Les Paul Forums
Homepage - Sponsors - Subscription - Auctions - Advertise - Spy  

Go Back   Les Paul Forums > The Les Paul > Gibson Les Pauls
Click to visit LuthierTalk.com   LIKE MyLesPaul on Facebook FOLLOW MyLesPaul on Twitter
  

Like Tree44Likes

Reply
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Unread 04-22-2012, 12:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: UK
Posts: 16
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Advice needed: protecting my gibson LP faded

So i just brought my first Gibson, which was a faded in satin blue because of the look, after finally acquiring it very recently, i came across a few pictures of one of my favorite guitarists, snowy white, harboring his goldtop.

I'm not a fan at all of his gold tops look now, i realized that my faded will fade (dur) but i'm totally in love with the look at the moment and would like to preserve and protect it, and would like it to keep its colour for 30+ years, is there anything i can do?

I went into a local guitar shop and they didn't have very many ideas as they said something about adding more coats would trap pockets of air and actually fade it faster -_-, they said i could have it completly stripped and refinished but that cost about the same price as i paid for the guitar....

I'm hoping some of you gurus could give me advice, i would like this guitar to be the same beauty when i pass it down to my kids, like my dads yamaha sg2000 when he passed it down to me, i do not want it losing its look, as i love it please help, many thanks Leo

Below: The closest picture i could find online of how it looks(thanks to whoevers pic im using looks almost as good as mine ), i haven't got a camera atm but i will upload my OWN pics when i get one, just so you can see why i do not want it to lose the look:

leodalion0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Les Paul

Beitrag Sponsored Links

__________________
This advertising will not be shown in this way to registered members.
Register your free account today and become a member on Les Paul Forums
   
Unread 04-22-2012, 12:40 PM   #2 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Kalamazuu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 5,126
Thanks: 3
Thanked 11 Times in 4 Posts
Re: Advice needed: protecting my gibson LP faded

With the thin satin finish I don't know if there's much at all you can do, I think the finish will where away (where your arm and hands rest) sooner than you notice any fading. Just be careful with it, and put it away when you're not using it. Just remember, even the $4000 custom shop guitars will fade over 30 years (not as much as original 50s guitars).
Just don't be afraid to play it.
Kalamazuu is online now   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-22-2012, 12:54 PM   #3 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 75
Thanks: 0
Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts
Re: Advice needed: protecting my gibson LP faded

Put it in its case and never pull it out. Ever! Unless it's completely dark.
music to my ears likes this.
Quicksilvergoat is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-22-2012, 12:55 PM   #4 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: UK
Posts: 16
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Advice needed: protecting my gibson LP faded

At the moment it's on a stand between my sg, and strat and in front of my jackson RR3, i've blacked out the room in fear for the uv light damaging my beauty. Should i be putting it in a case rather then leaving it out? tbh i haven't touched it since it dawned on me earlier that i'm wearing it down, now that i think about it, just went back to my sg unconsciously.. what a waste my hands don't really sweat at all if that helps...
leodalion0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-22-2012, 01:04 PM   #5 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
music to my ears's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 736
Thanks: 14
Thanked 29 Times in 5 Posts
Re: Advice needed: protecting my gibson LP faded

Did you crack the pickgaurd or is that just the lighting?

music to my ears is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-22-2012, 01:22 PM   #6 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: UK
Posts: 16
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Advice needed: protecting my gibson LP faded

"Below: The closest picture i could find online of how it looks(thanks to whoevers pic im using looks almost as good as mine ), i haven't got a camera atm but i will upload my OWN pics when i get one, just so you can see why i do not want it to lose the look:"

Mine is in perfect condition the picture is borrowed, to show why i don't want it to lose it's look.
leodalion0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-22-2012, 01:26 PM   #7 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Thumpalumpacus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Hill Country
Posts: 54,248
Thanks: 1,199
Thanked 687 Times in 79 Posts
Re: Advice needed: protecting my gibson LP faded

It's nitro. In 30 years, your guitar is going to have a greenish hue, as the nitro yellows. Play it when you want, and store it in its case. It's a guitar, not the Mona Lisa.
__________________
_____________________________________________

My Soundcloud
Thumpalumpacus is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-22-2012, 01:31 PM   #8 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
music to my ears's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 736
Thanks: 14
Thanked 29 Times in 5 Posts
Re: Advice needed: protecting my gibson LP faded

Quote:
Originally Posted by leodalion0 View Post
"Below: The closest picture i could find online of how it looks(thanks to whoevers pic im using looks almost as good as mine ), i haven't got a camera atm but i will upload my OWN pics when i get one, just so you can see why i do not want it to lose the look:"

Mine is in perfect condition the picture is borrowed, to show why i don't want it to lose it's look.
got it.
music to my ears is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-22-2012, 01:34 PM   #9 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
axepilot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Southern NJ
Posts: 3,005
Thanks: 45
Thanked 60 Times in 11 Posts
Re: Advice needed: protecting my gibson LP faded

Quote:
Originally Posted by leodalion0 View Post
At the moment it's on a stand between my sg, and strat and in front of my jackson RR3, i've blacked out the room in fear for the uv light damaging my beauty. Should i be putting it in a case rather then leaving it out? tbh i haven't touched it since it dawned on me earlier that i'm wearing it down, now that i think about it, just went back to my sg unconsciously.. what a waste my hands don't really sweat at all if that helps...
You have to kidding me.................

No offense, but that guitar was built to be played, not shielded from UV light and babied to the point of not being touched. It's not a museum piece, it's a guitar.

Just PLAY IT!

The finish will wear, the guitar will collect dings, but you will have the fun as the player putting the miles and many joyous notes on the guitar. Anything else is a dis-service to the instrument.
axepilot is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-22-2012, 01:40 PM   #10 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: UK
Posts: 16
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Advice needed: protecting my gibson LP faded

@axepilot yeah i know i know :> is there anything you know that can help preserve it though, i now know how it feels to be randy rhoads desperately trying to preserve my les paul
leodalion0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-22-2012, 01:44 PM   #11 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
RichBrew's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Dorsetshire (UK)
Posts: 1,743
Thanks: 125
Thanked 12 Times in 5 Posts
Re: Advice needed: protecting my gibson LP faded

You have no chance whatsoever of keeping the guitar looking like it is at present until at least 2042 if you play it.

I also refer you to post #7.

RichBrew
Thumpalumpacus likes this.
RichBrew is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-22-2012, 01:47 PM   #12 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Mr Teeny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Kent UK
Posts: 1,841
Thanks: 20
Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post
Re: Advice needed: protecting my gibson LP faded

Just forget about it and play it or buy another and leave it in the case. Lets face it, 30 years from now you'd have to hope your kids will have higher expectations than getting a 30 year old studio from their old man.
Mr Teeny is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-22-2012, 01:48 PM   #13 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Canada
Posts: 523
Thanks: 0
Thanked 11 Times in 5 Posts
Re: Advice needed: protecting my gibson LP faded

A little late for April fools ain't it?
Lowdown likes this.
__________________
2012 Gibson Classic Custom Ebony
2009 Gibson '08 Standard Brimstone Burst
2008 Fender Standard Strat
Marshall JCM 2000 DSL 50
Marshall JCM 900 lead 1960
Blackheart Handsome Devil
Voltage cab 1x12
WinterOrb is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-22-2012, 01:52 PM   #14 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
strat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Coventry RI
Posts: 467
Thanks: 1
Thanked 11 Times in 6 Posts
Re: Advice needed: protecting my gibson LP faded

Ehhh you won't notice, and then one day you'll look at it and go shit. the damn things green lmao
__________________
Yeah, I'm an idiot.
strat is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-22-2012, 01:52 PM   #15 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: UK
Posts: 16
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Advice needed: protecting my gibson LP faded

i don't want a green/yellow lp :< so yeah question still stands if anyone can help with advice on how to preserve the thing.. would be very greatful
leodalion0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-22-2012, 01:54 PM   #16 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
axepilot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Southern NJ
Posts: 3,005
Thanks: 45
Thanked 60 Times in 11 Posts
Re: Advice needed: protecting my gibson LP faded

Quote:
Originally Posted by leodalion0 View Post
@axepilot yeah i know i know :> is there anything you know that can help preserve it though, i now know how it feels to be randy rhoads desperately trying to preserve my les paul
I understand you wanting to keep your guitar in great shape.

Just wipe the guitar down when you're done playing. You are never going to keep the guitar in pristine condition unless you seal it in a glass case. The dings and wear are signs of a well loved guitar.

If you can't accept this, then I suggest you sell the guitar and buy something you will be willing to actually play.
axepilot is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-22-2012, 01:56 PM   #17 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
SvdH's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 402
Thanks: 2
Thanked 8 Times in 4 Posts
Re: Advice needed: protecting my gibson LP faded

Quote:
Originally Posted by leodalion0 View Post
i don't want a green/yellow lp :< so yeah question still stands if anyone can help with advice on how to preserve the thing.. would be very greatful
Sell it -> buy a blue Epiphone -> store it in it's case for 40 years...


__________________
2010 Gibson Les Paul Studio Faded Worn Brown
1994 Epiphone Les Paul Birdseye
Squier Classic Vibe 50's Strat
SvdH is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-22-2012, 02:01 PM   #18 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
gtimach1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 749
Thanks: 0
Thanked 7 Times in 2 Posts
Re: Advice needed: protecting my gibson LP faded

My white Custom has lost a bit of that pure white over the year(slight yellowing), but it still looks great and I've been enjoying the heck out of it.

Somebody getting that guitar in 30 years may not care at all about any fading. Imagine going through all the trouble to preserve it and finding out it wasn't really that big a deal.
__________________
PRS Custom 22, Gibson LP Custom & Gibson LP Studio
Gibson LP Traditional , Gibson LP Traditional MS
Gibson SG & Flying V, Fender Am.St. Tele & Strat
Rickenbacker 360/12 , 360v64, 350v63
G&L Legacy & ASAT "Bluesboy (All Lefties)

Amps:Mesa Mini Rectifier 25 Head & Mesa 1x12 cabs,
Vox AC15C1
, Roland Cube 30X, Mesa TA-15 Head
Marshall DSL401,Fender Blues Jr. ,
gtimach1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-22-2012, 02:01 PM   #19 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: UK
Posts: 16
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Advice needed: protecting my gibson LP faded

yeah i can accept it just want to slow down the process if possible, to try and maintain the gorgeous look at well as tone.

@SvdH then ill have a worse guitar and i don't get to play it at all that's completely not helping me preserve my gibson
leodalion0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-22-2012, 02:02 PM   #20 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: UK
Posts: 16
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Advice needed: protecting my gibson LP faded

@gtimach1 yeah i guess, but i love the look atm, and have you seen snowy whites? :/ don't want anything like that
leodalion0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-22-2012, 02:14 PM   #21 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Thumpalumpacus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Hill Country
Posts: 54,248
Thanks: 1,199
Thanked 687 Times in 79 Posts
Re: Advice needed: protecting my gibson LP faded

Quote:
Originally Posted by leodalion0 View Post
i don't want a green/yellow lp :< so yeah question still stands if anyone can help with advice on how to preserve the thing.. would be very greatful
Well, you're fresh outta luck, then. Nitro yellows. If you don't want that happening, get it refinned in poly.
strat likes this.
__________________
_____________________________________________

My Soundcloud
Thumpalumpacus is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-22-2012, 02:17 PM   #22 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
bufbills's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 3,404
Thanks: 14
Thanked 30 Times in 12 Posts
Re: Advice needed: protecting my gibson LP faded

If you play it, it is certain to show wear. No offense, but I if a scratch or wear is going to bother you on a faded finish, what are you going to do if you get Standard or any other higher end Les Paul for that matter? Play your guitar and enjoy it. I have an old Studio that I was going to refinish, and recently while looking it over, I noticed that Ive finally started wearing through the finish and can see Maple. Mojo!!! No refin for her! My son is going to love that someday.
__________________
God rides a Harley, and Plays a Les Paul




bufbills is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-22-2012, 02:19 PM   #23 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
colchar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: The Great White North
Posts: 19,497
Thanks: 157
Thanked 453 Times in 157 Posts
Re: Advice needed: protecting my gibson LP faded

Quote:
Originally Posted by leodalion0 View Post
At the moment it's on a stand between my sg, and strat and in front of my jackson RR3, i've blacked out the room in fear for the uv light damaging my beauty. Should i be putting it in a case rather then leaving it out? tbh i haven't touched it since it dawned on me earlier that i'm wearing it down, now that i think about it, just went back to my sg unconsciously.. what a waste my hands don't really sweat at all if that helps...

Going a little overboard aren't you? If you want it to stay pristine leave it in its case and never take it out. If you bought it to play it then do so. Giving it a good polish might help keep the finish for longer but, other than leaving it in its case forever, I don't think there is much you can do.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by ltdave32
We don't ring up three cherries on the MLP slot machine every Friday night, but dammit, when it hits, it's friggin' jackpot.

--------------------------------------------------------
"All of Chuck's children are out there playing his licks"
--------------------------------------------------------

colchar is online now   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-22-2012, 02:27 PM   #24 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: UK
Posts: 16
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Advice needed: protecting my gibson LP faded

Quote:
Originally Posted by bufbills View Post
If you play it, it is certain to show wear. No offense, but I if a scratch or wear is going to bother you on a faded finish, what are you going to do if you get Standard or any other higher end Les Paul for that matter? Play your guitar and enjoy it. I have an old Studio that I was going to refinish, and recently while looking it over, I noticed that Ive finally started wearing through the finish and can see Maple. Mojo!!! No refin for her! My son is going to love that someday.
why were you going to refinish it and how? what would you do? why would you not finish it now you've warn through the finish?
leodalion0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-22-2012, 02:28 PM   #25 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: UK
Posts: 16
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Advice needed: protecting my gibson LP faded

Quote:
Originally Posted by colchar View Post
Going a little overboard aren't you? If you want it to stay pristine leave it in its case and never take it out. If you bought it to play it then do so. Giving it a good polish might help keep the finish for longer but, other than leaving it in its case forever, I don't think there is much you can do.
what type of polish and how would this help, thanks for the advice =]
leodalion0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-22-2012, 02:29 PM   #26 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
bufbills's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 3,404
Thanks: 14
Thanked 30 Times in 12 Posts
Re: Advice needed: protecting my gibson LP faded

Quote:
Originally Posted by leodalion0 View Post
why were you going to refinish it and how? what would you do? why would you not finish it now you've warn through the finish?
because I gave it some mojo playing the piss out of it!

This is a faded that I did refinish.

Thumpalumpacus likes this.
__________________
God rides a Harley, and Plays a Les Paul




bufbills is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-22-2012, 02:35 PM   #27 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: UK
Posts: 16
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Advice needed: protecting my gibson LP faded

wow that looks lovely, and like it would last a few years, that was really a faded? teach me how has it affected the tone at all?
leodalion0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-22-2012, 02:39 PM   #28 (permalink)
.
 
MeKevin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Rhine Ordnance Barracks
Posts: 2,138
Thanks: 111
Thanked 12 Times in 9 Posts
Re: Advice needed: protecting my gibson LP faded

OP is still under the delusion that this is going to be his only LP? Good luck buddy, in a few years, you will have a new number one.

Really though, I can't imagine the actual color of it fading too much. The nitro might yellow a little bit, but I don't think enough to really turn reallly green. Maybe a green hue.

You gotta play it though. It might wear slightly, prob not too much. The nitro won't yellow near as much as the old goldtops. I think in 2006 or something, they added even more plastic to the nitro, so if you keep it clean, it might not wear away. EVEN if it does, I think you will be more happy with the results than you think. You gotta play it though. Only other option is sell it.
__________________
.

Quote:
Originally Posted by River View Post
But it's not worth the effort. I'd be preaching to the choir on one hand, pissing up a rope on the other.
"I'm gonna get out of here now, let the horn man come in."
MeKevin is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-22-2012, 02:39 PM   #29 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
LuisPaul's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Heaven
Posts: 176
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Send a message via ICQ to LuisPaul
Re: Advice needed: protecting my gibson LP faded

If you dont want to loose the color, refinish the guitar with Poly, it will last forever...
colchar and Thumpalumpacus like this.
LuisPaul is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-22-2012, 02:44 PM   #30 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
bufbills's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 3,404
Thanks: 14
Thanked 30 Times in 12 Posts
Re: Advice needed: protecting my gibson LP faded

Yes it was a faded. Its going to wear as its played. Its nitro. And as to changing the tone, Im not sure, because if I remember right, I put the duncans in when I put it back together. I cant remember now. Go over to luthiers section and start reading the refin threads. Thats where I learned to do it. That said, I wouldn't refinish yours. The blue looks cool.
__________________
God rides a Harley, and Plays a Les Paul




bufbills is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:05 PM.


LIKE MyLesPaul on Facebook   FOLLOW MyLesPaul on Twitter

Our Network: Luthier Forum | SG Guitar Forum | Marshall Amp Forum | Music Gear Forum | 7 String Guitar Forum | Acoustic Guitar Forum

MyLesPaul proudly supports St. Jude Children's Research Hospital

Copyright © 2006-2013, MyLesPaul.com. All Rights Reserved.