Junior?

withoutasound · 05-03-2012, 07:56 AM

Im searching for my next guitar. I mostly play indie-rock, alternative but i want something versatile.
All guitars I own have humbuckers, but im starting to look at guitars with singlecoils.

I really like Les Paul Juniors but the lack of a neck pickup makes me wonder.
And I don't really like SG's.
Dont like any of the Juniors Gibson produce today, but maybe and older one would be the best bang for the buck.

Other recommendations or do you think a Les Paul Jr would do the job?

Budget: 1300$

Cheers

ed1996 · 05-03-2012, 07:59 AM

get a special! it's pretty much a junior with two pickups.

Ehsan79 · 05-03-2012, 08:06 AM

new gibson SG with P90

SFK · 05-03-2012, 08:06 AM

Get a Junior. You already have a guitar with a neck pickup.

I find Jr's very versatile with volume and tone changes.

They also are very responsive to pick attack.

$1300 gets you in the used Historic territory. That would be my choice. (it IS my choice)

I have two and wouldn't part with them.

If I want a neck PU I'll play my gold top or one of my Fenders.

My pair of reissues ( an 06 58 and an 01 57):

Pinkie · 05-03-2012, 08:19 AM

1 P-90 Jr can do it all.
My fave guitar of all time.

withoutasound · 05-03-2012, 08:34 AM

Thanks all for your inputs!

Quote:

Originally Posted by SFK

$1300 gets you in the used Historic territory. That would be my choice. (it IS my choice)

What do you mean by historic?

kdm · 05-03-2012, 08:45 AM

get a special with two pups, more versatile

SFK · 05-03-2012, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by withoutasound

Thanks all for your inputs!

What do you mean by historic?

Gibson Custom. Sorry. They used to be the "Historic" division.

The Custom Shop reissues.

withoutasound · 05-03-2012, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SFK

Gibson Custom. Sorry. They used to be the "Historic" division.

The Custom Shop reissues.

Ah I see, thank you I look out for on of those!

Knarbens · 05-03-2012, 09:10 AM

You might want to check these out.

wavedalton · 05-03-2012, 09:39 AM

Juniors are awesome and a lot more versatile than a lot of people realize. I second/third/whatever the vote for the used Custom Shop reissue. The thick neck on them is super nice and you get a one-piece body.

If you need a neck pickup, Specials are nice, though despite looking like Juniors with an extra pickup, they are extremely different animals in my opinion. Might be something you like better personally, but I'm with the guys above in thinking you might not really need it with your other guitars still in the picture.

Juniors are VERY sensitive to volume and tone knob changes, as well as your pick attack. I'm primarily an alternative/rock/blues type player, but I use mine for jazz as well. No problems and it works great. You'll need completely different amp and effect pedal settings than your humbucker guitars, though, something to bear in mind.

What don't you like about the Juniors Gibson is producing today, the fretboard material or something else?

scottyk · 05-03-2012, 10:23 AM

Don't know how many times I've said it...Juniors Rule!

MineGoes211 · 05-03-2012, 10:32 AM

The Melody Maker Special has 2 P90's and sounds like a raped ape!!

barricwiley · 05-03-2012, 10:42 AM

Can't hurt to look at the 60"s Tribute with 2xP90's.

River · 05-03-2012, 10:49 AM

You've got a lot about Juniors you don't like to be even considering one. Buy a used one you won't lose money on if you sell it, or just skip 'em.

withoutasound · 05-03-2012, 11:53 AM

The reason why I dont like the current juniors is the obeche fretboard...
And I believe the Billy Joe model has a hotter P90? Im looking for something softer.
Nothing beats that burst of the VOS one!

Naukuga · 05-03-2012, 12:00 PM

Gibson Les Paul Junior Special Electric Guitar with P-90 Pickups | GuitarCenter

$687.94 This weekend from GC after discount and tax.

2 pickups, solid mahogany body, bound neck. You'd need to get it in 1 of the 4 gloss finishes to get the coupon to apply. Gloss Yellow would be my pick

brokenarrow5 · 05-03-2012, 01:11 PM

go ahead and grab a nice older junior-- love mine!

MissoulaGriz · 05-03-2012, 02:22 PM

I love my Junior. It's hard to describe exactly what all a Junior can do but the more I play and gig with mine the less I use my other guitars. Anyway. This one isn't mine, and it is "newer" but the price looks pretty killer and it sounds like it's in great shape:

Gibson Les Paul Junior Guitar Gloss Vintage Sprague Cap P90 Pickup P-90 Gig Bag | eBay

Just a thought.

MissoulaGriz · 05-03-2012, 02:23 PM

Sorry man, I didn't realize you were in Sweden. Shipping may be a hassle for you on this one.

nutsauce · 05-03-2012, 03:54 PM

My Edwards is pretty sweet too. Not on par with my CS '57 RI, but for $750 used it is a screamin' guitar. The Fender Stratosonic is a cool double P90 guitar with a Gibson scale neck and chambered mahogany body. Also cost me $750 used.

rastus11 · 05-03-2012, 08:19 PM

buy a tele...awesome. id never be without one

Mantis · 05-03-2012, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by withoutasound

The reason why I dont like the current juniors is the obeche fretboard...
And I believe the Billy Joe model has a hotter P90? Im looking for something softer.
Nothing beats that burst of the VOS one!

i wouldn't fear that Obeche too much, feels ok to me.
you may be better off looking into a Special, seems like you want a 2 pick up guitar more than a Junior.

Malchik · 05-03-2012, 09:19 PM

I'd just get the special dude. If you're not into the minimalist gimmick, a special is a junior with a neck pickup.

Also, that new special Gibson USA is offering is a lot of bang for your buck.

marc1kim · 05-03-2012, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by withoutasound

Im searching for my next guitar. I mostly play indie-rock, alternative but i want something versatile.
All guitars I own have humbuckers, but im starting to look at guitars with singlecoils.

I really like Les Paul Juniors but the lack of a neck pickup makes me wonder.
And I don't really like SG's.
Dont like any of the Juniors Gibson produce today, but maybe and older one would be the best bang for the buck.

Other recommendations or do you think a Les Paul Jr would do the job?

Budget: 1300$

Cheers

What's there not to like of the new Juniors? I got my gloss nitro tobacco burst for $699

and it rocks!!! And dont worry about a neck pickup. Eddie Van Halen recorded a shitload of classic rock using only a bridge pickup

barricwiley · 05-04-2012, 07:29 AM

So, I have the 60's Tribute with 2 P90 pickups. If I play using only the bridge pu it will sound the same as playing a Junior? Or not? If not, why could that be please. Thanks

Neil(UK) · 05-04-2012, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barricwiley

So, I have the 60's Tribute with 2 P90 pickups. If I play using only the bridge pu it will sound the same as playing a Junior? Or not? If not, why could that be please. Thanks

Assuming you are talking about the LP tribute it won't sound the same as the body make up is different.

Jr = slab mahogany

LP = slab mahogany with arched maple cap on top.

barricwiley · 05-04-2012, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil(UK)

Assuming you are talking about the LP tribute it won't sound the same as the body make up is different.

Jr = slab mahogany

LP = slab mahogany with arched maple cap on top.

I am. It is also chambered by site details.
Thank you.

Lysol · 05-04-2012, 10:42 AM

Junior? Hell Yeah!

Johnny Alien · 05-04-2012, 11:08 AM

Is that an early 2000's Junior or a BJA with replaced guard?

05-03-2012, 07:56 AM	#1 (permalink)
withoutasound Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Sweden Posts: 35 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Junior? Im searching for my next guitar. I mostly play indie-rock, alternative but i want something versatile. All guitars I own have humbuckers, but im starting to look at guitars with singlecoils. I really like Les Paul Juniors but the lack of a neck pickup makes me wonder. And I don't really like SG's. Dont like any of the Juniors Gibson produce today, but maybe and older one would be the best bang for the buck. Other recommendations or do you think a Les Paul Jr would do the job? Budget: 1300$ Cheers

05-03-2012, 08:06 AM	#3 (permalink)
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SFK V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NW OH Posts: 5,591 Thanks: 334 Thanked 156 Times in 56 Posts	Re: Junior? Get a Junior. You already have a guitar with a neck pickup. I find Jr's very versatile with volume and tone changes. They also are very responsive to pick attack. $1300 gets you in the used Historic territory. That would be my choice. (it IS my choice) I have two and wouldn't part with them. If I want a neck PU I'll play my gold top or one of my Fenders. My pair of reissues ( an 06 58 and an 01 57): Leendrix, schaapie, Mantis and 2 others like this. __________________ MY SOUNDCLICK NOODLINGS http://www.soundclick.com/bands/defa...&content=music Last edited by SFK; 05-03-2012 at 08:56 AM.

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wavedalton Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Somerville, MA Posts: 48 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Junior? Juniors are awesome and a lot more versatile than a lot of people realize. I second/third/whatever the vote for the used Custom Shop reissue. The thick neck on them is super nice and you get a one-piece body. If you need a neck pickup, Specials are nice, though despite looking like Juniors with an extra pickup, they are extremely different animals in my opinion. Might be something you like better personally, but I'm with the guys above in thinking you might not really need it with your other guitars still in the picture. Juniors are VERY sensitive to volume and tone knob changes, as well as your pick attack. I'm primarily an alternative/rock/blues type player, but I use mine for jazz as well. No problems and it works great. You'll need completely different amp and effect pedal settings than your humbucker guitars, though, something to bear in mind. What don't you like about the Juniors Gibson is producing today, the fretboard material or something else? Mantis likes this. __________________ 2010 Gibson Custom 1957 Les Paul Junior VOS 2010 Gibson Les Paul Traditional Pro 2010 Gibson L-00 12 Fret Blues 2009 Martin MMV 2007 Fender Highway 1 Stratocaster w/Musikraft neck 2006 Fender Highway 1 Telecaster 2001 Gibson SG Special 1995 Fender Standard Stratocaster

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withoutasound Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Sweden Posts: 35 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Junior? The reason why I dont like the current juniors is the obeche fretboard... And I believe the Billy Joe model has a hotter P90? Im looking for something softer. Nothing beats that burst of the VOS one!

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Naukuga Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Utah Posts: 213 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Junior? Gibson Les Paul Junior Special Electric Guitar with P-90 Pickups \| GuitarCenter $687.94 This weekend from GC after discount and tax. 2 pickups, solid mahogany body, bound neck. You'd need to get it in 1 of the 4 gloss finishes to get the coupon to apply. Gloss Yellow would be my pick Leendrix likes this.

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MissoulaGriz Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Missoula, MT Posts: 371 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Junior? I love my Junior. It's hard to describe exactly what all a Junior can do but the more I play and gig with mine the less I use my other guitars. Anyway. This one isn't mine, and it is "newer" but the price looks pretty killer and it sounds like it's in great shape: Gibson Les Paul Junior Guitar Gloss Vintage Sprague Cap P90 Pickup P-90 Gig Bag \| eBay Just a thought.

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Malchik Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 561 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Junior? I'd just get the special dude. If you're not into the minimalist gimmick, a special is a junior with a neck pickup. Also, that new special Gibson USA is offering is a lot of bang for your buck.

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