Locking Kluson tuners

The Archer · 07-19-2012, 05:43 PM

I ordered a set of nickel Tone Pros Kluson style locking tuners a few weeks back and they arrived today. Just finished installing them (pics below) and am pretty happy with the result. Not only is stringing a breeze now but the extra mass on the head is a nice thing...they did give the guitar a tad more meat over the original tuners. They are rock solid and really accurate. Great tuners.

Looks wise it takes any vintage idea and tosses it....but I don't really care since this isn't a vintage guitar.

String changes are going to be a breeze with these and, lets be honest, that is the best reason to use locking tuners.

bosnialove · 07-19-2012, 06:38 PM

Heeeeuy, I've had those same TPKB3-L tuners from TonePros on my LP Studio. I loved them! Great tuners!

Do you have some day pics? Maybe I'll consider them buying again for my new LP..

AxeBuilder · 07-19-2012, 06:40 PM

Those look great!

justbob · 07-19-2012, 06:43 PM

I'm a big fan of locking tuners.
Way better for string changes.

ehamady6 · 07-19-2012, 06:47 PM

Locking tuners rule. I put some locking Grovers on my Custom. Along with my TonePros locking bridge and locking tailpiece, they squeeze out a little more sustain.

deadringer · 07-19-2012, 06:49 PM

I like the idea of locking klusons, but not loving the knurled lock on the top. I like that they keep the original look though. How do they lock? Just tighten the thumb screw down on the top and that's it?

The Archer · 07-19-2012, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deadringer

I like the idea of locking klusons, but not loving the knurled lock on the top. I like that they keep the original look though. How do they lock? Just tighten the thumb screw down on the top and that's it?

Thats exactly it

deadringer · 07-19-2012, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Archer

Thats exactly it

Hmm... I like the simplicity of it. Thanks for posting this, I might have to check some out.

fsenseman · 07-20-2012, 06:13 AM

I've got a set of these in black on my worn brown studio. Since the face of the headstock is black they blend in very well unless you're very close. I love them. I use Schallers on my Fenders but these are better in my opinion.

michael2003x · 07-20-2012, 07:01 AM

String changes are a lot quiker with locking tuners, but also I find that the strings settle quicker without having winds around the posts.

straybeat · 08-04-2012, 10:25 PM

Do you have your old ones for sale? I just bought a used LP and one was bashed, the rest are cheap crap. PM me.

Tommy0303xxx · 08-04-2012, 10:38 PM

Those look really good. Locking tuners are awesome.

jeffy · 08-05-2012, 01:49 AM

I agree that they do ruin the vintage look but I love locking tuners. So those are direct replacement for the Deluxe? I might have to do that on my BJA.

RedSkwirrell · 08-05-2012, 04:59 AM

My 'Robot' came with lockers as standard (makes sense with the amount and frequency of tuning high-jinks available).
Wouldn't have occurred to me to think about changing to them otherwise, but they are brilliant.
Personally I wish they were smaller but that's a functionality sacrifice.
This has to become the standard way to go on future LP's(?).

allen319 · 08-05-2012, 07:28 AM

When you change tuners on a LP, are they tuners and headstock tuner holes all consistent? Or do you need to modify the holes?

fsenseman · 08-05-2012, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allen319

When you change tuners on a LP, are they tuners and headstock tuner holes all consistent? Or do you need to modify the holes?

The Kluson locking tuners were a direct drop-in replacement for my worn brown studio. No modifications needed.

Wiking · 08-05-2012, 01:24 PM

Probably very convenient, but ugly as hell.
In the end, what is the time advantage? 1 minute per string? 6 minutes on a whole guitar.
Hmmmm.
With my paul with bigsby it already costs me 20 minutes to completely change. Then 26.
Never break a string during playing, have a roller bridge. And always a spare guitar on me.

politenessman · 08-05-2012, 01:57 PM

i have these "kluson type" locking tuners. i am not sure who the manufacturer is, i got them at all parts. i think they look better than the type with the big knurled lock on top. these have no lock to turn. they lock automatically when you tighten the string. inexpensive, too.

IMG_1125 (1280x960) by politenessman, on Flickr

Wiking · 08-05-2012, 03:34 PM

[QUOTE=politenessman;4150174]i have these "kluson type" locking tuners. i am not sure who the manufacturer is, i got them at all parts. i think they look better than the type with the big knurled lock on top. these have no lock to turn. they lock automatically when you tighten the string. inexpensive, too.

Hmmm, way better indeed. How do they work exactly?

barricwiley · 08-05-2012, 03:44 PM

Hey Wiking, looks great. Any chance of popping a link to the exact tuners?
Thanks either way.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiking

Probably very convenient, but ugly as hell.
In the end, what is the time advantage? 1 minute per string? 6 minutes on a whole guitar.
Hmmmm.
With my paul with bigsby it already costs me 20 minutes to completely change. Then 26.
Never break a string during playing, have a roller bridge. And always a spare guitar on me.

politenessman · 08-05-2012, 03:57 PM

[quote=Wiking;4150420]

Quote:

Originally Posted by politenessman

i have these "kluson type" locking tuners. i am not sure who the manufacturer is, i got them at all parts. i think they look better than the type with the big knurled lock on top. these have no lock to turn. they lock automatically when you tighten the string. inexpensive, too.

Hmmm, way better indeed. How do they work exactly?

you pull the string thru the hole in the post and hold it, or bend it up. then wind the tuner. first the pin inside the post rises to lock the string, then the post starts turning. simple and elegant.

The Archer · 08-05-2012, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiking

Probably very convenient, but ugly as hell.
In the end, what is the time advantage? 1 minute per string? 6 minutes on a whole guitar.
Hmmmm.
With my paul with bigsby it already costs me 20 minutes to completely change. Then 26.
Never break a string during playing, have a roller bridge. And always a spare guitar on me.

DUring a gig every second matters. Even if I go to a spare I'd rather take a couple seconds putting in a new string than doing a wrap.

jcdawson · 08-07-2012, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barricwiley

. . .looks great. Any chance of popping a link to the exact tuners?
Thanks either way.

Perhaps these from Allparts? I don't see any knurled locks in the photos. On the other hand, I can't be sure they are the same as politenessman's, because there aren't any good views of the tops of the posts, and at $80 these tuners aren't necessarily cheap:

<http://www.allparts.com/Locking-Tuners-Vintage-3x3-Nickel-p/tk-0735-001.htm>

politenessman · 08-07-2012, 09:15 PM

i cant get your link to work but here are the one's i got. i think $80 is relatively cheap for decent locking tuners.

Locking Tuners Vintage 3x3 Nickel | Allparts.com

and btw they fit in the same holes as the "gibson deluxe" and also use the same screwholes. so no drilling or reaming your headstock.

Les Paul Newb · 08-07-2012, 09:52 PM

Why cant someone make locking tuners for a LP similar to those for a Fender? Where they look the same from the front, no bulky weird stuff going on.

I don't care if there's a little knob on the back of the machine head..... nobody sees that side anyway.

EDIT: nevermind, the ones on the link look good. But are they high quality? No brand name.

jcdawson · 08-07-2012, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by politenessman

i cant get your link to work but here are the one's i got. i think $80 is relatively cheap for decent locking tuners.

Locking Tuners Vintage 3x3 Nickel | Allparts.com

and btw they fit in the same holes as the "gibson deluxe" and also use the same screwholes. so no drilling or reaming your headstock.

Yep, those are the ones I saw. Thanks for the info. I've been looking for a locking set to retrofit into my Special, looks like these fit the bill.

07-19-2012, 05:43 PM	#1 (permalink)
The Archer Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Earth Posts: 2,513 Thanks: 22 Thanked 39 Times in 22 Posts	Locking Kluson tuners I ordered a set of nickel Tone Pros Kluson style locking tuners a few weeks back and they arrived today. Just finished installing them (pics below) and am pretty happy with the result. Not only is stringing a breeze now but the extra mass on the head is a nice thing...they did give the guitar a tad more meat over the original tuners. They are rock solid and really accurate. Great tuners. Looks wise it takes any vintage idea and tosses it....but I don't really care since this isn't a vintage guitar. String changes are going to be a breeze with these and, lets be honest, that is the best reason to use locking tuners. deadringer and RedSkwirrell like this. __________________ *** 'Practice cures most tone issues' - John Suhr Last edited by The Archer; 07-19-2012 at 07:40 PM.

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bosnialove Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Bosnia / Netherlands Posts: 1,749 Thanks: 20 Thanked 24 Times in 11 Posts	Re: Locking Kluson tuners Heeeeuy, I've had those same TPKB3-L tuners from TonePros on my LP Studio. I loved them! Great tuners! Do you have some day pics? Maybe I'll consider them buying again for my new LP.. __________________

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justbob Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 104 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Locking Kluson tuners I'm a big fan of locking tuners. Way better for string changes.

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ehamady6 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Battle Creek, MI Posts: 3,544 Thanks: 20 Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Locking Kluson tuners Locking tuners rule. I put some locking Grovers on my Custom. Along with my TonePros locking bridge and locking tailpiece, they squeeze out a little more sustain. __________________ _________________________

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deadringer Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Saginaw, TX Posts: 1,128 Thanks: 10 Thanked 18 Times in 11 Posts	Re: Locking Kluson tuners I like the idea of locking klusons, but not loving the knurled lock on the top. I like that they keep the original look though. How do they lock? Just tighten the thumb screw down on the top and that's it?

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fsenseman Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Central NH Posts: 440 Thanks: 8 Thanked 10 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Locking Kluson tuners I've got a set of these in black on my worn brown studio. Since the face of the headstock is black they blend in very well unless you're very close. I love them. I use Schallers on my Fenders but these are better in my opinion.

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michael2003x Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: London Posts: 522 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Locking Kluson tuners String changes are a lot quiker with locking tuners, but also I find that the strings settle quicker without having winds around the posts.

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straybeat Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,982 Thanks: 7 Thanked 15 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Locking Kluson tuners Do you have your old ones for sale? I just bought a used LP and one was bashed, the rest are cheap crap. PM me. __________________ Worrying works. 90% of what I worry about never happens!

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Tommy0303xxx Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Vinton, LA Posts: 206 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Locking Kluson tuners Those look really good. Locking tuners are awesome.

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jeffy Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 560 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Locking Kluson tuners I agree that they do ruin the vintage look but I love locking tuners. So those are direct replacement for the Deluxe? I might have to do that on my BJA. __________________ 2012 Gibson Les Paul Standard - Skatterbrane Zebra 2009 Gibson Les Paul Junior BJA Signature 1996 Peavey Predator Blackstar HT-5

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RedSkwirrell Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Windsor, U.K. Posts: 4,250 Thanks: 33 Thanked 135 Times in 41 Posts	Re: Locking Kluson tuners My 'Robot' came with lockers as standard (makes sense with the amount and frequency of tuning high-jinks available). Wouldn't have occurred to me to think about changing to them otherwise, but they are brilliant. Personally I wish they were smaller but that's a functionality sacrifice. This has to become the standard way to go on future LP's(?). __________________ . . . . 1990 Gibson Les Paul Std Custom Shop and 2010 Gibson Les Paul Std Ltd ('Robot') "You can't go to the store and buy a good ear and rhythm." Les Paul [1915 - 2009] Today is April 1st. Just sayin....

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allen319 Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Tinley Park, Il Posts: 69 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Locking Kluson tuners When you change tuners on a LP, are they tuners and headstock tuner holes all consistent? Or do you need to modify the holes? __________________ Allen 2012 Les Paul Traditional Pro Vintage Sunburst 2009 Taylor 414ce LTD-R 2007 Fender Stratocastor HSS MIM 2003 Martin DX-1 2011 Fender GDEC-30 amp 2010 Acoustic AG30 amp

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Wiking Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 139 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Locking Kluson tuners Probably very convenient, but ugly as hell. In the end, what is the time advantage? 1 minute per string? 6 minutes on a whole guitar. Hmmmm. With my paul with bigsby it already costs me 20 minutes to completely change. Then 26. Never break a string during playing, have a roller bridge. And always a spare guitar on me.

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politenessman Bartlett Retrospec Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: nyc (lamf) Posts: 1,803 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Locking Kluson tuners i have these "kluson type" locking tuners. i am not sure who the manufacturer is, i got them at all parts. i think they look better than the type with the big knurled lock on top. these have no lock to turn. they lock automatically when you tighten the string. inexpensive, too. IMG_1125 (1280x960) by politenessman, on Flickr jcdawson likes this. __________________ 2011 traditional 1960 tea burst throbaks 2011 studio a.w./ebony board wcr's 2008 fender amer standard strat hss vox ac15c1 peavey delta blues 115 maxon ad9 pro analog delay turbo tuner throbak stone bender teese rmc wheels of fire wah timmy v2 throbak strangemaster

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Wiking Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 139 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Locking Kluson tuners [QUOTE=politenessman;4150174]i have these "kluson type" locking tuners. i am not sure who the manufacturer is, i got them at all parts. i think they look better than the type with the big knurled lock on top. these have no lock to turn. they lock automatically when you tighten the string. inexpensive, too. Hmmm, way better indeed. How do they work exactly?

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politenessman Bartlett Retrospec Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: nyc (lamf) Posts: 1,803 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Locking Kluson tuners i cant get your link to work but here are the one's i got. i think $80 is relatively cheap for decent locking tuners. Locking Tuners Vintage 3x3 Nickel \| Allparts.com and btw they fit in the same holes as the "gibson deluxe" and also use the same screwholes. so no drilling or reaming your headstock. __________________ 2011 traditional 1960 tea burst throbaks 2011 studio a.w./ebony board wcr's 2008 fender amer standard strat hss vox ac15c1 peavey delta blues 115 maxon ad9 pro analog delay turbo tuner throbak stone bender teese rmc wheels of fire wah timmy v2 throbak strangemaster

08-07-2012, 09:52 PM	#25 (permalink)
Les Paul Newb Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 480 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Locking Kluson tuners Why cant someone make locking tuners for a LP similar to those for a Fender? Where they look the same from the front, no bulky weird stuff going on. I don't care if there's a little knob on the back of the machine head..... nobody sees that side anyway. EDIT: nevermind, the ones on the link look good. But are they high quality? No brand name.

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