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Unread 08-15-2013, 12:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Lpj???

I did a search on LPJ and came up nothing on this forum. Did anyone try this easy priced les paul? I played a lefty one to test some amps and it sounded nice. The build and look was basic, no-nonsense, and looked like it would be a keeper. $699.
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Unread 08-15-2013, 01:00 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I've played them. Good guts, cheap finish. If the finish is something you like/can live with then go for it, everything about the guitar is perfectly workable.
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Re: Lpj???

At 699$ I would be looking at a used 90's studio.



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User Epirocks has a white one I think. Great guitars IMO, today I was really thinking about buying one. True workhorse. I would say they are worth the money.
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Re: Lpj???

to me lpj looks like an unfinished guitar build that a luthier gave up on..one thing nice is the maple top .. so its pretty strait forward. I could only buy this guitar if I plan to refinish it one day. but I think a used studio would be better choice for me .. or a used sg standard ( you can find them as cheap as 700)
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Is finish a cosmetic thing for the concerned, or does it raise protective issues like shielding against minor damage, moisture, elements etc. or tonal effects?

Also, I know some folks that strip the finish off for various reasons. For example even John Lennon had the finish removed from his Epi Casino.
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The thicker finish on the more expensive models will protect better over the long run, whereas the thin finish on the LPJ will wear more easily and age quicker. Not necessarily a bad thing if you are into that look. Some people prefer the feel of a satin-like finish and will even go far as argue that it improves tone (hence the VOS finish on reissues), but that is widely debatable.
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Re: Lpj???

I goofed with one at the local GC -- Thought it was pretty nice. As some mentioned, would *probably* go with a used Studio if the right one came up. But nothing wrong with the thing generally speaking...
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For $599 get an Epiphone tribute plus. Nicer finish...Come with Gibson 57 pickups and wiring and you get a hard case....whats to think about? Those LPJ's are multiple pieces of wood, have finishes that wear off and have those ugly black pickups.


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I've been leaving my traditional at home the last few gigs. This Jr is AWESOME!

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Fastest LP neck I've ever played , testicular tone, modern aesthetic, what's not to like. I'm waiting on a chocolate . I'll probably put a Bowen Handle on it.
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I think LPJ and Les Paul Junior are different things
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For $599 get an Epiphone tribute plus. Nicer finish...Come with Gibson 57 pickups and wiring and you get a hard case....whats to think about? Those LPJ's are multiple pieces of wood, have finishes that wear off and have those ugly black pickups.

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Beautiful photo ... Unfortunately this is the same Epiphone LP standard, but with different pickups and hard case. Pickups do not sound themselves. Even Gibson Classic 57 pickups.... In my opinion this Epiphone is worth it to buy used cheap, replace the pickups, and sell Epiphone again. People in Eastern Europe do this to get the Classic 57 cheaper. These pickups here are very expensive. I vote for used studio....
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Re: Lpj???

I'd take a cheap Gibson anyday. Epiphones are made of a lot of pieces too, but it's mystery wood. At least with the Gibson you know you're getting good wood, even if it's not the prettiest.
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Yep! Sure did. Tried it, bought it and a hardcase to store. Gig bag is nice but hardly protective.

Very nice guitar and at a very good price. I got the white one and I'm bloody pleased with everything. I can't fault it in any way.
I would've preferred 57 classics but, for now the 490's will suffice.

I highly recommend the white LPJ. I found the neck on mine to be just perfect and a little slimmer than the others.

You'll just have to try them out till you find the one that suits you best.









She's a sweet and simple LP with only what you need to get the job done. An excellent, bare bones, workhorse.

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Beautiful photo ... Unfortunately this is the same Epiphone LP standard, but with different pickups and hard case. Pickups do not sound themselves. Even Gibson Classic 57 pickups.... In my opinion this Epiphone is worth it to buy used cheap, replace the pickups, and sell Epiphone again. People in Eastern Europe do this to get the Classic 57 cheaper. These pickups here are very expensive. I vote for used studio....
Actually its got better pots, caps etc. They really do sound amazing for the money and not hard to look at either. Finish work is superb. I've never felt a sharp fret on any of these. Very good quality. Just something to consider at that price point. The pickups and the black tuners on the LPJ look butt ugly to me and the finish is paper thin. The Epi will look just as good 20 years from now.
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I'm sure every part on an epiphone is a cheaper "licensed" version of what you get on a Gibson. The tuners, pickups, knobs,electronics, all hardware etc.
Even the nice top on an Epi is a vaneer. If you've ever seen an Epi with the pickups and hardware removed you get an idea for what the quality of the wood is really like.
Never the less they do feel solid and can be great players too.
If you are looking for a road guitar to thrash and gig with go with the Gibson.
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Yep! Sure did. Tried it, bought it and a hardcase to store. Gig bag is nice but hardly protective.

Very nice guitar and at a very good price. I got the white one and I'm bloody pleased with everything. I can't fault it in any way.
I would've preferred 57 classics but, for now the 490's will suffice.

I highly recommend the white LPJ. I found the neck on mine to be just perfect and a little slimmer than the others.

You'll just have to try them out till you find the one that suits you best.

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She's a sweet and simple LP with only what you need to get the job done. An excellent, bare bones, workhorse.

Cheers
Your guitar is sooo cool. Love it!
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Your guitar is sooo cool. Love it!

Well thankyou. Much appreciated.
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Actually its got better pots, caps etc. They really do sound amazing for the money and not hard to look at either. Finish work is superb. I've never felt a sharp fret on any of these. Very good quality. Just something to consider at that price point. The pickups and the black tuners on the LPJ look butt ugly to me and the finish is paper thin. The Epi will look just as good 20 years from now.
Hmm, interesting...so what kind of pots do they use on these...and how have you concluded that the caps would be better (less tolerance?).?
Ive got nothing against epis. Have a goth myself and its great. However, the epi simply is a cheaper construction. The neck is totally different in its construction. And sure, a thick poly finish will look good, why shouldnt it? The question is if you want thick poly. If theres any truth to the concept of tonewood in electric guitars (which I doubt) thick plastic is hardly beneficial.
I dislike the poly because it feels and looks like plastic = dead. (for some reason). A nitro has a natural feel to it, and is easily repairable if needed. Try repairing a thick cracked poly....
So, while I do enjoy my epi, its no match for any Gibson LP model.... They are simply better builds. Has nothing to do with where they are made or who built them, its the total design and production methodology....
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To be honest I'd steer clear of a 'faded' Gibson....... the finish rubs off very easily. I personally thing that they look extremely cheap and nasty. Matte finishes can look good, but you really need to use grain filler- which as far as I'm aware Gibson does not. A used Studio (gloss!) would be the way to go.
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Being a Gibson and Epiphone owner, I would buy the Gibson over the Epiphone every time.
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I just got my chocolate LPJ last Wednesday. I'm very happy with it! It's my first Gibson... I'm not one to spend a lot on a guitar right now, and I fell in love with the bare wood looks of the LPJ. It sounds and plays great. I tried one out at Guitar Center, and that one didn't look as good or play nearly as well as the one I got shipped to me.

I do plan on changing out the tuning machines (with Gotoh SD90s), the pickups (not sure what to replace them with yet), and the bridge (for a TonePros locking bridge and tailpiece).

Other than this, I've got two ESP LTDs and one Ibanez (classical-electric). This one is going to get the most play time, I believe.
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I just got my chocolate LPJ last Wednesday. I'm very happy with it! It's my first Gibson... I'm not one to spend a lot on a guitar right now, and I fell in love with the bare wood looks of the LPJ. It sounds and plays great. I tried one out at Guitar Center, and that one didn't look as good or play nearly as well as the one I got shipped to me.

I do plan on changing out the tuning machines (with Gotoh SD90s), the pickups (not sure what to replace them with yet), and the bridge (for a TonePros locking bridge and tailpiece).

Other than this, I've got two ESP LTDs and one Ibanez (classical-electric). This one is going to get the most play time, I believe.
I'll trade you a brand new set of chrome sperzels for you're tuners, I'd love to have the black keys on my SG... I'll send a pm too
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I'll trade you a brand new set of chrome sperzels for you're tuners, I'd love to have the black keys on my SG... I'll send a pm too
Haha, well it'll be a little bit before I get any new tuners for it. Also, I have a very specific style for them that I would like to have. That's why I like the Gotoh SD90s; they fit the look perfectly. I want to go all black, so chrome really wouldn't work for that.

I greatly appreciate the offer though!
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Haha, well it'll be a little bit before I get any new tuners for it. Also, I have a very specific style for them that I would like to have. That's why I like the Gotoh SD90s; they fit the look perfectly. I want to go all black, so chrome really wouldn't work for that.

I greatly appreciate the offer though!
No problem, when you do get you're new tuners keep me in mind if you want to sell those! Thanks
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