Got some Loxx Strap Locks. (a small review)

[StLouisBluezz]

I took the screw off the bottom of my Gibson LP and went to Guitar Center to compare it with the diameter of the Loxx screw. The Loxx screw was a hair smaller and had a different thread on it. I played around with the locking mechanizm, it was hard to pull off and when the top piece is not centered with screw in piece (like it would be if you were wearing your guitar) it is very very difficult to make it release, so I got them. They were actually 3 dollars cheaper at the store than online, a Guitar Center first for me.
When I got home and screwed them in it was a tight fit, no need for toothpicks or glue. I put the locks on the strap. This may be hard to do if you love your strap and don't want to make the holes a little bigger.(Don't lose the tool they come with or removing the clasps may be challenging.)
I put it all together, put the guitar on and went through some tests to see if it would snag off or what I thought it would take to make the lock fail.
This system passed with what I would be willing to do while wearing what I consider to be a very expensive guitar- strap locks or not.
BUT always consider the law of physics that says whatever can go wrong will eventually go wrong.... or something like that

and they look good too

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[Phalaris]

We don't have a Guitar Center here in Anchorage, Alaska. But I wanted to get some strap locks for my B.C. Rich Warlock (One of the buttons is in a really odd location). The shops were I bought my locks from, don't carry the Loxx. They did have Hennessey, and some other ones. The other brand I didn't really like, as they didn't seem secure to me. I wish I could remember their name though. I did like the Hennessey Strap Locks. They lock in a very similar fashion to the Loxx you show in the video. When I take my Les Paul in for setup, I'll buy another set of locks her her as well.

Phalaris

[nooneimportant]

Not for nothing, but I don't really like the "easy on, easy off" slogan. I mean, I get it, but I'd much rather buy strap locks from them if it was "easy on, this shit will never let go".

Also, I like how he kinda just leaves them finger tight, and hardly uses the little tool thing. It seems like they'll rip right out...

I'm sure they're good locks, but that video was a foul ball.

[jonas335]

I've tried most of these locks and not been happy with them. They seem like a complicated solution to a simple problem. I've been using Jim Dunlop plastic strap locks for 20 years with no problems...

[nauc]

pass. i like the fact that Schallers are U shaped, so even if they do unlock, the guitar still may not fall to the ground

[StLouisBluezz]

The video makes everything look easier for the professional hand model than it really is. These are the first strap locks I've played with and I'm kind of a nuts and bolts guy and I would recommend them as long as you're not danceng around.
Ya, easy off is a bad choice for a slogan, sounds like a bad translation or bad marketing team.
If you live by a Guitar Mart I would say check them out and if you don't like em take em back. I paid less than 20 for them.

[Kalamazuu]

I remember seeing these awhile ago, they look interesting, almost like a cross between Dunlop and Schaller. Although I don't think they'd be something I'd seek out. But I'm pretty neutral on the topic, I have dunlops and schallers, both seem plenty solid.

[brokenarrow5]

schallers rule, just do it!!!!

[Kerry_King]

Hey guys, I just wanted to chime in and let you know that I am the contact at LOXX if you have any questions or concerns. I work for Get'm Get'm, which is the exclusive USA distributor of LOXX. I wanted to let you know that it is noted about the slogan, haha! The German manufacturer made the video, so I would say it was just a translation thing.

And, of course the guy was just demonstrating how to install these. I don't think it's necessary to crank on them in the demo, but thanks for the feedback.

The design looks a bit like others on the market, but it's really nothing like them. These fasteners were invented in the 1920's for the automotive/marine industries, and have sold over 100 million sets!


Please take a moment to look at Home - LOXX USA. We have a history/products/and comparison page with lots of information. Let me know if you have any questions about them!

[jfwund]

I bought some Dunlops at Guitar Center last weekend, and they were really pushing these Loxx buttons. I mean REALLY pushing them, to the point where I almost walked out without buying anything. The sales guy had a set in his pocket that he pulled out and insisted on demonstrating before he would get the Dunlops off the wall. As he was ringing up the Dunlops, he was saying "you should get the Loxx instead" etc. Irritating, and I got the sense that these were a Guitar Center brand (like acoustic amps, etc.) as a result. They do look interesting, although they wouldn't work for the way that I use straplocks, as there doesn't seem to be an existing strap button to lock into. Good to know it's not another GC house brand.

[Kerry_King]

Originally Posted by jfwund

I bought some Dunlops at Guitar Center last weekend, and they were really pushing these Loxx buttons. I mean REALLY pushing them, to the point where I almost walked out without buying anything. The sales guy had a set in his pocket that he pulled out and insisted on demonstrating before he would get the Dunlops off the wall. As he was ringing up the Dunlops, he was saying "you should get the Loxx instead" etc. Irritating, and I got the sense that these were a Guitar Center brand (like acoustic amps, etc.) as a result. They do look interesting, although they wouldn't work for the way that I use straplocks, as there doesn't seem to be an existing strap button to lock into. Good to know it's not another GC house brand.

Heh, no we don't tell them to do that. Which store/area was this? I guess I'm glad that the salesperson is so enthusiastic though.

We sell a screw set that includes 3 pairs of LOXX. One of which has regular strap grooves.



^ That was the original design, but the addition makes it so LOXX are not low profile any more. They are still available if you want them.

[Xavier_32]

I have no idea why it took this long for anyone to say it, but I'm still an advocate of Grolsch rubber washers.



Your strap won't go anywhere.

[ed1996]

The problem with the loxx ones is that you can't use straps that don't have the lock on them.
Most strap locks you can still use any strap as well as one with the lock on it.

[HDS]

Will have to pick up some LOXX locks and give them a go.

[Kerry_King]

Originally Posted by ed1996

The problem with the loxx ones is that you can't use straps that don't have the lock on them.
Most strap locks you can still use any strap as well as one with the lock on it.

Ed, I addressed this directly in the last post, and included a picture. The original design included the strap groove and the LOXX pin, but it ended up making the LOXX stick out just as much as anything else on the market. Without the extra grooves LOXX are very low profile and they keep your guitar strap close to the body of the guitar. This reduces the stress on the screws themselves.

We offer a screw set that includes a pair of buttons that have a strap groove if you think you will need it.

[drew365]

I have the Loxx on two guitars and Schallers on one. I like the Loxx better and may end up changing out the Shallers so I can swap all of my straps between all guitars.
If you don't pay attention to what you're doing, then no strap lock can stop you from damaging your guitar. Doesn't matter what brand, there's no guarantee against being a clutz. I'm King Clutz in case anyone wonders.

[nauc]

Originally Posted by drew365

I have the Loxx on two guitars and Schallers on one. I like the Loxx better and may end up changing out the Shallers so I can swap all of my straps between all guitars.
If you don't pay attention to what you're doing, then no strap lock can stop you from damaging your guitar. Doesn't matter what brand, there's no guarantee against being a clutz. I'm King Clutz in case anyone wonders.

i agree about not being careful can lead to problems, but just the design of the Schallers seems better.

you pull the knob on both to unlock them, but the Schallers still hold the guitar (for the most part) since its U shaped

i dont understand why anyone would risk a Les Paul to try something new, esp if the design doesnt seem as good

tho ive been known to be wrong.. once jk

[Kerry_King]

Originally Posted by nauc

i agree about not being careful can lead to problems, but just the design of the Schallers seems better.

you pull the knob on both to unlock them, but the Schallers still hold the guitar (for the most part) since its U shaped

i dont understand why anyone would risk a Les Paul to try something new, esp if the design doesnt seem as good

tho ive been known to be wrong.. once jk

Check this out: http://www.loxxusa.com/product-comparison

This shows the specifics between the two. Picture 5 on the comparison shows how small the Schaller locking pin is and why the horseshoe mechanism is basically necessary for their design.

[nauc]

Originally Posted by Kerry_King

Check this out: Product Comparison - LOXX USA

This shows the specifics between the two. Picture 5 on the comparison shows how small the Schaller locking pin is and why the horseshoe mechanism is basically necessary for their design.

based on the 2nd pic below, one could argue the LOXX head is much bigger and doesnt taper as much, causing it to hang up on things easier, while the Schaller head is smaller and much smoother

and the all the sharp teeth on the built in washer, sodaspeak, could wear a bigger hole in the strap, causing failure that way

[Kalamazuu]

Interesting, definitely seems like a good design. And while people here keep pushing the Grolsch washers, while it's rock solid, some people like to be able to take the strap off the guitar. But overall I feel that there is too much of a war going on about straplocks, most are designed fairly well, at least well enough for normal use and then some.

[Kerry_King]

Originally Posted by nauc

based on the 2nd pic below, one could argue the LOXX head is much bigger and doesnt taper as much, causing it to hang up on things easier, while the Schaller head is smaller and much smoother

and the all the sharp teeth on the built in washer, sodaspeak, could wear a bigger hole in the strap, causing failure that way

The teeth aren't deep enough to make a hole in your strap. Unless your leather is super thin, in which case you probably should get a better strap.

These were designed to be put onto convertable tops and boat canvas, which means they get fastened to the canvas directly, and then they are driven around in all kinds of winds and weathers. There is little risk of them tearing through your strap leather.

The LOXX head in the pic is much bigger in diameter, but you can not take it off by pulling from one side. You have to grab it from both sides and pull evenly. I have tried extensively to unfasten my LOXX button from my guitar by pulling one side and it does not happen.

Smaller LOXX pins exist, but I don't think they're necessary for guitar.

[HDS]

Installed a set of Loxx locks tonight. The pin that the lock grasps isn't very big. I dont know what its made out of but worry is that is could snapping off. Second is the locks top or pull, it wouldn't take much for something to catch and pull it unlocking the system. Lastly, there is a bit more play in the locking system then a Schaller.

[Lysol]

Schaller FTW!!!

[RedSkwirrell]

I've used these on all my guitars for thirty years.
They cost.., the price of a bottle of beer.
Or you could buy them as loose rubber washers for tuppence.
Just sayin'.

[drew365]

Chevy!! Oh, wrong thread.

[nauc]

Originally Posted by RedSkwirrell

I've used these on all my guitars for thirty years.
They cost.., the price of a bottle of beer.
Or you could buy them as loose rubber washers for tuppence.
Just sayin'.

my only concern, is my sweat. it eats thru all my chrome hardware, so im guessing it would eat up the washers pretty fast too

tho, im probably wrong, and everyone heres gonna tell me

[RedSkwirrell]

Originally Posted by nauc

my only concern, is my sweat.

I'm a 52 year old fat bloke.
I got more sweat than skin.
These things have never perished on me.
I only ever had one problem with 'em (which was my own stupid skwirrell-brained fault).
Luckily I woke up in time and there was a happy ending.

[Kerry_King]

Originally Posted by HDS

Installed a set of Loxx locks tonight. The pin that the lock grasps isn't very big. I dont know what its made out of but worry is that is could snapping off. Second is the locks top or pull, it wouldn't take much for something to catch and pull it unlocking the system. Lastly, there is a bit more play in the locking system then a Schaller.

The pin is small but very very secure. And also you can't catch one edge and unfasten them. I have a strap right here with LOXX and I am trying to catch it on things (the edge of the table, etc..) It will not come undone unless you intentionally pull. Pulling from one side doesn't unfasten it.

[HDS]

Anyway they can tighten up the cam to remove some of the slop?

[roadhog96]

Originally Posted by Kerry_King

Hey guys, I just wanted to chime in and let you know that I am the contact at LOXX if you have any questions or concerns. I work for Get'm Get'm, which is the exclusive USA distributor of LOXX. I wanted to let you know that it is noted about the slogan, haha! The German manufacturer made the video, so I would say it was just a translation thing.

And, of course the guy was just demonstrating how to install these. I don't think it's necessary to crank on them in the demo, but thanks for the feedback.

The design looks a bit like others on the market, but it's really nothing like them. These fasteners were invented in the 1920's for the automotive/marine industries, and have sold over 100 million sets!


Please take a moment to look at Home - LOXX USA. We have a history/products/and comparison page with lots of information. Let me know if you have any questions about them!

Seeing how your the USA distributor why don't you put in a request/suggestion to the manufacture to make these strap locks with the same thread and diameter screw that Gibson uses. THIS IS WHAT EVERYONE WANTS! The screw that Gibson uses has been an issue for a long time. Everyone has to use glue, toothpicks, grind down the head of the stock screw, etc. Someone needs to address this issue. If you can buy a good quality strap lock that uses the exact same screw to fit a Gibson without having to make modifications to it then you would have a winner.