. Blackdog

Website:
Blackdog is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-28-2013, 10:57 AM   #18 (permalink)
UEF
Senior Member
 
UEF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: London
Posts: 342
Thanks: 0
Thanked 5 Times in 1 Post
Re: Gibson 2014 Line up

Quote:
Originally Posted by TLTeo View Post
I believe now the year will be in the first 2 digits instead of first and fifth, something like that.
__________________
My Les Pauls:
  • 1988 Epiphone (first year) Les Paul
  • 2006 Gibson Les Paul Custom
UEF is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-28-2013, 10:58 AM   #19 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Blackdog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 489
Thanks: 9
Thanked 21 Times in 6 Posts
Re: Gibson 2014 Line up

"New model year serial numbering system enhances collect ability"

So it was the serial numbering system…. That's what they've been doing wrong these past years….
Superpower likes this.
__________________
"Nothing quite sounds like a Les Paul.
...not even another Les Paul !"
Mrs. Blackdog

Website:
Blackdog is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-28-2013, 11:01 AM   #20 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
TLTeo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Milan
Posts: 206
Thanks: 9
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via Skype™ to TLTeo
Re: Gibson 2014 Line up

Hellyeah xkcd is awesome.

Also the Les Paul X, just like the second and third Matrix movies, never actually happened. True story.
maaadtrip likes this.
TLTeo is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-28-2013, 11:43 AM   #21 (permalink)
nm4
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 100
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Gibson 2014 Line up

Disheartened to see the SG standard is only available with the Min-Etune system. Gibson finally gets the body and pickguard design just right and now they go and add this gimmick that will probably have to be repaired/replaced during the life of the guitar. I'm by no means a traditionalist but the Min-Etune just seems like trouble waiting to happen.

Cheers,
NM
truckermde likes this.
nm4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-28-2013, 11:47 AM   #22 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 2,177
Thanks: 9
Thanked 14 Times in 8 Posts
Re: Gibson 2014 Line up

I think they are taking away the nibs to copy the Chinese fakes.
02589 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-28-2013, 12:01 PM   #23 (permalink)
Premium Member
 
JMB1984's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Blue Crab State
Posts: 3,308
Thanks: 16
Thanked 13 Times in 5 Posts
Re: Gibson 2014 Line up

Quote:
Originally Posted by ll IrOn CiTy ll View Post
To hell with Nibs,If they cant do the job right.
+1. Considering how many guitars I have seen with choppy binding work around the nibs and the reports of low e strings getting stuck between the binding and the frets, I would rather just see them get rid if the nibs in the USA line. I would really prefer they keep the nibs and do the job right since Gibsons are known for having them, but I guess this is the next best thing to bad binding work.

And to the "no function" comments, nibs are functional in that they change the feel of the guitar neck by covering the frets. Buyers will have to be on the look out for sharp fret ends on a lot more than the Studio and below models now.
JMB1984 is online now   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-28-2013, 12:04 PM   #24 (permalink)
Premium Member
 
JMB1984's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Blue Crab State
Posts: 3,308
Thanks: 16
Thanked 13 Times in 5 Posts
Re: Gibson 2014 Line up

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinster View Post
I'm liking the Futura.

Not liking the sub species of guitars. WTF is a LPM? Les Paul Peace?

Gibson Guitar: Electric, Acoustic and Bass Guitars, Baldwin Pianos
My guess is the LPM is the maple top version similar to the LPJ Pro that is out now.
JMB1984 is online now   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-28-2013, 12:12 PM   #25 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
xSinner13x's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Mining Unobtanium in Absurdistan.
Posts: 911
Thanks: 97
Thanked 10 Times in 5 Posts
Re: Gibson 2014 Line up

Meh....
__________________
Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain - and most fools do.
-Benjamin Franklin-
xSinner13x is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-28-2013, 12:35 PM   #26 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
WholeLottaIzzy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 726
Thanks: 1
Thanked 22 Times in 12 Posts
Re: Gibson 2014 Line up

Looking at them, I actually have a feeling these are gunna be really quite good. Quite excited to try out a few. Nice to see some new models and variety.
WholeLottaIzzy is online now   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-28-2013, 01:11 PM   #27 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Michigan
Posts: 534
Thanks: 2
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Gibson 2014 Line up

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
Three harmonicas on a slab of wood... Nice
kevinpaul likes this.
Ddavid is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-28-2013, 01:18 PM   #28 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
colchar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: The Great White North
Posts: 26,203
Thanks: 250
Thanked 595 Times in 196 Posts
Re: Gibson 2014 Line up

Quote:
Originally Posted by nm4 View Post
Disheartened to see the SG standard is only available with the Min-Etune system. Gibson finally gets the body and pickguard design just right and now they go and add this gimmick that will probably have to be repaired/replaced during the life of the guitar. I'm by no means a traditionalist but the Min-Etune just seems like trouble waiting to happen.

Cheers,
NM


And I wonder how many people will decide not to buy an SG because of it.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by ltdave32
We don't ring up three cherries on the MLP slot machine every Friday night, but dammit, when it hits, it's friggin' jackpot.

--------------------------------------------------------
"All of Chuck's children are out there playing his licks"
--------------------------------------------------------

colchar is online now   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-28-2013, 01:19 PM   #29 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
colchar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: The Great White North
Posts: 26,203
Thanks: 250
Thanked 595 Times in 196 Posts
Re: Gibson 2014 Line up

Quote:
Originally Posted by garweft View Post
If they got rid of nibs across the whole product line I am pretty happy I got a 2013 Trad for a blowout. Solid body, nibs, and no ugly 12th fret.

And here I thought they were trying to improve from year to year.


And if they got rid of nibs there goes one surefire sign that a guitar is a counterfeit.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by ltdave32
We don't ring up three cherries on the MLP slot machine every Friday night, but dammit, when it hits, it's friggin' jackpot.

--------------------------------------------------------
"All of Chuck's children are out there playing his licks"
--------------------------------------------------------

colchar is online now   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-28-2013, 01:23 PM   #30 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
jlb32's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: USA
Posts: 2,487
Thanks: 5
Thanked 24 Times in 11 Posts
Re: Gibson 2014 Line up

The 12th fret logo, the min-Etune on guitars without the option otherwise, the nibs possibly gone, etc..

Some may love these changes for 2014. Personally it just makes me happy I have the Gibsons I already have.
stratlt, JMB1984, Lipinhu and 3 others like this.
jlb32 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:56 AM.


Our Network: PRS Guitar Forum | Luthier Forum | SG Guitar Forum | Marshall Amp Forum | Music Gear Forum | 7 String Guitar Forum | Acoustic Guitar Forum

MyLesPaul proudly supports St. Jude Children's Research Hospital

Copyright © 2006-2014, MyLesPaul.com. All Rights Reserved.