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Unread 12-27-2012, 05:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Gibson Les Paul Custom refinish

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I just bought a black 1987 Les Paul Custom. It has NUMEROUS nicks and gouges from what would appear to be a belt buckle and it looks really rough. I have read that refinishing a Les Paul is blasphemy. What are some people's opinions. Value isn't really that important to me as I am going to keep this for the rest of my life I think. Also cost is not an issue as my uncle is a custom wood worker and will do it for free. Thanks a lot!
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Unread 12-27-2012, 05:48 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Gibson Les Paul Custom refinish

My opinion? It isn't my guitar, so you shouldn't care about my opinion.

If you don't like the wear on the guitar, then get it refinished. Just know that you'll have to keep doing it if you intend to actually play the guitar, as playing it would accumulate more and more scrapes and dings as time goes on.
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Re: Gibson Les Paul Custom refinish

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...refinishing a Les Paul is blasphemy...
You said it. Now don't do it.

How about some pics so we can see?
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Guitars are not chairs. Consider long and hard before refinishing one.
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Re: Gibson Les Paul Custom refinish

I don't think you'll keep it for the rest of your life.
This is how it will play out........................
I think you'll play it for awhile until you see something else that catchers your fancy,
And if you don't have the funds for the new eye catcher, you will sell the Custom to satisfy your Les Paul Hunger!
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Re: Gibson Les Paul Custom refinish

Picture is tough to tell but these nicks are pretty much all over and you can fit your fingernail in each one.

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I don't think you'll keep it for the rest of your life.
This is how it will play out........................
I think you'll play it for awhile until you see something else that catchers your fancy,
And if you don't have the funds for the new eye catcher, you will sell the Custom to satisfy your Les Paul Hunger!
you are so right but I am in love right now.
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Re: Gibson Les Paul Custom refinish

what the **** could possibly have made nicks like that, a fingernail? a screwdriver?
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the nicks all over the back are from a belt buckle apparently. I dont know about the front. maybe he was f&#$ing it
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Re: Gibson Les Paul Custom refinish

It's your guitar. You should do anything you want to it to maximize your enjoyment of it. What color are you thinking?
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Re: Gibson Les Paul Custom refinish

You bought it so you must have either liked it the way it was or planned on a refinish from the beginning. It's got character from what ever the previous owner did to it and if you like it like that fine if not refinish.
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Note that I didn't say "don't do it." it's your guitar, just know that you'll kill the resale value by making the guitar non original. Go to CL or eBay and compare prices on refins with non refin beaters. Still, your guitar, do as you wish and good luck!
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It's your guitar. You should do anything you want to it to maximize your enjoyment of it. What color are you thinking?
I want to keep it black and perhaps just get scuffs out
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Note that I didn't say "don't do it." it's your guitar, just know that you'll kill the resale value by making the guitar non original. Go to CL or eBay and compare prices on refins with non refin beaters. Still, your guitar, do as you wish and good luck!

It really depends on how it's done. A refinish doesn't automatically bring the value of a guitar down... If you get it down by a Gibson certified luthier you won't even be able to tell it was a refinish...

OP, why should you care what others think..?
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Re: Gibson Les Paul Custom refinish

Find a pro and get it done right. Resale value be damed, some people like beatup Pauls, some don't. Do whatever makes you happy, it your guitar after all.
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Note that I didn't say "don't do it." it's your guitar, just know that you'll kill the resale value by making the guitar non original. Go to CL or eBay and compare prices on refins with non refin beaters. Still, your guitar, do as you wish and good luck!
I can't find many refinishes I assume it's because most people don't do them. thanks for the advice
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It really depends on how it's done. A refinish doesn't automatically bring the value of a guitar down... If you get it down by a Gibson certified luthier you won't even be able to tell it was a refinish...

OP, why should you care what others think..?
I am not asking because I care what people think I was just wondering people's experience and just get some opinions is all. I guess a local luthier who does really nice work but not necessarily with guitars is not a good idea?
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I am not asking because I care what people think I was just wondering people's experience and just get some opinions is all. I guess a local luthier who does really nice work but not necessarily with guitars is not a good idea?
May I suggest Freddy G here on forun. He does amazing refinishes
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Re: Gibson Les Paul Custom refinish

I take it you gots it on the cheap ?

Id leave it - especially a black custom.

if it's from the 70's id imagine from the looks of it owner had one of those thick leather straps with the huge buckles on. I was given one and that's caused some very similar dents and chips in the front of mine when I've been careless.
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It's a black guitar. It will have scratches. Getting it redone now would only be temporary. I know posers are concerned about things like that.

My opinion...leave the mojo as it is.
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1975 Les Paul Custom Refinish (pic heavy!)

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It's a black guitar. It will have scratches. Getting it redone now would only be temporary. I know posers are concerned about things like that.

My opinion...leave the mojo as it is.
I don' think it's the case of being a poser..a poser in my eyes is someone that plays an epi with a gibson logo glued on the front.

Nothing wrong with wanting to fix up some marks - and those aint marks those is gouges and chips...

posers indeed

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I can see why that was refinished soon as I seen the first picture

nice thread, love refinish threads.
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I know posers are concerned about things like that.
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I take it you gots it on the cheap ?

Id leave it - especially a black custom.

if it's from the 70's id imagine from the looks of it owner had one of those thick leather straps with the huge buckles on. I was given one and that's caused some very similar dents and chips in the front of mine when I've been careless.
I did get it at a considerable discount.
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I don't intend to use posers in a harmful way. IMHO a poser is someone who spends so much time and money worried about the looks and stats that their energy could be redirected to more functional usage. There are people that do the same thing with cars, cameras, guns, etc. They are not bad people. They just have different priorities than I do.
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I did get it at a considerable discount.
then it can either go one of two ways;

1, play it like you stole the damn thing

2, spend a small amount more to bring it up to a standard you're happy with, assuming it won't exceed the value of the guitar.

a refinished guitar is worth more than one beaten to hell.

depends how you look at it.

02589 I prefer to leave mine beaten and just play them regardless - but to each their own.
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then it can either go one of two ways;

1, play it like you stole the damn thing

2, spend a small amount more to bring it up to a standard you're happy with, assuming it won't exceed the value of the guitar.

a refinished guitar is worth more than one beaten to hell.

depends how you look at it.

02589 I prefer to leave mine beaten and just play them regardless - but to each their own.
thanks for your advice.
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Let's see pics of the whole guitar!
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Hello,
I just bought a black 1987 Les Paul Custom. It has NUMEROUS nicks and gouges from what would appear to be a belt buckle and it looks really rough. I have read that refinishing a Les Paul is blasphemy. What are some people's opinions. Value isn't really that important to me as I am going to keep this for the rest of my life I think. Also cost is not an issue as my uncle is a custom wood worker and will do it for free. Thanks a lot!
Sorry, but this had me cracking up. You’re trying to get rid of the “nicks” and “gouges”, while many pay top dollar for a brand new instrument with these very "defects." One man’s “nick” and “gouge” is another man’s desirable relic. Hey, why not try and sell it here. You might make some good money! BTW, is your last name Murphy?
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Re: Gibson Les Paul Custom refinish

IDK how people are acting like that's some kind of 'relicing' going on on that guitar..

It's an '87 that someone hit with a piece of metal in the worst way. Not sure about the collectors market for an abused '87 Custom, but I'd say that you're better off keeping it to play than as an investment.

Look at that 70's Refin post - the new finish makes it look FANTASTIC. Now you don't have a clown burst, but if you want your guitar to look and feel great than I suggest a high quality refin.

That is not relicing :|
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