NGD - 1992 Gibson Les Paul Classic Plus

Fireproof · 07-11-2012, 04:35 PM

Just picked this up today - found it in my local Craigslist. 20 year old guitar kept in the case most of it's life. Even had the original sales receipt bought at Dave's Guitar Shop here in Dallas for $1650.

Let me know what you think.

Also - What's the best way to clean the frets and nickel hardware? Not to make them pretty, because they are aged nicely, but just to get any major gunk out of the crevasses. I'll do a SEARCH, but if you have a quick tip or a link - that would be great.

Here you go. Came with original brown case with pink lining. I'M IN HEAVEN. Can't wait to get some new strings on it.

randelli · 07-11-2012, 04:40 PM

I think you should send it to me for a closer look

axepilot · 07-11-2012, 04:52 PM

Nice!

You can clean the fretboard with naphtha (lighter fluid), but it doesn't really look like it needs that from what I see in the pics. You can also polish the frets - I use a Micro Mesh 4000 grit sanding pad to polish my frets. The nickel hardware has the look that a lot players lust over - worn in. I'd leave it as is.

I say restring it and rock out.

Wagonpeddler · 07-11-2012, 04:53 PM

Truly beautiful. Should have checked Craig's List in Dallas. Nothin' like that here. Enjoy!
Hope the price was right...but if not, you got a beauty there.

oli · 07-11-2012, 04:55 PM

Nice Classic you have there ! And a very nice top, too.
Congrats !

rjcampbell · 07-11-2012, 05:07 PM

Mother of god that's nice! :O

Fireproof · 07-11-2012, 05:07 PM

Thanks for the comments guys! Appreciate it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by axepilot

Nice!

You can clean the fretboard with naphtha (lighter fluid), but it doesn't really look like it needs that from what I see in the pics. You can also polish the frets - I use a Micro Mesh 4000 grit sanding pad to polish my frets. The nickel hardware has the look that a lot players lust over - worn in. I'd leave it as is.

I say restring it and rock out.

Yeah - I'm thinking of just taking an old tooth brush to the edges of the frets to get the loose dirt out, applying a bit of fretboard oil, and being done with it.

christophervolume · 07-11-2012, 05:13 PM

very cool. i dig the earlier classics without the green inlays. play on!

Backstage · 07-11-2012, 05:38 PM

Very classical - happy NGD.

randelli · 07-11-2012, 06:53 PM

I need a 92 to complete my ensemble. I hope I find one as nice as yours - it is perfect! Nice big grain with just the right amount of flame. I like how it almost forms around the burst. I even like the offset grain and uneven color. Very organic.

Seriously, look for me if you ever want to sell it!!!!!

Fireproof · 07-11-2012, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randelli

I need a 92 to complete my ensemble. I hope I find one as nice as yours - it is perfect! Nice big grain with just the right amount of flame. I like how it almost forms around the burst. I even like the offset grain and uneven color. Very organic.

Seriously, look for me if you ever want to sell it!!!!!

Thanks and I'll keep you in mind!

bosnialove · 07-11-2012, 07:02 PM

I don't know if this is a no go.. But.. Did you pay a lot for it?

Don't like clown burst (is this one a clown burst?), but this one is so damn beautiful.

tazzboy · 07-11-2012, 08:27 PM

Very nice looking LP

Kezman · 07-11-2012, 08:40 PM

Nice score Fireproof! I've been eying the classic myself, but the newer ones seem to have a green tint to the pearl inlays, not to fond of the green. Your inlays appear to be normal.

Bobby Mahogany · 07-11-2012, 08:43 PM

Wow, wow, wow , wow!
One of the very nicest!
Now if you make that bridge shine, I will come over and break all your fingers.

christophervolume · 07-11-2012, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kez

Nice score Fireproof! I've been eying the classic myself, but the newer ones seem to have a green tint to the pearl inlays, not to fond of the green. Your inlays appear to be normal.

kez, i totally agree. i think the earlier classics from the early 90's have the white inlays. the mid 90's to todays have the greenish look, i believe.

BelAir · 07-12-2012, 12:25 AM

Very nice guitar,love abr bridge look.....enjoy it....

classic · 07-12-2012, 12:39 AM

Nice score ... congrats!

Rock City · 07-12-2012, 12:58 AM

Sadly, I have administration blocked request sh!t on my job so can not see the pics. So much free porn viewers around...
Congrats anyway and welcome to the club!
I cleaned dirt with gasoline bought in small bottle in pharmacy. That's really a fuel with no grease stuff in so it pretty dries fretboard. Then I oiled it with Dunlop 65 (don't use it too much!), left for 24 hours, cleaned the rest off and it looked pretty well. Rosewood felt alive again. Somehow after job done, frets came up nicely itself.

Gibsonrocknroll · 07-12-2012, 01:12 AM

Nice congrats.

formula73 · 07-12-2012, 01:18 AM

That thing looks absolutely fantastic. Mine's a 93...looks like that's the year they changed the inlay material to snot.

92Standard · 07-12-2012, 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bosnialove

I don't know if this is a no go.. But.. Did you pay a lot for it?

Don't like clown burst (is this one a clown burst?), but this one is so damn beautiful.

You don't like "clownbursts", but don't know what a "clownburst" looks like? You say you don't like them, then ask if that guitar IS one.

So....................of course I just HAVE to ask the obvious question............How does one know that they do not like clownbursts when if in fact, one doesn't know what a clownburst looks like?

Sorry dude, I just HAD to ask! haha..................all in good fun!

bosnialove · 07-12-2012, 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 92Standard

You don't like "clownbursts", but don't know what a "clownburst" looks like? You say you don't like them, then ask if that guitar IS one.

So....................of course I just HAVE to ask the obvious question............How does one know that they do not like clownbursts when if in fact, one doesn't know what a clownburst looks like?

Sorry dude, I just HAD to ask! haha..................all in good fun!

When I Google 'clownburst' i see this:

OP's new guitar looks similiar to these, but his has more flame (wich is good). Those on the pic above don't have so much flame and don't look so nice as the '92 Classic. So I was wondering if this one also is called a clownburst.

pietro · 07-12-2012, 03:47 AM

looks alot like my 92 classic

denka · 07-12-2012, 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bosnialove

OP's new guitar looks similiar to these, but his has more flame (wich is good). Those on the pic above don't have so much flame and don't look so nice as the '92 Classic. So I was wondering if this one also is called a clownburst.

The one in the OP is not a clownburst.

bosnialove · 07-12-2012, 04:49 AM

Is his just a Cherry Sunburst?

When is a LP called a clownburst then?

denka · 07-12-2012, 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bosnialove

When is a LP called a clownburst then?

A clownburst is just a sunburst with a very bad paintjob.

Fireproof · 07-12-2012, 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bosnialove

I don't know if this is a no go.. But.. Did you pay a lot for it?

Don't like clown burst (is this one a clown burst?), but this one is so damn beautiful.

Well, I think I got an okay deal. Not a great deal. Older classics (and particularly '91 and '92 years) bring more money than more recent years. As do the plus tops with the flame. Seem to range between $1500-1900 depending on condition. Lots of talk about early nineties being a high point in Gibson quality control, plus no green inlays at that point yet, etc. I googled '91-'93 Classic Plus sales, plus looked up completed ebay listings, then took the condition into account (this one was 2nd owner, case queen, no buckle rash, not a ding on it and I've looked hard, and came with original sales receipt, etc). So I paid near the high end of the range, but it just felt RIGHT in my hands, you know? And I've been watching local ads for a long time for an old LP in mint condition so I didn't want to miss out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kez

Nice score Fireproof! I've been eying the classic myself, but the newer ones seem to have a green tint to the pearl inlays, not to fond of the green. Your inlays appear to be normal.

Yes - the lack of green inlays was a key reason I wanted it. Not that there's anything wrong with snot green, I just prefer these. They have just enough tint to them to look older/aged.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobby Mahogany

Wow, wow, wow , wow!
One of the very nicest!
Now if you make that bridge shine, I will come over and break all your fingers.

LOL. Yeah - I didn't clean it. I just knocked some loose dirt off the saddle with a tooth brush and made sure the slots were clean. Otherwise I left it. Looks awesome!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by christophervolume

kez, i totally agree. i think the earlier classics from the early 90's have the white inlays. the mid 90's to todays have the greenish look, i believe.

Yep.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rock City

Sadly, I have administration blocked request sh!t on my job so can not see the pics. So much free porn viewers around...
Congrats anyway and welcome to the club!
I cleaned dirt with gasoline bought in small bottle in pharmacy. That's really a fuel with no grease stuff in so it pretty dries fretboard. Then I oiled it with Dunlop 65 (don't use it too much!), left for 24 hours, cleaned the rest off and it looked pretty well. Rosewood felt alive again. Somehow after job done, frets came up nicely itself.

Thanks. I looked up some posts here and in my guitar repair book to find that good ol' lighter fluid works for removing gunk. There were just some sticky "gunk" on the fretboard that I needed to clean off. So I did that, then re-oiled it with fretboard oil and it's great.

Rest easy - it still looks old/vintage, lol.

Dilver · 07-12-2012, 08:45 AM

Oooh. Nice axe. I always associated "clownburst" with the shades of red and yellow... as in not enough dark red, and way too yellow. Regardless, you've got a nice guitar. Are you going to keep the stock pickups? Personally, I dig the 500T in the bridge. Some say it's a one trick pony, but I think it's one hell of a trick

Fireproof · 07-12-2012, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dilver

Oooh. Nice axe. I always associated "clownburst" with the shades of red and yellow... as in not enough dark red, and way too yellow. Regardless, you've got a nice guitar. Are you going to keep the stock pickups? Personally, I dig the 500T in the bridge. Some say it's a one trick pony, but I think it's one hell of a trick

Thanks - I appreciate it.

I'm planning on leaving it stock for now. I'm just a bedroom hack and don't play in a band, so it sounds just lovely to me right now.

07-11-2012, 04:35 PM	#1 (permalink)
Fireproof Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Frisco, TX Posts: 675 Thanks: 12 Thanked 64 Times in 10 Posts	NGD - 1992 Gibson Les Paul Classic Plus Just picked this up today - found it in my local Craigslist. 20 year old guitar kept in the case most of it's life. Even had the original sales receipt bought at Dave's Guitar Shop here in Dallas for $1650. Let me know what you think. Also - What's the best way to clean the frets and nickel hardware? Not to make them pretty, because they are aged nicely, but just to get any major gunk out of the crevasses. I'll do a SEARCH, but if you have a quick tip or a link - that would be great. Here you go. Came with original brown case with pink lining. I'M IN HEAVEN. Can't wait to get some new strings on it. classic, axepilot, JCarno and 4 others like this. __________________ Gear: - '08 Gibson Les Paul Standard - '09 Gibson Les Paul Traditional Pro - '09 Epiphone Zakk Wild Bullseye LP - '06 Martin D-16R - '07 Little Martin - Marshall JMP-1C - Marshall Class 5 - Marshall DSL401 - Egnater Tweaker 15 - VOX Valvetronix VT20+ - Yamaha THR-10 Last edited by Fireproof; 07-12-2012 at 09:08 AM.

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randelli MLP Vendor Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 4,732 Thanks: 113 Thanked 142 Times in 45 Posts	Re: NGD - 1992 Gibson Les Paul Classic Plus I think you should send it to me for a closer look Fireproof and Toxicpizza72 like this. __________________ I never look at the drummer; it only encourages him ~randelli Website:www.RudeMoodAmp.com Questions:randy@rudemoodamp.com YouTube:www.youtube.com/user/RudeMoodAmp Facebook:www.facebook.com/RudeMoodAmp Twitter:www.twitter.com/@RudeMoodAmp

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axepilot Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Southern NJ Posts: 3,005 Thanks: 45 Thanked 60 Times in 11 Posts	Re: NGD - 1992 Gibson Les Paul Classic Plus Nice! You can clean the fretboard with naphtha (lighter fluid), but it doesn't really look like it needs that from what I see in the pics. You can also polish the frets - I use a Micro Mesh 4000 grit sanding pad to polish my frets. The nickel hardware has the look that a lot players lust over - worn in. I'd leave it as is. I say restring it and rock out. Fireproof likes this.

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Wagonpeddler Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 181 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: NGD - 1992 Gibson Les Paul Classic Plus Truly beautiful. Should have checked Craig's List in Dallas. Nothin' like that here. Enjoy! Hope the price was right...but if not, you got a beauty there. Fireproof likes this. __________________ 2005 Gibson ES-335 2007 SG Standard 1997 Les Paul Classic 2001 Les Paul Classic 2008 Les Paul Traditional Plus 1972 Fender Stratocaster 1967 Gretsch Tennessean 2011 Rickenbacker 660/12 1980 Guild JF-30-12 1990 Guild F65CE

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rjcampbell Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Scotland Posts: 133 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 4 Posts	Re: NGD - 1992 Gibson Les Paul Classic Plus Mother of god that's nice! :O Fireproof likes this.

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christophervolume Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: stage/studio Posts: 769 Thanks: 0 Thanked 10 Times in 6 Posts	Re: NGD - 1992 Gibson Les Paul Classic Plus very cool. i dig the earlier classics without the green inlays. play on! Fireproof likes this. __________________ www.facebook.com/the321s The 321s - Retro Rock N' Soul www.facebook.com/theblackbirdsmusic The Blackbirds - Folk/Americana www.myspace.com/heaters The Heaters - Garage Rock N' Roll

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Backstage Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Germany Posts: 2,832 Thanks: 80 Thanked 21 Times in 7 Posts	Re: NGD - 1992 Gibson Les Paul Classic Plus Very classical - happy NGD. Fireproof likes this.

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randelli MLP Vendor Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 4,732 Thanks: 113 Thanked 142 Times in 45 Posts	Re: NGD - 1992 Gibson Les Paul Classic Plus I need a 92 to complete my ensemble. I hope I find one as nice as yours - it is perfect! Nice big grain with just the right amount of flame. I like how it almost forms around the burst. I even like the offset grain and uneven color. Very organic. Seriously, look for me if you ever want to sell it!!!!! Fireproof likes this. __________________ I never look at the drummer; it only encourages him ~randelli Website:www.RudeMoodAmp.com Questions:randy@rudemoodamp.com YouTube:www.youtube.com/user/RudeMoodAmp Facebook:www.facebook.com/RudeMoodAmp Twitter:www.twitter.com/@RudeMoodAmp

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bosnialove Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Bosnia / Netherlands Posts: 1,749 Thanks: 20 Thanked 24 Times in 11 Posts	Re: NGD - 1992 Gibson Les Paul Classic Plus I don't know if this is a no go.. But.. Did you pay a lot for it? Don't like clown burst (is this one a clown burst?), but this one is so damn beautiful. __________________

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Kezman Identity Analyst Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: 43° N, 80° W Posts: 3,956 Thanks: 138 Thanked 61 Times in 21 Posts	Re: NGD - 1992 Gibson Les Paul Classic Plus Nice score Fireproof! I've been eying the classic myself, but the newer ones seem to have a green tint to the pearl inlays, not to fond of the green. Your inlays appear to be normal. Fireproof likes this.

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Bobby Mahogany Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Montréal, Qc Posts: 3,312 Thanks: 64 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: NGD - 1992 Gibson Les Paul Classic Plus Wow, wow, wow , wow! One of the very nicest! Now if you make that bridge shine, I will come over and break all your fingers. Fireproof likes this. __________________ Les Paul Standard 1992. Les Paul Custom 1978. Les Paul Special DC P-90's 1994 and a few others. Fender Super Reverb (45 watts) 1974? (converted to AB 763 circuitry). Fender Princeton Reverb (12 watts) 196? or 197? Main pedals: Boss SD-1, RAT, JD CryBaby 335. What I need: Electricity, Lozenges (if I have to sing) Dunlop 205 Jazz picks Dunlop 206 Jazz picks (I don't play Jazz I only play Jazz picks) ____________________________________________ Hey! I know what you mean, I'm just f*cking around!

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BelAir Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sweden Posts: 65 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: NGD - 1992 Gibson Les Paul Classic Plus Very nice guitar,love abr bridge look.....enjoy it.... Fireproof likes this.

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Rock City Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Novi Sad Posts: 771 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	Re: NGD - 1992 Gibson Les Paul Classic Plus Sadly, I have administration blocked request sh!t on my job so can not see the pics. So much free porn viewers around... Congrats anyway and welcome to the club! I cleaned dirt with gasoline bought in small bottle in pharmacy. That's really a fuel with no grease stuff in so it pretty dries fretboard. Then I oiled it with Dunlop 65 (don't use it too much!), left for 24 hours, cleaned the rest off and it looked pretty well. Rosewood felt alive again. Somehow after job done, frets came up nicely itself. Fireproof likes this.

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formula73 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Portsmouth, VA Posts: 1,190 Thanks: 108 Thanked 15 Times in 7 Posts	Re: NGD - 1992 Gibson Les Paul Classic Plus That thing looks absolutely fantastic. Mine's a 93...looks like that's the year they changed the inlay material to snot. Fireproof likes this. __________________ 1973 Les Paul Custom 1974 Les Paul Signature 1987 Burny RLC RR Duncan Custom Custom/59 Metaltronix M-1000 FJA mods/Killer Kab Carvin V3 Hamers, Deans, Ibanezes, KxK, Kaufman, Grecos... I even named my kid Les Paul.

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Dilver Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 158 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: NGD - 1992 Gibson Les Paul Classic Plus Oooh. Nice axe. I always associated "clownburst" with the shades of red and yellow... as in not enough dark red, and way too yellow. Regardless, you've got a nice guitar. Are you going to keep the stock pickups? Personally, I dig the 500T in the bridge. Some say it's a one trick pony, but I think it's one hell of a trick

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