An Honest Question re Gibson quality/price

[nagha]

I don't know if I can admit it here but I gotta be honest that the Fender Telecaster Select with humbucker looks like an amazing guitar. And given that GC is advertising it at roughly $2100... if you could score that guitar for $1500-1600, it'd be a very nice guitar to have.

But given my tastes, I'd probably opt for the Jackson PC1. Heheh.

[Joeydego]

Originally Posted by nagha

I don't know if I can admit it here but I gotta be honest that the Fender Telecaster Select with humbucker looks like an amazing guitar. And given that GC is advertising it at roughly $2100... if you could score that guitar for $1500-1600, it'd be a very nice guitar to have.

But given my tastes, I'd probably opt for the Jackson PC1. Heheh.

Humbuckers belong on teles like webbed feet belong on monkeys. Sorry, but that's gospel.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Originally Posted by Joeydego

Humbuckers belong on teles like webbed feet belong on monkeys. Sorry, but that's gospel.

A good minihumbucker in the neck position makes for an even more versatile guitar.

Originally Posted by SnowWhite

Oh, now I see it. Thanks for pointing it out.


Ok, let me put it this way:
Does Carvin have a return policy? I mean, of course they do, but, does
their return policy would let me buy the guitar from them, send it to my home, let me test, don't like it, return it, no questions asked?

Besides, do they send stuff to Mexico?
Also, all this shipping, taxes, don't like it, return it... is all very time consuming. Also psychologically consuming, I waited and waited anxiously for my guitar that when it arrived I was drained.
So all of that ordeal just to test a guitar? I'll pass.

And I don't like they guitar shapes or finishes really, and some look so ostentatious...

And I knew the Gibson was gonna be great, of course "knew" was kinda more based on faith than actual knowledge (but I did tried some Standards and Epis... so I "knew" a Studio was going to at least sound very very good, whether it was gonna fit my playing hands... that I really didn't know).

I don't expect you to understand, lol, but really, I love love love my guitar, and I don't expect to change anything about it (maybe in the far future add coil splitting, if that's doable) and maybe just get a 2nd one (for lower tunings) and that's it, I don't suffer GAS really.

I understand. It's just that this is one long paean to a double-standard.

If you're happy with your Gibson, that's great. Just don't think you've shown that there's any difference mail-ordering a Gibson against mail-ordering a Carvin. And don't pretend that there's any big difference in quality. They're both fine guitars, and UPS can break both of them equally easily.

[Joeydego]

Originally Posted by Thumpalumpacus

A good minihumbucker in the neck position makes for an even more versatile guitar.



I understand. It's just that this is one long paean to a double-standard.

If you're happy with your Gibson, that's great. Just don't think you've shown that there's any difference mail-ordering a Gibson against mail-ordering a Carvin. And don't pretend that there's any big difference in quality. They're both fine guitars, and UPS can break both of them equally easily.

That's true. However, versatile, get a Jem or a Jackson. I think a tele should be a tele.

[nagha]

Originally Posted by Joeydego

Humbuckers belong on teles like webbed feet belong on monkeys. Sorry, but that's gospel.

Sorry, I might love my Les Paul but I can also appreciate how the marriage of a Strat and LP sounds would be heavenly.

[Malikon]

Originally Posted by nagha

Sorry, I might love my Les Paul but I can also appreciate how the marriage of a Strat and LP sounds would be heavenly.

Schecter guitars.

[roodyrocker]

Originally Posted by nagha

I don't know if I can admit it here but I gotta be honest that the Fender Telecaster Select with humbucker looks like an amazing guitar. And given that GC is advertising it at roughly $2100... if you could score that guitar for $1500-1600, it'd be a very nice guitar to have.

But given my tastes, I'd probably opt for the Jackson PC1. Heheh.

I have a Jackson PC-1, absolutely fantastic guitar! The only thing is the lack of inlays really does screw me up playing wise
As much as I like my Les Pauls, many had some minor issues from the factory. Things such a saddle popping up from the bridge causing string buzz and the note dying out on a B7. Or a wiring problem on a LPC making the neck pickup weak. No, I didn't send the guitars back but I can see where someone says this shouldn't be on a LP from the factory. And btw, this inconsistency has always. Been there at Gibson. I still like my LP's, not more than my Jacksons, but still like 'em

Rudy

[rockstar232007]

Originally Posted by Sparco

Gibson doesn't give a fu*k to anyone. People buy their stuff because of history and that's just how it is. Sure the price they are asking for is stupid. The quality doesn't pair on what you pay. The guys who doesn't have problems on their Gibsons is probably because they have always wanted a Gibson and have always looked for one. Always going in one direction. When you go that way sure you find a nice Gibson guitar, but you have no idea what the hell other companies are doing and what is their price for it. I like only old Gibsons. New ones? fu*k them, I ain't going to be their slave to buy that thing.

But you know, people are different, and some just are willing to pay for that name and they just don't need to think about other companies.

Hell, if they made great guitars in the 50's, as we even say "Holy Grail", then I will get pretty much the same guitar, but new today, right?

I fell in love with Gibson guitars, when I was 5 years old. That was before I even knew what "Gibson" was, let alone their history.

All I knew, is that they were great guitars, and aside from a few QC issues, they still are.

[SnowWhite]

Originally Posted by Thumpalumpacus

... Just don't think you've shown that there's any difference mail-ordering a Gibson against mail-ordering a Carvin. And don't pretend that there's any big difference in quality. They're both fine guitars, and UPS can break both of them equally easily.

True, nor I pretend to show said difference.
If a Carvin is just as good as a LP, I take my hat off.
This Gibson guitar is the best thing that happened to me ever (musically speaking).
And although I haven't tested a Carvin, I don't doubt they could/are actually great guitars, since I have a Yamaha bass that kicks the ass of a Fender Precision (at least that's my perception).

I guess after all this much talking, testing the instrument by YOURSELF (if possible) is the best route.