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Unread 03-02-2012, 09:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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2008 Les Paul Traditional Plus vs. '74 Deluxe

Working on a possible trade with a Craigslist guy. He's been very nice, and seems like a good guy (several e-mails, he's a real person, with real local info)(what I'm trying to say is he's not shady, and I don't think he's up to shenanigans).

I have a 1974 Deluxe. He has a 2008 Standard Plus. He sent pics, and the guitar has a pickguard, speed knobs, and no Grover locking tuners. Did 2008 Standards come with Klusons?

I don't think he's trying to pass off a fake, I'm just trying to figure out what model this is.
EDITED TO ADD: We now know it's a "Traditional". I updated the title of the thread.

His pics (partial serial number has been obscured by me, along with some identifying stickers on the case)






What I'm thinking of trading:

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Unread 03-02-2012, 11:16 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: 2008 Les Paul Standard Plus vs. '74 Deluxe

I say do it. I have no other reason other than I think its beautiful!

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Re: 2008 Les Paul Standard Plus vs. '74 Deluxe

Don't do it!
You will regret it later!
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Re: 2008 Les Paul Standard Plus vs. '74 Deluxe

Don't trade. They don't make 'em like they used to. You are going to trade down. That 2008 looks more like a Traditional with the speed knobs and Klusons.
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Re: 2008 Les Paul Standard Plus vs. '74 Deluxe

Well, I think all the 08 Std+ guitars came with locking tuners and top hats. Mine doesnt have speed knobs, has grover locking tuners, stupid locking jack, and all the other stuff listed on gibbys website. Unless he's done.some changing to it. If you REALLY like it more than yours, go for it.
I personally wouldn't, but I like old stuff. And I was born in 74, so I'm sure I could get my head to make that seem special to me.
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Re: 2008 Les Paul Standard Plus vs. '74 Deluxe

Yeah - the Standard does look pretty, blabla. . .

BUT: You've got a stunning 74!!! --> DON'T TRADE!!!

Maybe you want to try and put some aged pup-covers on just have a different impression of your guitar. . . other than that: keep your LP: she's amazing!
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Re: 2008 Les Paul Standard Plus vs. '74 Deluxe

No way I would make that trade. Your 74 is beautiful.

We can't make the decision for you though. The 08 just might be "your" guitar
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Re: 2008 Les Paul Standard Plus vs. '74 Deluxe

You serious???????

Dude, you got A KILLER GUITAR!
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Re: 2008 Les Paul Standard Plus vs. '74 Deluxe

Is there a reason you're considering trading your '74 in the first place? Both guitars are in the same neck of the woods value wise, so this decision is going to come down to weather or not you're happy with your current guitar. If yes, no trade. If not, trade away and don't look back. Best of luck.
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Re: 2008 Les Paul Standard Plus vs. '74 Deluxe

i'd trade it in a heartbeat.
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Re: 2008 Les Paul Standard Plus vs. '74 Deluxe

I could be wrong, but I think the early 2008 standards before the "08 standards" were chambered without all the locking bling if that makes sense. If that isn't chambered it's some sort of traditional.

I don't think I would trade something out of production for something in production.
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Re: 2008 Les Paul Standard Plus vs. '74 Deluxe

I'm biased to older wood.
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Re: 2008 Les Paul Standard Plus vs. '74 Deluxe

I'd seriously not trade that 74 away. Don't do it!
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Re: 2008 Les Paul Standard Plus vs. '74 Deluxe

When you got the best reject the rest
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Re: 2008 Les Paul Standard Plus vs. '74 Deluxe

I own a 2011 '08 Standard and it will be mine for many years to come. With that said, please hang on to your guitar!
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Re: 2008 Les Paul Standard Plus vs. '74 Deluxe

Well, if you're considering the trade there is probably a reason. If there is something about the 74 that's getting in the way of you really bonding with it, then why keep it? If you're doing it just because you're bored and you want to do new things, then I'd really try to talk you out of it.

What pickups are in your 74? If they are early Dimarzios or even T-Tops or Shaws (depending when it was converted), I would insist on swapping the pickups.
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Re: 2008 Les Paul Standard Plus vs. '74 Deluxe

Thanks for all the replies! You guys are right, this IS a Traditional, not Standard. Differences listed here:
Product Reviews: Hands-On Review: Gibson Les Paul Traditional and 2008 Les Paul Standard | Musician's Friend

The 1974 is a NICE guitar. The things I don't care for are the thin neck (YES, Gibson LPs have thin necks. ALL of them (IMO)), and the low frets.

The 2008 has a 50s neck, which may be thicker.

Mine does have an original 70s Dimarzio "PAF", and an old no-name pickup in the bridge.

The seller has told me his 2008 has Sheptone replacement pickups. Also in his deal (this was not a straight-trade) is a 1996 MIA Fender Hot Rod Deville.

One of the funny things about why I want to check out his guitar... a lot of people (like me) are drawn to some guitars because they are played by our guitar heros. My 1974 is "early KISS",
but the 2008 is played by my current guitar influence, Marty Schwartz:

I'm hoping to at least check it out and compare. Thanks to all of you for the help!
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Re: 2008 Les Paul Standard Plus vs. '74 Deluxe

The serial number should have alerted you in the first instance. 358 is the last week of 2008, and if it was a Standard it would have had all the 2008 Standard appointments that others have mentioned, viz. Grover locking tuners, neutrik jack socket, locking bridge & tailpiece, asymetrical neck, NOT speed knobs, PCB in the control cavity and see-through cavity plate. As someone else has said, unless a lot has been swapped out, that would not be a 2008 Standard from the last week of the year.
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Re: 2008 Les Paul Standard Plus vs. '74 Deluxe

Don't do it, just don't do it...
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Re: 2008 Les Paul Standard Plus vs. '74 Deluxe

That is a two piece top on the deluxe too, isn't it? Never in a million years would I trade that deluxe.
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Re: 2008 Les Paul Standard Plus vs. '74 Deluxe

No wonder he's being a nice guy... he gets the better part!
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Re: 2008 Les Paul Standard Plus vs. '74 Deluxe

I have a 2008 and I love it but I would never do that trade if I were you. Buy an 08 if you want one.
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Re: 2008 Les Paul Traditional Plus vs. '74 Deluxe

Don't do it
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Re: 2008 Les Paul Traditional Plus vs. '74 Deluxe

I wouldn't do it unless he's willing to include another $1000.00, and even then, it would depend on how well the 74 plays and sounds vs the 08.

It will be easy to get an 08 Standard, but very difficult to find a nice 74 Deluxe unless you have some serious dollars to spend.

Keep the 74 man
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I'm sensing a trend that says...... keep the '74. Thanks, guys!
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Re: 2008 Les Paul Traditional Plus vs. '74 Deluxe

Honestly dude...keep the vintage 'Paul!!

As much as I love my 2011 Traditional Plus, they're not that difficult to replace.

A choice 1974 Deluxe AS NICE AS YOURS...IS!

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Re: 2008 Les Paul Traditional Plus vs. '74 Deluxe

I would do it and never look back.
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I'm not going to trade. Thank you to everyone for your input.
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I'm not going to trade. Thank you to everyone for your input.
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